Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[boulderblundermatt90]

At this point, REEEE-ial and Co have reached Smollett status.

The pettiness is the least of our concerns.

The real issue is the tainted overreach between all these companies -- I could give less of a fuck what another writer says, but the directors need to do their fucking job and tell them to drop the bullshit and focus on the quality of the work for the job.

if it was another company, there'd be hope. but RT exclusively gives their writers so much creative freedom.

they would literally be allowed to kill off Qrow because they can't stand the guy because he said "this line is bad".

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

Or RT has a change of heart and brings him back.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here because it sucks that he loses a relatively notable character.

In the world of SocJus, you cannot rebuild a burned bridge -- if you do, you're incommunicado and the next target on the list for defying the dogma.

if it was another company, there'd be hope. but RT exclusively gives their writers so much creative freedom.

they would literally be allowed to kill off Qrow because they can't stand the guy because he said "this line is bad".

I have expectations that they know if they act like salty bitches about this, they'll get reamed harder.

But that depends on if Ty wants to get down right petty and if Vic will let him.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

Or RT has a change of heart and brings him back.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here because it sucks that he loses a relatively notable character.

even if he got it back, the writers would go full mad god kefka on Qrow to try and get rid of him.

 

[Captain Manning]

I don't see Vic demanding the Funimation and Rooster Teeth rehire him as realistic in any sort of settlement.

It could happen, if the alternative were way worse, and more expensive.

It's true it wouldn't be what Vic would ask for. It would be the unstated but understood alternative to what Vic is asking for.

I think if this goes completely pear shaped for Funimation, there will be more firings though.

 

[Not A Bug]

oh shit just saw the lawsuit thread, hopefully rick nekeita has some hot takes tonight im super bored

That's the problem with this kind of autistic and salacious torrent of juicy story after juicy story. A momentary pause and you find yourself in the corner, diaphoretic and having chills from withdrawals.

What event does "this" refer to? Did Vic relocate to Texas for reasons related to the potential lawsuit, or is it just a coincidence? If the former, is that a normal thing for a civil plaintiff to do?

I'd guess it's because his big movie just dropped and the other studio(s) he was working with are in Texas. For all intents and purposes, it was looking like that side of his career was taking off and the future would be in Texas. Production meetings, scrip readings and on.

It’s probably filed in either Dallas or whatever jurisdiction Tyler, where the BHBH main offices are. Which I think sits halfway between Dallas and Houston.

To the East, about halfway between Dallas and Shreveport, LA.

Vic would have been shown the investigation for legal reasons.
Kinda curious if he could show it to a lawyer anyways because of poor investigation or would have to wait tell the contract states the duration for.

Two ways, attorney/client privilege ensures information shared is not public disclosure. Any doubts and once they file, they subpoena the unknown information their client said existed. Legal proceedings nullify all sorts of "protections".

She's not only not denying it, she admitted it's real and keeps trying to argue how it was harassment and seems to be shocked as to why nobody is taking it seriously

One of the tests to make SH actionable is whether the "subject" knows that it's a problem. So if it's not an obvious example, they need to have been told by the offended party. Also, an "off color" joke, especially if the playful banter was already going on, in a panel wouldn't pass any kind of discrimination litmus tests.

 

[JungAtHart]

My mind keeps going back to the Anime Outsiders guy that has been on Nicks streams a couple times. Claimed he talked with Vic one on one at a con after he lawyered up and that Vic told him that he asked one of his detractors (the guy wouldnt name names, people in the chat were speculating either Schemmel or DC Douglas) what his problem with him was and that this person told him that he basically projects his dad onto Vic after being brought up in a conservative Christian household.

I had kinda speculated it before but yeah i think there is credence to the idea that a lot of these SJW hate mob types project their own family issues and insecurities onto their chosen targets. Makes sense, maybe they think theyre making right and correcting wrongs that were done to them, posdibly even saving face from their own behavior, now that they are fighting these battles and becoming advocates.

A variant of classic projection. Schemmel's situation I know less about, but Douglas' is basically burned into his lifestyle. He lives purely as a contrarian to his family's lifestyle. All of the issues in his life are always blamed on those that he feels are most like his family. He even LOOKS for targets to blame for his problems. His 'crazy sex, crazy drugs' as solution to everything mentality, which causes him to get in trouble for insane and indecent stuff, is always the fault of someone else. That goes for his politics too. The thing with him getting fired from Geico is a peculiar example, because its something some of us might stand by him with. He had to go and be exceptional about it and get even angrier at people for reacting to him. He's become the kind of person where all his problems are caused by 'Trump lovers' or 'crazy christians', ESPECIALLY when he's the most to blame for the issue. The bit about him blasting a friend of his father's, and arguing with his dad on Facebook for all to see was the point that made me feel, even though he's not in the Texas scene, he may have been the person Cody was talking about.

Schemmel fits the context more though, being involved with Funimation. However, I can't find too much on that with my Google-fu. It could also have been someone who isn't even on our radar. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some other VA not in the direct spotlight of those first few days of #Kickvic in February, but who still has weight.

The company was never specified. What'll be interesting is if Rial is in R1 as Ty recently said Igor/Iago wouldn't be R1 as that affects my Iago = Sabat, Igor =Rial theory.

The pool for Iago is either extremely small or a lot larger if they truly have kept their hands clean like Ty suggests, like clean enough to the point they aren't on most of our radars. The pool for Igor seems to be getting smaller and smaller.

In regards to an earlier post about Iago 'despising' Igor being a reason Sky couldn't be Igor, I'm not so sure we can know for sure what his actual feelings about Skye are. Remember, Ty said Igor 'thinks' Iago has their back. It is very likely Iago does things publically that implies he would cover Igor, like 'thirst' on her tweets.

Anyway, pointless theory-mongering over. If I had to energy to find a fitting meme, I'd make one about blue balls round 3 for Wednesday and no lawsuit updates. Please, oh please, let it be tonight!

 

[repentance]

I understand that but the posts I replied to disputed how simple the common law marriage process is in Texas.

Now the topic has moved on to if they'll try to abuse the extremely lax evidence requirements of common law marriage to try and backdate it to retroactively invoke spousal privilege especially considering there's several early weebwars videos and posts that refer to Soye as Monica's husband thus they can point to that and say "teehee look we've been married these people who hate us even said so so why would they lie for our benefit (:"

Parroting legislation repeatedly is pointless and doesn't strengthen your argument. The devil is in the case law.

 

[Captain Manning]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

OR IS IT?

I mean, all this bullshit started up as soon as Vic moved to Texas, prior to this nada, nothing, no shitty metoo movement, or trying to kill his career.

I wonder if it's a big pond small fish mentality from Rial, Sabat et al.

Vic's a huge fish in star power terms, we've seen that obviously from the major success of Kamehacon.

What if they didn't like this whale (monetary term, not Vic's weight, eat more steaks for a bit please dude, you've lost too much from all this shit) coming into their waters well and decided now was the time to get rid of him more permanently?

Now I find myself wondering if they might have had jealosy towards Vic because of Funi possibly paying him more because he demanded a higher rate of pay after relocating from unionized California. Remember there has been talk of Funi paying less than other companies because of being non-union.

Anyone else think this might have some merit or am i just being an exceptional/austistic individual?

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

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Did their mothers drink while pregnant or did they just bash their heads against the wall to get this pants-on-head stupid?

Because -- wow, that is an exceptional achievement.

 

[quickthrowaway]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

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Man, and I thought people were bad with Ty's clues on here.

Yeah, I'm sure Ty wants to screw over Nick. In spite of all the work he's helped him with. While he was on his stream last night, Ty even says that he got more clients just from them watching Nick's streams.

 

[captkrisma]

Is there something against Rooster Teeth, though? He said there could be something there despite them not being as exceptional as Funimation.

Possibly. It's heavily alluded that Jen Brown was a member of HR within the company.

 

[Jack Atlas]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

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Cap, you must show Nick this and tell us his reaction, this is just too much

 

[BoxofMonkeys]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

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That persons on a ventilator right? Someone that exceptional can't possibly breathe on their own.

 

[ctalkep]

Catholics literally eat Jesus every Sunday. Not kidding. It's a piece of unleavened bread they call the body of Christ. So it probably isn't disrespectful to eat Monica Rial in the form of a jelly bean.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Shortround seems to be having fun. I wonder how much the one side has "donated" to the gofundme.

And how many Ron ended up buying himself.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

Man, and I thought people were bad with Ty's clues on here.

Yeah, I'm sure Ty wants to screw over Nick. In spite of all the work he's helped him with. While he was on his stream last night, Ty even says that he got more clients just from them watching Nick's streams.

Daily reminder:
We need to reopen mental institutions and warehouse these people. They are not fixable and there are not anywhere near enough cult deprogrammer level psych professionals in the country to make a dent. I'm not remotely joking. These people are dangerous to society. Anyone that disconnected with reality is certainly that brain damaged in other areas than just Anime fandom.

 

[Captain Manning]

Cap, you must show Nick this and tell us his reaction, this is just too much

I got it from HIS Discord. I'm sharing it HERE. His Discord server is actually tracking PULL and ResetERA better than we are now it seems, and there are several Kiwis there now.

I can't be arsed to keep track of these forum idiots. Twitter is bad enough. Every time I try, more of my brain cells die off. No thanks. I just post things when I see something incredibly stupid.

Also, I got voice confirmation that Nick absolutely loved @Null's reaction to Colonel J.

 

[Commander]

I would still love to know what was the reason or context for Monica to write her name on said Jellybean before giving it to him? I mean does that strike anyone as “normal”. Can anyone think of any possible explanation that does not involve some sort of flirty vaguely sexualized banter? And did this oh so super sekrit private investigation that only the cool kids are allowed to read, ask any questions about Monica’s role or actions in these encounters?

It’s going to be so much fun when she gets sat down under oath. Especially when a real survivor of sexual assault steps up and starts tearing her apart.

I mean Vic kind of confirmed they were really into to each other. io9 article kind of confirms they were in a relationship and Vic was cheating on his fiance with Rial. I don't know at the scale or what happened, but we can assume it ended in a way Rial didn't like. Pretty clear this is a break-up that ended badly and Rial's friends got in on it. I doubt we'll get that part of the narrative. God, this sounds like an episode of Real Housewives. I hate that show.

I wonder if there is a generational thing going on. I can see how younger Millenials would be offended as their oh-so-refined sensibilities have not become jaded, but both Rial and Marchi are middle-aged broads who ought to know better. And who almost certainly DO know better, as they are both involved in an industry where people horse around, especially amongst friends (as they thought). I would bet they are faking their """outrage""" for their own reasons.

I'm part of the older and grew up around a lot of old people. Nobody was ever bothered by a stranger hugging you or kissing you on the cheek. There were also things you could say that people think nothing of which Millenials would flip their shit at even hearing. I really feel bad for Vic having to put up with Mean Girls for years only to have his life destroyed later putting up with it. I can see people bothered by some of the things he did but absolutely no one should be saying "Oh he's a danger for kids and deserves to be hung and treated like Weinstein and Cosby." It's often why I go "what allegations?" because I think the people who said those things weren't expecting this to happen. Some were and they were all for that juicy attention.

But something I learned from teachers is people are getting too soft and all responsibilities and consequences are being stripped from kids. Literally if a kid beats you up, you can't do anything about it and are supposed to let that happen as if you block or try to stop a kid you probably are going to get fired. It's a very messed up system which I definitely think has a play into more SJW and outrage mobs. Yeah, the US is fucked in about 10 years.

Or RT has a change of heart and brings him back.

I'm just trying to be optimistic here because it sucks that he loses a relatively notable character.

We had many good memories of Qrow. Perhaps it's best he just dies here and now before RT can go full retard and ruin it. It is what it is and I'd rather have an innocent man be able to work then for him to get the role back in RT and we go through this again. I don't think I can handle this much stupidity again.

if it was another company, there'd be hope. but RT exclusively gives their writers so much creative freedom.

they would literally be allowed to kill off Qrow because they can't stand the guy because he said "this line is bad".

Those kind of people. I mean I get being pissed off working 2 weeks on something then having to keep changing it constantly for the rest of the month, but you need to get over it since it's YOUR JOB! Editing and rewriting stuff sucks but actually taking input can save your ass from becoming the laughing stock like the end of Volume 6 was. I actually like newer RWBY stuff, but that V6 ending was hot garbage even for me and my trashy low standards.

 

[TheClappening]

For anybody tired about all the speculating on who Iago is, I just wanna point out that PULL... the exceptional little pumpkins... theorizes that it's Nick, and that Ty is going to go after Nick.

I'm not joking.

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The actual fuck.

I don't know what confounds me more: the fact that they think a very pro-Vic Rekieta is somehow the anti-Vic Iago, or that they think Ty would be targetting him legally.

The actual fuck.