Question, my fellow tard brothahs, talking about something that has some quality to it.
The Force Unleashed
What are your thoughts on it and Starkiller's character?
It came to me as I wondered about their games and how the character of Starkiller could be seen as a "Gary Sue" since he defeats both Vader and Sideous (even having the option to kill Vader, tho he canonically decides not to). Personally I never minded it but it does make you wonder if his feat of defeating Vader and Sideous wouldnt be going too far, Galen had shown natural potential with the force when he was a freaking toddler (he fucking force pulls Vader's lightsaber from his grasp like it was nothing) and being trained by Vader himself by being put under constant torturous and life threatening conditions would definetly give him a natural edge against him. The problem is that I never felt like Galen was truly trained that much by the dark side, he should have ended up as something like Darth Maul and yet Galen was capable of changing sides and even "becoming a Jedi" somewhat (which for me just felt like they were trying to force a light side ending). But with all its flaws, I do enjoy the game for what it is, especially for the time it came out (no wonder the new game is trying to copy it).
Now to quickly talk about the sequel
Nope, I dont like it, felt forced as hell and the starkiller clone felt like cheap plot device to bring him back but "not really", the first game ended on a tragic bittersweet note that added to the universe at the end, Galen's family icon becoming that of the rebellion was a nice touch and Vader accidentally helping the rebellion (while a bit forced in my eyes, seeing a patern here?) had that nice touch of dramatic irony. The sequel dropped most of these things and its far too short...and thats it, there isnt much to talk about the sequel, it was pretty much the last significant game Lucasfilm did it before Disney bought them, anything else was cancelled or was stuck in development hell.
I liked the first Force Unleashed. Granted a few minor things did kind of feel off story-wise, but overall it was a fun game and I enjoyed the gameplay, even though the game wasn't successful at capturing the complex lightsaber mechanics of predecessors, but the violence was kino. Also wrecking a whole Star Destroyer by yourself feels pretty damn good.
The sequel however is another story. I really wasn't fond of the story at all, especially how it handles
Starkiller's "deaths" and the clone nonsense, but I didn't hate it... much... And the story (while not to my liking) wasn't unwatchable or dogshit and the characters weren't offensive to the senses like Disney's, I just really wasn't fond of the direction they took, but in the end I had fun with the game and its setting at least. Could've been handled way better honestly but its something I would find myself replaying, although that may have been due to how short it was.
They're not my favorite SW games as there were games far more superior to them, but they still get a good and above average grade unlike Disney games where they're usually below average or just down right scam-tier.
I also appreciate both games for carrying on the tradition of jedi games letting you choose between light and dark and making it so your decisions have meaning, unlike the upcoming Fallen Order where you're stuck with a linear character with a fixed moral compass.
Edit: I also forgot to add that Force Unleashed's existence is what resulted in Vader, Yoda and Starkiller in Soul Calibur IV. That made the first FU totally worth it.
Let's not exaggerate the state of Star Wars before The Mouse bought it. Lucas fucking ruined the franchise with his atrocious prequel films. People like to claim the PT are ackshually great compared to the ST. No they aren't. They're awful.
You could say live action SW was at least still restricted to the films, and that would be true. But the brand was damaged long before Disney overpaid for it and decided to fuck it up in a slightly different way.
"Ruined the franchise" is a bit of an extreme. The only thing the prequels accomplished was killing people's hopes for ever seeing a good SW film again, but honestly they should've seen that coming after ROTJ's Ewoks turned out to be hamfisted merch promotion which was followed by the questionable Ewoks: Caravan of Courage. Despite the questionable quality of writing and continuity in the prequels, the franchise was far from ruined or fucked. Merch was still selling like hot cakes, awesome and highly praised games were still coming out the wazoo, Genndy Wars was an award-winning animated mini-series that managed to make something amazing out of what was considered at the time the worst SW film (AotC), comics and novels were taken over by prequel shit for a bit but even they found ways to turn the awful story and characters of the prequels around while selling more than Disney's lackluster comics and novels. And despite my many MANY grievances with Filoni Wars and a movie/pilot that rightfully flopped in theaters, it proved very successful, didn't hold back on violence and death, went all out with its budget by creating a show that still looks better than Disney's modern cgi shit shows 10 years later, and it spawned its own large young fanbase (with a creepy waifu cult based around an orange 13 year old they never shut up about) that remains a large part of Disney's adult audience to this day much to my mixed chagrin... Same with Karen Travis Fandalorian wank, in that while it was filled to the brim with obnoxious Mandalorian masturbation fantasies, it spawned an even bigger fanbase to rival and eventually surpass the Klingon fanbase within Trekkies. And to repeat, the video game scene of SW thrived insanely in the 2000s, and despite the release of the disaster that was TORtanic in 2011, that wasn't enough to even hurt the brand but make people look down on EA more than ever. And despite how abysmal Attack of the Clones was, ROTS managed to earn far more than it. And as proven by some japanese editing nerd, there's a good movie to be salvaged from the prequels with some proper editing and japanese dialogue to replace the poorly directed english dialogue. So yes, TPM is flawed, AotC is bad and ROTS had the potential to be better, but they didn't ruin the franchise to the point where that shit could no longer rake in cash, and despite what critics and the media said, you would still see kids, parents and nerds buying both OT, Prequel and other SW stuff they came across. Meanwhile Disney is forced to just dump every unsold thing they produce into furnaces and warehouses to hide the shame of their financial losses.
Case in point:
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Apparently the comics have gotten so bad they are actually putting in ships made by fans and tracing miniatures for the art.
Is this common in comics? This just seems like really shoddy quality control.
Just to name a few of the countless things that have gone wrong without even bringing up the further disasters that were Galaxy's Edge, Solo and BFII's controversial release.