Game of Thrones Thread

What a fucking dumpster fire.

Low rent Jack Sparrow on coke noscopes 3/3 from a moving, bobbing ship to a fast moving airborn target? Lands two majors and a crit and then misses with 10 more shots on a close target in steady aim? You'd think after getting missed by every shot and passing at close range, A single belch of fire would have been enough...

Not to mention when you're 1500' up in the air, spotting a fleet of very large black ships on the water in broad daylight is kinda basic recon, even if you're not paying attention.

At least Arya and The Hound are back on the road together and odds of Cleganebowl are looking solid. I'm calling it though. Hound and Mountain fight to the death, Hound is barely alive after and Arya mercy kills him.
 
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Are Ellaria Sand and the Faith Militant sister both still in the dungeon underneath the Red keep? What did undead Mountain do to them?

Or are we supposed to forget they exist?
 
Are Ellaria Sand and the Faith Militant sister both still in the dungeon underneath the Red keep? What did undead Mountain do to them?

Or are we supposed to forget they exist?
Who are these characters, and what is this "Dorne" people keep talking about? I've never heard of anyplace called "Dorne." This must be a mystical, silly place the bards made up.
 
Are Ellaria Sand and the Faith Militant sister both still in the dungeon underneath the Red keep? What did undead Mountain do to them?

Or are we supposed to forget they exist?

Ellaria Sand was force-fed into watching her daughter poisoned to death and decompose, and Septa Unella was necroraped, yes.
 
Why exactly has the spider decided Jons a better candidate?

1) He's a terrible politician and makes constant mistakes, up to full blown diplomatic gaffs.
2)Robert Baratheon didnt want the power either.
3)He's a mediocare strategist and tactician at best. Which is best seen by the way his forces always take massive casualties.
4)if you watch the series he really doesnt have much skill at building up loyalty and is a really bad judge of character.

EDIT-a political marridge really would be the best option with Jon being declared king in the north ala dornish princes.
 
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Tons of people that say they hate the show are still watching it now, so presumably them.

I used to love the show and be super invested. That really changed once they fucked up with Season 5. I stopped caring about it and realized it was a soap opera and a piece of trash. I've been laughing at this show for years. At first it was shocking moments for the sake of shocking moments. Then it was like 'the good guys don't always win, its realistic' and then they give Ramsay Bolton the most ridiculous villain plot armor I've ever seen. And now its up to the phase of the 'Last Jedi' and subverting your expectations. It has literally gone through multiple bad writing trends that were in style at the time. Its like they looked at other shows and picked the worst shit about them. Then they watched the Last Jedi before they wrote Season 8. Its the Mass Effect of television. The first part was really great. The set-up to the second got you revved up, but it was a little lacking, but fun as hell. Then you get to the third and it shits itself and you realize, just like Mass Effect, they had absolutely no plan or idea on how to finish the series.

Its just gotten funnier. Its probably going to get absolutely hilarious because they have absolutely no time to set up what they want to do. There's no possible way it will make the least bit of sense and be absolutely ridiculous. I'm looking forward to the salt when Dany inevitable invades and just starts murdering everybody because she lost a dragon and her token black friend.

Also if Rain Johnson complains on Twitter about the ending there is going to be so much fucking snark to him about 'subverting expectations' it will break the internet.

Oh, and ending the series? I mean, the shit isn't hard. Have the White Walkers be completely mysterious. Make Bran the key to being the only one to talk to them. Redo Hardhome so there's no ultimate evil. Keep the baby turning thing since that's the only way the Others allow him to stay. The White Walkers are actually servants of the Others. Not the real thing. Seasons 8, 9 and 10 are all about the long night enveloping Westeros and the consequences it brings. From top to bottom, the old legends start to come true. Jon is Azhori Ahi, the Prince Who is Promised who leads the remnants of men. Since the others rarely ever reveal themselves, have Jon and a handful of characters go on a suicide mission to find 'The Others' with Bran, who has seen the past, but can't make it out since it is so distant, but he knows there's something beyond the dead and the white walkers responsible for the Long Night. Political shit still goes on, but everyone who focuses on it dies a horrible fucking death. Good and bad. Only those united around Jon survive. After going through the wall, the wights, they finally reach the others. Bran speaks with them and the revelation is that the Others aren't evil, but that ages ago the wall was built as a treaty between the realms of men and the realms of the other. Peace would hold as long as the men stayed on their side of the wall. It wasn't something that kept them out, it was to keep men from going in. The realms of men, being mortal, eventually forgot about all this. The Wildlings broke the peace, and the Others don't recognize the different factions of men. The initial deaths and circles were warnings for them to leave before peace was broken, but because the Others can't communicate with humans, the Wildlings have no clue what is going on. This leads to the long night and the war on men. Jon has to broker peace with them, he was brought back from the dead not to defeat them, but to bring peace to the realms of men and the Others. Jon marries or stays with the others as a show of unity (or Reborn Ygritte as an 'Other'), while the long night and the war on men ceases and the wall is rebuilt. Dany goes back to rule the Seven Kingdoms, which have been completely devastated. She is the queen of ashes, as the prophecy foretold. The last scene is her sitting on the Iron Throne, alone, in a decimated King's Landing. Fade to black.
 
I used to love the show and be super invested. That really changed once they fucked up with Season 5. I stopped caring about it and realized it was a soap opera and a piece of trash. I've been laughing at this show for years. At first it was shocking moments for the sake of shocking moments. Then it was like 'the good guys don't always win, its realistic' and then they give Ramsay Bolton the most ridiculous villain plot armor I've ever seen. And now its up to the phase of the 'Last Jedi' and subverting your expectations. It has literally gone through multiple bad writing trends that were in style at the time. Its like they looked at other shows and picked the worst shit about them. Then they watched the Last Jedi before they wrote Season 8. Its the Mass Effect of television. The first part was really great. The set-up to the second got you revved up, but it was a little lacking, but fun as hell. Then you get to the third and it shits itself and you realize, just like Mass Effect, they had absolutely no plan or idea on how to finish the series.

Its just gotten funnier. Its probably going to get absolutely hilarious because they have absolutely no time to set up what they want to do. There's no possible way it will make the least bit of sense and be absolutely ridiculous. I'm looking forward to the salt when Dany inevitable invades and just starts murdering everybody because she lost a dragon and her token black friend.

Also if Rain Johnson complains on Twitter about the ending there is going to be so much fucking snark to him about 'subverting expectations' it will break the internet.

Oh, and ending the series? I mean, the shit isn't hard. Have the White Walkers be completely mysterious. Make Bran the key to being the only one to talk to them. Redo Hardhome so there's no ultimate evil. Keep the baby turning thing since that's the only way the Others allow him to stay. The White Walkers are actually servants of the Others. Not the real thing. Seasons 8, 9 and 10 are all about the long night enveloping Westeros and the consequences it brings. From top to bottom, the old legends start to come true. Jon is Azhori Ahi, the Prince Who is Promised who leads the remnants of men. Since the others rarely ever reveal themselves, have Jon and a handful of characters go on a suicide mission to find 'The Others' with Bran, who has seen the past, but can't make it out since it is so distant, but he knows there's something beyond the dead and the white walkers responsible for the Long Night. Political shit still goes on, but everyone who focuses on it dies a horrible fucking death. Good and bad. Only those united around Jon survive. After going through the wall, the wights, they finally reach the others. Bran speaks with them and the revelation is that the Others aren't evil, but that ages ago the wall was built as a treaty between the realms of men and the realms of the other. Peace would hold as long as the men stayed on their side of the wall. It wasn't something that kept them out, it was to keep men from going in. The realms of men, being mortal, eventually forgot about all this. The Wildlings broke the peace, and the Others don't recognize the different factions of men. The initial deaths and circles were warnings for them to leave before peace was broken, but because the Others can't communicate with humans, the Wildlings have no clue what is going on. This leads to the long night and the war on men. Jon has to broker peace with them, he was brought back from the dead not to defeat them, but to bring peace to the realms of men and the Others. Jon marries or stays with the others as a show of unity (or Reborn Ygritte as an 'Other'), while the long night and the war on men ceases and the wall is rebuilt. Dany goes back to rule the Seven Kingdoms, which have been completely devastated. She is the queen of ashes, as the prophecy foretold. The last scene is her sitting on the Iron Throne, alone, in a decimated King's Landing. Fade to black.
This is good, actually. Way better than what we have or are going to get.
 
Why exactly has the spider decided Jons a better candidate?

1) He's a terrible politician and makes constant mistakes, up to full blown diplomatic gaffs.
2)Robert Baratheon didnt want the power either.
3)He's a mediocare strategist and tactician at best. Which is best seen by the way his forces always take massive casualties.
4)if you watch the series he really doesnt have much skill at building up loyalty and is a really bad judge of character.

EDIT-a political marridge really would be the best option with Jon being declared king in the north ala dornish princes.

1. Rober Bratheon did want the throne, he just didn't want to do the job after he got it.
2.Jon is much easier to control than dany, that's why varys would rather have him up there.
 
This is good, actually. Way better than what we have or are going to get.

The ending needed to revolve around the White Walkers / Others in some way, not relegate them to a side plot that's resolved with shockingly little sacrifice (in terms of characters, not disposable cannon fodder).
 
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Also, when the finale airs the internet is going to burn. Seriously, the entire fandom will collapse. There will be like 5 people who think it was a masterpiece.
:optimistic: I think a bunch of the general populace are still going to love it.
Eddard Stark rescinded it when he was Hand in S1 and told Varys to call it off but he replied it was too late.
I think there is a scene just before an assassination attempt on Dany of Jorah reading a letter from Kings landing.

I'd expect the unsullied to have both removed just like Varys 'root and stem' how shit was done in medieval times doesn't really matter when the show continuously ignores those things. I've seen a bunch of posts about s8ep3 with people wanting to go back to the battle of the bastards, which is hilarious to me. I thought that battle was similarly bad, with some nice spectacle shots but not much else.
 
I held off reading the spoilers until this last episode.

I think this is a valuable lesson in why the books should be written before adaptations are made. Sure there are issues with the LOTR movies but we had a canon to compare with.

Until now I had thought the Eragon movie was the worst adaptation of a fantasy book. I think we have a new winner.
 
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