The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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Another awful reverend, this time mocking Rush Limbaugh for getting over his painkiller addiction, which somehow makes him comparable to a life time criminal overdosing.
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Despite the fact black people killed her family, she blames white supremacy
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She also cried when Kamala got sworn in :story:
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Johannes Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and he did something like a year and a half.

And for the people who aren't familiar, the cop had a guy pinned on the floor and shot him in the back point blank in front of a trainload of people. He said he was reaching for his taser but pulled his gun on accident.


@Big Meaty Claws , blackchu needs a banana.
There was a lot of issues with that case.

The officer carried the old style M18 Taser which was modeled on the Glock G17 as opposed to the newer X26

He also carried both on his strong side a practice most departments forbid for this very reason but his didn't.
 
He quite literally did. The protocol he followed is designed to minimize risk in the majority of situations to which it's applied. It is not his job, nor responsibility to "assist in providing medical care" as that's something he's not trained in doing and because of that could actually make things worse.
We've gone over this before, but the whole point is that the prosecution must prove that the knee caused Floyd to die, otherwise Chauvin's actions did not contribute to Floyd's death and manslaughter cannot be a reasonable charge. So far the prosecution has provided no evidence that the hold Chauvin used was linked to Floyd's death in any way shape or form.
The trick I think they're playing rests on the assumption that black people are insane retards with no agency and must be treated like children. And I mean this not as an insult to them, but their logic is something like: yes this guy was a junkie, yes he sucked, yes he committed a crime and deserved to be arrested, yes he was high at the time and that may very well have contributed primarily to his death, but his life was in Chauvin's hands and the fact that he was not a literal saint to Floyd that makes everything that happens to him his fault. Because he did not save Floyd's life, he might as well have killed him, which is what he is really on trial for.
They never saw George Floyd as a saint. They saw him as an animal; he was a dog being hit in public. That's why they turn away from facts about his life, they want to see a poor pathetic imbecile screaming for his momma.

I mean of course by that logic it is also the EMT's fault for not getting their faster, it's that fat fire department bitch's fault for not acting more professionally to administer help, it's the store employee's fault for kicking it off, if we want to assign blame that broadly then everyone is to blame. Because according to the prosecution, it was this entire society's responsibility to keep this insane nigger alive. And if we do not see a white man hang, then this society deserves to suffer. This is the America you live in.
 
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Also, the prosecution seem to be trying to establish he was a frequent user of opioids and therefore would have a greater tolerance for anything he did take in pill form. Presumably then opening the way for arguing, the knee must have killed him rather than the eye-watering levels of opioid reported in his system at autopsy.

However, didn't the white girlfriend say he had only recently started taking pills again after an extended period of being 'clean' ?

Isn't there a wash-out period with opioid? Whereby, if they are not consumed for a period of time, the body looses its tolerance and smaller doses can subsequently have a greater effect?

This may have led to an accidental OD when previously tolerated levels of whatever the fuck was in those pills, is now a lethal dose.

Join me next week, for another episode of The Uninformed and Idle Armchair Speculator.
 
People saying Floyd was completely nullified and a 0 threat when he was handcuffed have never received an adrenaline powered kick to the gut from someone laying on the ground on their back, which you know its good they don't need to go trough that, but it teaches you shit
 
Also, the prosecution seem to be trying to establish he was a frequent user of opioids and therefore would have a greater tolerance for anything he did take in pill form. Presumably then opening the way for arguing, the knee must have killed him rather than the eye-watering levels of opioid reported in his system at autopsy.

However, didn't the white girlfriend say he had only recently started taking pills again after an extended period of being 'clean' ?

Isn't there a wash-out period with opioid? Whereby, if they are not consumed for a period of time, the body looses its tolerance and smaller doses can subsequently have a greater effect?

This may have led to an accidental OD when previously tolerated levels of whatever the fuck was in those pills, is now a lethal dose.

Join me next week, for another episode of The Uninformed and Idle Armchair Speculator.
The prosecution took "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" very literally, they might think Floyd was legit a dragon ball Saiyan
 
Also, the prosecution seem to be trying to establish he was a frequent user of opioids and therefore would have a greater tolerance for anything he did take in pill form. Presumably then opening the way for arguing, the knee must have killed him rather than the eye-watering levels of opioid reported in his system at autopsy.

However, didn't the white girlfriend say he had only recently started taking pills again after an extended period of being 'clean' ?

Isn't there a wash-out period with opioid? Whereby, if they are not consumed for a period of time, the body looses its tolerance and smaller doses can subsequently have a greater effect?

This may have led to an accidental OD when previously tolerated levels of whatever the fuck was in those pills, is now a lethal dose.

Join me next week, for another episode of The Uninformed and Idle Armchair Speculator.
Another problem is the whole mixing shit together. Someone earlier mentioned "Speedballs" I.E. mixing stimulants and opiods.
To quote that article:
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Cocaine acts as a stimulant, whereas heroin/morphine acts as a depressant. Co-administration is meant to provide an intense rush of euphoria with a high that is supposed to combine the effects of both drugs, while hoping to reduce the negative effects, such as anxiety, hypertension, palpitations and other common side effects of stimulants and sedation/drowsiness from the depressant. While this is somewhat effective, as one drug (the CNS stimulant) triggers the sympathetic nervous system and the other (the CNS depressant) triggers the parasympathetic nervous system, the two systems that regulate the fight-or-flight and rest-and-digest responses, respectively, and simultaneous activity of the two pathways is what normally keeps one's body in natural homeostasis, there is an imperfect overlap in the effects of stimulants and depressants. Additionally, by suppressing the typical negative side-effects of the two drugs, the user may falsely believe they have a higher tolerance, or that they are less intoxicated than they actually are. This can cause users to misjudge the intake of one or both of the drugs, sometimes fatally.

Because the stimulant effects of cocaine wear off far more quickly than the depressant effects of heroin or morphine, fatal respiratory depression often occurs when the full effects of a heroin or morphine overdose are felt in isolation. Due to the countering effect of the cocaine, a fatally high opioid dose can be unwittingly administered without immediate incapacitation, thus providing a false sense of tolerance until it is too late. This form of delayed opioid overdose is believed to be the most common mechanism of death in speedball overdoses."

Taking this crap in isolation is already a bad idea, but mixing it is playing with fire. Gobbling down a whole bunch of random mixed funny pills is practically suicide.
Add to this that this wasnt the first time our Black jesus has pushed too far for his own body to handle and i see an overdose death in police custody.
 
People saying Floyd was completely nullified and a 0 threat when he was handcuffed have never received an adrenaline powered kick to the gut from someone laying on the ground on their back, which you know its good they don't need to go trough that, but it teaches you shit

Excited Delirium and Sudden Death: A Syndromal Disorder at the Extreme End of the Neuropsychiatric Continuum
The characteristic symptoms of ExDS include bizarre and aggressive behavior, shouting, paranoia, panic, violence toward others, unexpected physical strength, and hyperthermia.
Excited Delirium is taught to all Minneapolis police officers.
The protocol listed in the MPD slides say that the proscribed procedure is to immobilize the suspect and wait for EMS to arrive.
The MPD person today trying to pretend that Floyd should have been just sat down on the curb or sidewalk while waiting for EMS to arrive is going to have MPD official training documents directly contradict his testimony.
 
Another awful reverend, this time mocking Rush Limbaugh for getting over his painkiller addiction, which somehow makes him comparable to a life time criminal overdosing.
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Despite the fact black people killed her family, she blames white supremacy
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She also cried when Kamala got sworn in :story:
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Excited Delirium and Sudden Death: A Syndromal Disorder at the Extreme End of the Neuropsychiatric Continuum

Excited Delirium is taught to all Minneapolis police officers.
The protocol listed in the MPD slides say that the proscribed procedure is to immobilize the suspect and wait for EMS to arrive.
The MPD person today trying to pretend that Floyd should have been just sat down on the curb or sidewalk while waiting for EMS to arrive is going to have MPD official training documents directly contradict his testimony.
'Butbutbut it's negligence when you think someone may be having one problem and they are actually dying of another problem'-Retards 2021
 
I matched with some chick on Tinder and her profile has a pic of fentanyl Floyd with angel wings on it. He's unironically a saint to some people.
With the way they idolize many of jigaboo thugs you'd think they're some unidentified asian religion. Watch out Japan they bout to outnumber your deities with dindunishka and it's children
 
To be fair the 3rd grade old guy left a nice impression too, he was also very factual and didn't suger coat or try to push an agenda while being questioned, so he's not alone in being a black witness that's well adjusted and productive member of society, and all that despite only receiving 3 years of education
To be even fairer, the dude was in his sixties meaning he was born near the end of Jim Crow. Now, Minnesota is as far from the south as you can get, but what is often ignored is that just because the north didn't explicitly segregate and work against its blacks, doesn't mean it treated them well. In fact, the north ended up treating blacks pretty god damn shittily well past the point that the South did since no one was forcing the north to treat em well at gunpoint.

It's unlikely he only had a third-grade education because he's stupid, and has a rather high likelihood of being taught explicitly by his parents how to not get fucking beaten to death by the police.
TV has fucked people into thinking some crazy shit. CSI can't do most of that they do, there's no surprise witnesses and the defense know most of what witnesses are going to say.
Unless they are the prosecution with their own witnesses in this case....
 
Every time I see someone here post an image of fentanyl Floyd and his big fucking honker and big fucking moo moo cocaine lips, I laugh so fucking hard, because of COURSE this “(living)” satire of a minstrel show character was the lowlife criminal to spark the civil war with his death. This is the retard that is the martyr for these idiots. of COURSE he was.
A riot in Constantinople, which lead to the deaths of around 10,000 people, was started with an argument between two factions of chariot racers. History has seen more idiotic reasons for massacres occurring.
 
It's unlikely he only had a third-grade education because he's stupid, and has a rather high likelihood of being taught explicitly by his parents how to not get fucking beaten to death by the police.
This is what people where saying earlier in the thread, he probably saw the worse that racism had to offer in that century back then when he was growing up and the reason he only reached 3rd grade education is most likely because of actual racism rather than him being stupid, he could had legit landed and retired from a decent job by now if it wasn't because he had to actually endure racism trough his formative years, unlike what most millennials love to claim today
 
I read the autopsy report I know he didn’t have injuries to the neck and the ‘mob’ was around 8 people who were concerned by what they were seeing. Chauvin has had 17 complaints logged and was involved in two shootings. He’s no martyr himself. I’m not here to argue anyway I’m not ‘one of those people’, I just see it differently and that’s allowed we can all agree to disagree. The jury is making the decision not us but not everyone will perceive the evidence in the same way. There must be some evidence that he was in the wrong to be charged and on trial for 2nd and 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

If the jury find him not guilty then he’s not guilty and that is the end of it. I respect your opinion, I’m not saying you’re wrong but just because I don’t see it the same way you do doesn’t mean I’m wrong. The jury is made of people of all ages, backgrounds, with their own opinions, I doubt everyone of them will agree on the first vote in deliberations. But once they get into debating then some members will likely change their opinion.
It's like the magic school bus theme
"Can we please have a normal field trip?" "WITH THE FRIZZ?!? NO WAY!"
in this case, with the jury having to fear the dick heads like NYT doxing them and dindus/antifa attacking them or their family. I don't think any minds will be changed to "not guilty" it'll be more like
"Can we please use the evidence or the lack thereof to make the right decision?"
"IN THE CURRENT YEAR?!? NO WAY!"
 
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