Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Point of order, gentlemen (no ladies, since there are no girls on the internet as per rule 16, no exceptions)
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Just because there is a real chance that you and all your loved ones will die, choking from the pus in their lungs, does not give you an excuse to shit all over the Kiwifarms culture and devolve into reddit- or facebook-tier savagery of virtue-signalling.
Keep calm and keep making fun of the antics of the general populace. Thank you.
 
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- Corona test: no infection. It must be a stress reaction I have with the situation in question. Suspicion of me being infected became widely publicized and raised concerns about exposure in THL. As part of our social and health care, it is important to take care of our people's ability to work. Thank you for your support of our work, Tervahauta wrote on Twitter.
 
Just because there is a real chance that you and all your loved ones will die, choking from the pus in their lungs, does not give you an excuse to shit all over the Kiwifarms culture and devolve into reddit- or facebook-tier savagery of virtue-signalling.

The Kiwi Way is that if one of us starts choking on lung pus all the other Kiwis should stand around laughing at them, even at the risk of being infected.
 
Belgium is a mess. We do not, and I repeat, do NOT even have a government right now.
They are trying to assemble a parliament but it does not seem to work very well.
And here I thought Malaysia was the only exceptional one who'd try and shuffle the government in the midst of a growing epidemic. Glad to know we're not alone.
 
Age specificity of cases and attack rate of novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) - Japanese Study
173 male cases and 121 female cases. Out of 173 male cases, seven were aged 0-19 years, 84 were aged 20-59 years and 82 were aged 60 years and older, while three were aged 0-19 years, 69 were aged 20-59 years and 49 were aged 60 years and older for female. It is remarkable that there are very few child cases aged from 0-19 years in Japan.
Figures 1E and 1F show the AR estimates by age group and gender. AR was very low, 7.2% (95% Confidence Interval (CI): 3.0%, 14.3%) and 3.8% (95% CI: 0.8%, 10.6%), respectively, among male and female children aged from 1 0-19 years. The peak AR was seen in those aged from 50-59 years both for male, 22.2% (95% CI: 16.3%, 29.0%), and female, 21.9% (95% CI: 14.4%, 31.0%).
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What our short analysis shows is that children are less likely to be diagnosed as cases, and moreover, the risk of disease given exposure among children appears to be low. Both the overall risk and the conditional risk of disease given exposure are likely to be the highest among adults aged from 50-69 years. The finding contradicts other widely circulating respiratory viral infections, e.g. seasonal influenza and respiratory syntactical virus infection, to which children are known to act as the focal host of transmission. How can the age-specificity happen? The most plausible explanation that we believe is immune imprinting (to a similar virus among adults. Such virus must have continued to circulate in the human population by 20 years ago, and may be most intensely circulated by around 50 years ago. Severe acute respiratory syndrome-2 (SARS-2) coronavirus may be antigenically closely related to the old coronavirus, and infected adults in the present day may experience erroneous recognition of SARS-2 coronavirus.
Definitely not the flu guys
Immune imprinting is a double edged sword esp. in combination with ADE, look below. (Remember the last Dengu ADE Post) -> People who have been exposed to a corona-virus in the past are in a higher risk group (currently by the stuff reported till now the probability is around 7/10 of this being the case).
Although not focusing on the age specificity, a hypothetical discussion took place, suspecting of antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) as a potential biological mechanism of heterogeneous risks of death [3], which could explain the diagnosis of severe cases in higher age groups than in children, as seen in the present study.

Maternal and neonatal outcomes of pregnant women with COVID-19 pneumonia: a case-control study - Chinese Study
@Non-Expert!,
Premise
The clinical reports on maternal and neonatal outcomes of pregnant women with SARS-CoV-2 infection remain sparse. An earlier study by Chen et al. reported nine pregnant women with COVID-19 pneumonia, who took cesarean section in a tertiary hospital of Wuhan[7]. These patients showed clinical symptoms similar to non-pregnant patients with COVID-19 pneumonia. They also claimed that there was no evidence of vertical transmission. To date, none of previous studies have compared maternal and neonatal outcomes of pregnant women with COVID-19 pneumoniato those without pneumonia, to investigate the adverse effects of COVID-19 infection on pregnancy.
Given overloaded healthcare systems and limited test capacities during our study period, we were concerned about under-reporting of COVID-19 cases if solely relying on laboratory tests.
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Therefore, in this study we also included the suspected patients with typical chest CT imaging but negative in RT-PCR tests. Eleven pregnant women who were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 were classified as laboratory confirmed case group, and eighteen with typical chest CT imaging but tested negative in RT-PCR tests as suspected case group.
Methodology
Only those aged 25-35 years were selected to match the age range of cases. We selected 121 women who were admitted during the same period (control2020 group). Considering the potential adverse effects of mental stress caused by city lockdown and severe epidemics, we also included a second control group of 121 women admitted during January 24 –February 11, 2019 (control2019 group). Blood test results were also retrieved from medical records. Two case groups underwent a blood test every three days but two control groups only took once on admission.
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Demographic characteristics of two case groups and two control groups are shown in Table 1. The age of confirmed cases ranged 26-37 years and all were in the third trimester. Two confirmed cases (18.2%) and one suspected case had chronic conditions of hypertension, polycystic ovary syndrome and hepatitis B. Their gestational weeks on admission ranged 33 weeks plus 6 days to 40 weeks plus 4 days. Around 70% of two case groups had other
maternal complications, significantly higher than the controls (31-33%). All these complications were developed before diagnosis of pneumonia.
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Not good, not terrible
Fourteen patients had caesarean section, because confirmed or suspected COVID pneumonia has become one indication for caesarean section in our hospital since 24 January 2020. Two patients had vaginal delivery because neither presented any respiratory symptoms when admitted forfull-term labor. One of them had fever two days after childbirth and another had CT images of patchy shadows in the right lung on the same day of labor.
Pneumonia->caesarean section, lowering risk, labor is no joke esp. if you can't get O2
All COVID-19 pneumonia patients received antibiotics and four patients received antivirals during hospital stay.All of them have been discharged or transferred to the designated hospitals for COVID-19 patients, and length of stay in our hospital ranged from 3 to 26 days, with a median of 9 days.None were admitted into the intensive care unit (ICU) because of COVID-19 pneumonia or severe maternal complications.
Sixteen patients with confirmed COVID-19 pneumonia gave birth to seventeen babies (ten singleton and two twins). Two singletons were born prematurely due to premature rupture of membranes and placental abruption. There were 23.5% and 21.1% preterm births among the newborns of the mothers with confirmed or suspected COVID-19 pneumonia, significantly higher than those of the controls (5.8% and 5.0% in the 2020 and 2019 controls (Table 4).
Relatively positive stuff below.
Low birth weight also occurred more often in two case groups (17.6% and 10.5%) than in two control groups (2.5%). Newborns showed no significant differences between the cases and controls in key neonatal indicators including gestational age at birth, APGAR score at 5 minutes,and intrauterine fetal distress. No events of severe neonatal asphyxia and deaths occurred in these newborns.
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Implying caesarean section - no transmission
Three newborns (including two twins), who were delivered by caesarean section, took throat swabs at 4 and 14 days after birth. All three tested negative for SARS-CoV-2
The rest tested probably positive, can't explain why they wouldn't include their results if they weren't negative as well.

The time scale of asymptomatic transmission affects estimates of epidemic potential in the COVID-19 outbreak - South Korea - mostly informed guesswork, Ro could be higher, could be lower
If asymptomatic infections are more persistent than symptomatic ones, the mean generation interval for COVID-19 could be longer than estimated from symptomatic cases alone. possibly increasing R0 (Figure 1B). However, if asymptomatic cases tend to resolve quickly,then current estimates of R0 may be overestimates of the underlying strength (Figure 1B), and asymptomatic cases may be driving a larger fraction of secondary cases than we would expect without accounting for their differences (Figure 1A). Note that cases do not have to be completely asymptomatic for our qualitative results to apply. People with mild symptoms unlikely to be diagnosed in a particular time and place (sometimes referred to as subclinical cases) are expected to affect transmission patterns in the same way.
Don't expect anything to come out in regards to the impact of asymptomatic spread on the Ro till next month.

Protocol for a randomized controlled trial testing inhaled nitric oxide therapy in spontaneously breathing patients with COVID-19 - Chinese
Something should come out of this, hopefully by the end of the month.
 
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When did Bat become a delicacy in China? Is this a recent phenomenon of needing to keep up with Wangs?
You didn't know?
Any unordinary sentient thing can be a delicacy in China. Bats, rats, civets, mice, kangaroos, peacocks...
We need a new rule: If it moves, some Asian somewhere will eat it.
This is contrary to the "if you think you're good at something, some Asian somewhere will beat you at it".
Or maybe, "if you think it can't be consumed, some Asian somewhere will prove you wrong"?

Time to laugh at some lying slants.
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This happened some days ago and I thought it was too fake.
Apparently, some Chinese family asked 3 times to be checked for the virus, was put down, subsequently flew back to Beijing to be hospitalised instead.
This became a hit as Chinanet users rammed their face on keyboards, filling shitholes such as weibo with jingoistic America bashing comments. I didn't jump on this bandwagon because I thought chances are, she was a liar.

I can't say for sure that this source is reliable, but it sounds more real. Apparently she lied to media in both countries. In America, the MSM is anti-Trump, so this case becomes their ammo to somehow deflect their own retarded pieces about "not panicking" and "it's just the flu bro", while being able to claim that the orange man is bad. In China, of course the media wants to endlessly demonise America.

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The people in the thread started by identifying the person as some kind of employee in some large biology-related company in Massachusetts, and citing a rumour that she was lying. She was simply unhappy with the treatment of "stay at home", so she escaped. She lied on the way, all the way to Beijing. She is diagnosed with the virus, so potentially many dozens that contacted her are now at risk. The news article claims that she had close contact with 59 people, 14 of which are from Beijing.

Song verifies this claim. Saying that she initially bought into the lie and called the cops.

She apparently got the virus from some kind of gathering held by "Biogen Biostatistics Department". She lied repeatedly, all the way till she made it onto CCTV news. Song said that's she's relieved (as a plague carrying slant is now in Beijing, not America near her), and that she will get the police to contact CCTV.

Then they talk about how she's a pathetic lying creature, deserves to be punished, it's reasonable if she wants to survive but it shouldn't jeopardise the health of others... etc
 
Here the home guard is manning the non-acute Corona info-hotline, and they've become the butt of a whole lot of jokes because they supposedly give terrible advice.


Freedom of movement doesn't really mean anything with regards to tourism, hardly any countries ban tourists because it's free money. Even North Korea has tourism. Freedom of movement is about stealing jobs.
Doesn't a job being "Stolen" Imply you're somehow entitled to that job? As if employers exist solely to keep you employed rather than to produce goods and services as easily and cheaply as possible?
 
Burgers (NY at least) had this shit too
I'm sure California/Washington pulled this shit too and now they (allegedly) have tanks.
Why am I being represented by this stupid chink with a scarf that's long enough to be used as a noose?
Fuck off, I ain't hugging you. I'd rather hug a fucking oversized cactus.
Funny how she claims that she's not a disease. Attention whores no matter the ethnic or skin shade are the plague of humanity.
Also that's NYC right? 99.5% things out of that shithole of a city are a disease, Coronachan gifted or otherwise. You can't convince me they're not.
 
Yes they are wrong.

Giving a mental patient or a junkie or a junkie mental patient a home isn't going to solve the underlying problem and it will just lower property values when they inevitably fuck the property up and it will put innocent neighbors at risk.

We need to bring back institutions and employ modern psychological and medical techniques within said institutions.
I fully agree that they should be hospitalized, No one complained when the Soviet Union had mental hospitals. To be frank it makes sense to give these people treatment.
 
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Bit of a silly question but why do so many Chinese people identify themselves as 'a' Chinese rather than simply 'Chinese'? Does it have to do with how articles are translated from Mandarin? I see it often in youtube comments sections as well, like those under China Uncensored videos where people say 'As a Chinese'. It really shouldn't bother me that much but it always looks weird when reading it.
 
This isn't Reddit and I'm not going to mark my sarcasm as sarcasm

I have the exact opposite problem whenever I advocate for government mandated rectal implants. I genuinely think there are a lot of benefits to knowing where everybody's ass is at any given time.
Burgers (NY at least) had this shit too
I'm sure California/Washington pulled this shit too and now they (allegedly) have tanks.


EXHIBIT A: PRC seeding their bioweapon in major US city. (99.5% sure this is right by the central library on 42nd street in Midtown Manhattan. Probably the most heavily packed part of the city...)
 
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