Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[GethN7]

This is like @Autphag all over again, only switch out being crazy for being an asshole.

 

[The Last Stand]

Marriage is a social construct between a MAN and a WOMEN.

I didn't know you were a Mormon.

Now he's venting about gay people and marriage.

Either he's a closeted homosexual like Richard Spencer or upset that nobody wants to marry him.

 

[Table Country]

1. Not irreverent. When you're so gaslit that you deny reality, we got a code red emergency. This creates a "post truth society."
2. Marriage is NOT established by law, it's been part of human culture for 1000s of years, long before "the law" existed.
3. If you refuse to have sex with a non white = racism. If you refuse to have sex with same sex = homophobia. Logical consequence from normalizing homosexuality.

1. It's irrelevant because I never claimed that there weren't differences between the sexes, races, or fags and nonfags.
2. "The law" was established by humans as a construct. Mating with a woman and claiming them as your own isn't "marriage". Marriage is a legal contract established by various societies to, like you said, prevent hypergamy. Even then, some societies are cool with fucking a lot of women, like Islamic societies.
3. Bullshit, you are again conflating extremist rhetoric with majority opinion and repeating the exact same thing you just said without bringing in any further proof to back it up.

4. Strawman argument. 1. I want a hetro-normative culture. 2. If you aren't willing to defend minor issues than you won't defend major issues. I am sick of this fallacy.

1. What you want is irrelevant in the grander scheme of things. 2. Fair enough.

5. Gay marriage is not the same function. It's not about a man providing resources to a women so she raises his kids. If anything gay marriage is cultural appropriation,

Firstly the function is one or both persons providing resources to a household so that they can live comfortably, with or without children. Whether you think this is bullshit or not is moot. Secondly, what is this drivel? Have you horseshoed into a lefty now?

6. I am against the deceleration of independence. I don't believe all men [people] should be entitled to certain unalienable rights. life = rude behavior, liberty (freedom) = anarchy, pursuit of happiness = degeneracy. These values seem good on paper but in reality they are be careful for what you wish because you just might get it.

You are against the declaration of independence because it "grants" people the right to hurt your feelings, not obey the law (even if the law is retarded) and be faggots? Tough shit, self-awareness grants people these rights regardless of any established law or biblical commandment. I know that sounds fedora-y, but no amount of your sophistry will make it untrue.
You're also a hypocrite seeing as you defended Sargon's right to "behave rudely" on the pedestal of politics but when a faggot calls you a "MAGA chud" suddenly mean words are bad? You want to kickstart a revolution but you don't actually want to have to do any of the legwork or step on anybody's toes because doing so would be against the almighty LAW? You hate fags and yet you continue to partake in this all-star game of Kick the Autistic because you believe that sharpening your spoon of a wit will allow you to become a charismatic enough leader to take on professional grifters? What a fucking faggot.
I take it back, I would rape you. I'd even rape you to death. I'm done with you and your incoherent ideology, I'd wipe my ass with your manifesto if I had my hands on it. You are no different from the SJWs you hate so much, though I'm sure you'd use some inane miscellany to qualify yourself "different" from your opposition. You're either so stupid and lacking in self-awareness that holding any form of rational discussion with you is a complete waste of time, or you're trolling in which case your entire goal was to waste my time. Bully for you if the latter. Perform whatever feats of mental athleticism you need to justify how much you're owning the Hacker Known as Kiwi Farms; I wash my hands of your autism.

 

[Just wandering]

is white people becoming a minority and race mixing away a good or bad future?

How you can be so sure ''white'' will be inevitably a minority? You can throw stat in your favor but accessing the proportion of diversity will always greatly vary in how you will take it; city, what count as white, legal statue all of those will change the stat.
Also

https://insights.dice.com/2019/10/04/diversity-struggles-real-google/

What is the solution?
2 options:
1. send them back to africa
2. kill them all
I'm trying to be as reasonable as possible.

Haha no. Try to do that and you will killed not only be black but also whites(mostly white cop). Because when you start to use option .2 you become a public enemie

I didn't memorize a list. I learned from experience and google searches. Without knowing the fallacies or at least internalizing how to deal with them, you'll hit roadblocks.

I am writing a list to show other people the top fallacies that they need to avoid:

• Bait & Switch (Strawman & Motte-and-Bailey Fallacies)
• Sunk Cost Fallacy // We cannot do X in the future because of Y in the past or present.
• Appeal to Authority // Citing the law or expert testimony, including studies. "That's illegal" or "9/10 doctors believe...."
• Appeal to Popularity // Most voters believe X therefore we should do what they want.
• Appeal to Consequence // We cannot do what you want because I don't like the consequences of your policies.
• Equivocation // Racism is the best example because it means different things in different contexts and is conflated with discrimination and xenophobia. Another example is sexism which is conflated with misogyny,
• Circular Reasoning Fallacy // "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and are endowed by their create with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Also Ad Hominem is NOT always a fallacy. If character traits matters, than ad hominem will work as an attack e.g. (liar, dumb/low iq). Slippery Slope is not always a fallacy, often times it's the deductive conclusion of an axiom. Also anecdotal evident is not always a fallacy, it's a form of inductive reasoning and it's not different from any scientific study, just your own person study based on your "lived experience" and if your sample represents the population than this is a valid form of reasoning.

Ok it's only a fallacy when you say so. Each have their blind spot. But saying those count but those don't, make you a look like a dishonest manchild

Science denying. Natural selection wants genetic differences to occur and for us to complete with each other. Name of the game.

Do you even know what natural selection is?

I unblocked you because cucked this post is.

1. Tell me your bar of unreasonable. What is your threshold?

Everything the CRAs wanted was unreasonable even into the 1970s.
>treat a women the same as a man: cannot slap her ass, cannot compliment a her breast size. or hit on her period.
>treat blacks the same as whites: allow my kids to race mix, live with blacks, work with blacks, no escape from diversity.
This was unreasonable in the past .
Everything the SJWs propose today was unreasonable during #GamerGate.
>using preferred pronoun, treated a transwomen the same as a women.
>gay marriage is marriage, homosexuality is just as normal as heterosexuality.
>treating an illegal/non-citizen the same as a citizen.
>defending the police.

You always repeat the same crap. Yet you never really explain how those thing are unreasonable.

There is a difference between being polite and weak.

You don't seem to show, in your wordview, they are difference

 

[Heckler1]

Do you even know what natural selection is?

The reason he's going to be alone forever?

 

[Begemot]

This is like @Autphag all over again, only switch out being crazy for being an asshole.

The saddest thing is, sure @Autphag wanted a Communist slave state where neurotypicals were sent to gulags. Sure @Autphag threatened to kill his psychiatrist and College Dean. Sure he lived in a squalor and subsisted on red bull and bacon sandwiches and was trying to seduce schizo drugdealers in the street.

But he wasn't a snide arsehole like @BoxerShorts47. He wasn't trying to force a delusional form of incel nationalism on us and then prostituting himself for upvotes...

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

This guy will not 'go IRL', because there is no offline block list that can stop audience laughter.

Do we know any kiwis in Manilla

He still does worship Soygon of Assmad. Go over to the Soygon thread and he's over there sperging and white knighting.

I want to fight him IRL but how do I get to Manilla in the middle of a pandemic?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

ya exactly.
all civil rights or social justice liberalism boil down to:
>group x is unhappy by your actions
>accommodate them
>you're mean if you refuse.
starts with blacks -> feminists -> jews & catholics -> gays -> illegals -> muslims -> fat/able/criminal/etc.
always the same MO.
In the end, you lose your free-will, you lose your culture, and your society often turns to shit.

Are you seriously saying gays, muslims, immigrants, and jews/Catholics are criminals?

You are a shallow evil bastard and I would not have sex with you.

 

[José Mourinho]

Are you seriously saying gays, muslims, immigrants, and jews/Catholics are criminals?

You are a shallow evil bastard and I would not have sex with you.

Hey at least this point of view would make a great fit for A&N

 

[Doctor Placebo]

I unblocked you because cucked this post is.

Are you turning into wignat Yoda?

Almost all of the things he checks off on that list are absolutely traits of autism. I've known maybe 6-7 full blown autists in my life, including my own dad, they don't think they are something special the way a bipolar person on a major high might, 5/7 of them had an absurdly selfish entitled attitude, only 2 of them had any level of concern for anyone else but themselves. They tend to believe that literally all of their problems are other people's fault, no one knows better than them, everyone else is stupid, and then there's always a bunch of weird idiosyncratic specifically autistic shit, for example they will also say shit like "society doesn't actually exist anyone who believes in society is stupid" "there's no such thing as power, political power is just your imagination".

The dead giveaway that it's autism and not something like narcissistic personality is completely retarded beliefs about society, their relationship to other people, their own importance, etc. I don't mean ignorant beliefs like the average liberal, I mean retarded beliefs like the kind of shit nobody with a functional brain could possibly conclude. One autistic guy I worked with used to believe that it was a personal attack on him if he wasn't allowed to completely fill out and sign off on every single form in the office.

I once heard my dad say that he doesn't go to the doctor because his willpower is stronger than diseases ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Crossposting from the Moviebob thread. Who does this sound like? It's uncanny, really.

I love the way he just dug his own grave and then jumped into it with both legs.

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@BoxerShorts47, I thought you liked hairy Pinoy butthole, but you're actually into hairless tween twat?

What, are five-foot-nothing, ninety pound soaking wet Jap girls with a labiaplasty and Brazilian wax not child enough for you?

Please, tell us more about your raging boner and its insatiable desire to plow twelve-year-old pussy.

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He's like this terrible Megazord of the worst aspects of all four corners of the political compass.

BTW hope you like the new avatar, @BoxerShorts47! I know Sailor Moon is a bit older than you like 'em, but I wouldn't want to tease you with some loli because it would just be a frustrating reminder that you're not allowed to slap little girl ass because of feminism.

 

[Pansexual doorknob]

I'm still waiting for you to boot up a stream and tell us how the world should really work old fag.

 

[Dynamite Ninja]

Oh @Null, since this racist filth is ignoring people, can you make a link so we can remove all people from his ignore list, that way he'll be forced to interact with those who disagree with him (like you did with Brad Watson)?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Since this thread is now about religion, hey @BoxerShorts47 are you an atheist? If yes, any reasons why you are one, and if not what religion do you believe in and why?

Atheist. I don't see any good reason for the God's existence.

I love the way he just dug his own grave and then jumped into it with both legs.

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@BoxerShorts47, I thought you liked hairy Pinoy butthole, but you're actually into hairless tween twat?

What, are five-foot-nothing, ninety pound soaking wet Jap girls with a labiaplasty and Brazilian wax not child enough for you?

Please, tell us more about your raging boner and its insatiable desire to plow twelve-year-old pussy.

1. I am authoritarian left based on this chart. Most of us understand that capitalism = open borders.
2. Race and class are mutually exclusive concepts. You're trying to avoid the race situation by focusing on class.

lol, the historical age of consent in the western world was lower because arranged marriages were the norm, and it was illegal in most nations to get a divorce. There's a massive difference between getting married at a young age and allowing for niggas to pump and dump lolis. Personally I think arranged marriages should come back because science has shown most people don't reach neurological maturity until 25 and the gap between sexual maturity and neurological maturity is more than enough time for men and women both to completely ruin their chances at ever having a stable relationship.

P.S.
The lowest age of consent in US history being 12 is bullshit. It was federally 12 because at the time that was set, states still had sovereignty and that was an arbitrary "do not cross" line set to prevent states from going too lolicon.

Edit:
How the fuck do you say Sailor Moon is degenerate while being Aokay on loli?

I'm not talking about lolis. I am talking about teenagers.

1. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that teenage girls are in fact women? They are physically adults? not a child or transitioning into adult (pre-teen).
2. Yes or No. Despite being illegal, do you acknowledge that sexual relationships between high school age people (14-1 and college age (18-22) are common?
3. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that certain women do hit the wall in their 10s? Why teenage models are popular.

I think this issue of jail-bait occurs too frequently; IMO that means it's obvious that age of consent laws are criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. Totally hypocrisy because liberals are going around saying we should decriminalize marijuana usage. People shouldn't be arrested for using weed. Okay than why don't we decriminalize age of consent between 2 consenting adults? This seems like total hypocrisy to me. Alteratively is hetrosexual sex between 2 consenting adults (statutory rape) more or less degenerate than homosexuality?

I've seen the studies that say the brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. I think this is a result of western culture. K-12 system + university put people into a mental prison from the age of 6 till 22. It takes people a few years IRL to start fixing their mental health. If you look into history, you will see that the word teenager didn't exist until ~1940s. Teenager is a product of high school, result of putting kids into prison. So their bodies grow but their minds are stunted. Arrested development? is that the term for this? I also want to abolish k-12 education for this reason but that's a different conversation.

Oh @Null, since this racist filth is ignoring people, can you make a link so we can remove all people from his ignore list, that way he'll be forced to interact with those who disagree with him (like you did with Brad Watson)?

You're the filth. You're calling a racist because I want border or because I judge blacks by the consent of their character. Ultimately you're just trying to marginalize me with this racial slur. Go fuck yourself, anti white!

 

[Dynamite Ninja]

You're the filth. You're calling a racist because I want border or because I judge blacks by the consent of their character. Ultimately you're just trying to marginalize me with this racial slur. Go fuck yourself, anti white!

lol, I'm white you little bitch

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Are you seriously saying gays, muslims, immigrants, and jews/Catholics are criminals?

You are a shallow evil bastard and I would not have sex with you.

Cultural criminals? Yes.
I don't want homosexuality blasted into my face. I don't want Islamic mosques going up. I don't want to care about Hanukkah or the Pope.
These groups do change the culture of your nation.

lol, I'm white you little bitch

And do you speak with a white voice and advocate policies that are good for white people?

Pressley: Democrats don't need 'any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice'

Rep.

thehill.com

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I'm not talking about lolis. I am talking about teenagers.
1. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that teenage girls are in fact women? They are physically adults? not a child or transitioning into adult (pre-teen).
2. Yes or No. Despite being illegal, do you acknowledge that sexual relationships between high school age people (14-1 and college age (18-22) are common?
3. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that certain women do hit the wall in their 10s? Why teenage models are popular.

1- No. If you'd been around actual women, you might know this.

2- Define "common"

3- No. See #1.

You aren't even putting forth an argument, you're just saying "I like 'em damn young."

I also don't give a fuck about what you "think" fully maturing at 25 means, unless you can talk intelligently about development of the frontal brain lobes. And believe me, I do not intend to sit here and seriously ponder your qualifications to be a neurologist.

 

[mr.moon1488]

1. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that teenage girls are in fact women? They are physically adults? not a child or transitioning into adult (pre-teen).
2. Yes or No. Despite being illegal, do you acknowledge that sexual relationships between high school age people (14-1 and college age (18-22) are common?
3. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that certain women do hit the wall in their 10s? Why teenage models are popular.

1. Fucking no. I mean seriously you saw my post right? I don't even consider 24 year old males, or females to be true adults...

2. Yes, it's common... so is the common cold. That's still a disease. You're basically applying Kinsey's flawed arguments for degenerate sex practices to pedophilia.

3. Lol yes, certain females do... those with progeria for instance? As for them being popular, well no fucking shit. Western society has become incredibly degenerate where such paraphilias are tolerated rather than punished as they should be. Clearly what is popular in western society hasn't been working out too well wouldn't you say?

 

[José Mourinho]

Atheist. I don't see any good reason for the God's existence.

Please, do tell us more. I am very intrigued.

 

[Draza]

Atheist. I don't see any good reason for the God's existence.



1. I am authoritarian left based on this chart. Most of us understand that capitalism = open borders.
2. Race and class are mutually exclusive concepts. You're trying to avoid the race situation by focusing on class.


I'm not talking about lolis. I am talking about teenagers.

1. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that teenage girls are in fact women? They are physically adults? not a child or transitioning into adult (pre-teen).
2. Yes or No. Despite being illegal, do you acknowledge that sexual relationships between high school age people (14-1 and college age (18-22) are common?
3. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that certain women do hit the wall in their 10s? Why teenage models are popular.

I think this issue of jail-bait occurs too frequently; IMO that means it's obvious that age of consent laws are criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. Totally hypocrisy because liberals are going around saying we should decriminalize marijuana usage. People shouldn't be arrested for using weed. Okay than why don't we decriminalize age of consent between 2 consenting adults? This seems like total hypocrisy to me. Alteratively is hetrosexual sex between 2 consenting adults (statutory rape) more or less degenerate than homosexuality?

I've seen the studies that say the brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. I think this is a result of western culture. K-12 system + university put people into a mental prison from the age of 6 till 22. It takes people a few years IRL to start fixing their mental health. If you look into history, you will see that the word teenager didn't exist until ~1940s. Teenager is a product of high school, result of putting kids into prison. So their bodies grow but their minds are stunted. Arrested development? is that the term for this? I also want to abolish k-12 education for this reason but that's a different conversation.


You're the filth. You're calling a racist because I want border or because I judge blacks by the consent of their character. Ultimately you're just trying to marginalize me with this racial slur. Go fuck yourself, anti white!

"I think this issue of jail-bait occurs too frequently; IMO that means it's obvious that age of consent laws are criminalizing normal human sexual behavior"

You have now gone past the point of no return.

 

[AnOminous]

Now he's venting about gay people and marriage.

If he hates fags so much, why is he bending over and taking it up the ass over and over and over again?