The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Pixy]

I wasn't aware that George Floyd introduced a radical new ideology of love and compassion, one that encompassed the entire world and changed the course of history, converting untold millions over two thousand years.
I was only aware of Mr. Floyd enjoying a steady diet of potassium.

You're joking, but it's spurred on protests in the rest of the West.

 

[LaxerBRO]

You're not wrong. There's also the phenomenon of "n-bomb rich" where someone gets a million dollars and instead of thinking, "How can I make this money work for me for the rest of my life?" they think "This is time to buy every single luxury item that ever crossed my mind."

$20 million should have gone right to the kids in some kind of trust where they get their educations paid for and a modest amount every month until they turn 25. Let the various screeching cousins and reverends fight over the rest.

Ze Article:

Specifically, it was found that Blacks and Hispanics tended to spend more on more visible goods (like clothing, cars, and jewelry) than Whites by about 20-30%, depending on the estimate, while consuming relatively less in other categories like healthcare and education.

I'm not doubting the importance of it, but the logistics. In this case where they have to be anonymous, I feel like the people physically close to them are going to notice they haven't existed for a month that just so happens to overlap with when the trial takes place.

I was already worried about it they didn't show up for work on days that conveniently correlate with the trial, but eh they could be working from home. If they're not seen anywhere else either and they just re-appear after the trial, an angry neighbor could easily dox them.

That is the beauty of a deadlock and mistrial. It's harder to identify those that insist on not guilty.

 

[Niggernerd]

I mean to be fair i think anyone would be going nuts with it like that at least at first if they suddenly got millions of dollars all at once

Fair enough, while shaniquas aren't known to be money smart hopefully she decided to move her and the kid to a safe suburb instead of staying the hood the minute they got it.

 

[MelloYello]

You're joking, but it's spurred on protests in the rest of the West.

Correction: The jew-media spurred on protests.
Manufactured outrage.
Half the people with strong opinions on that matter probably still believe the "hands up, don't shoot" lies from the Mike Brown case.
Or whatever other narrative-slop the media's been feeding them.
Half the people with strong opinions about the Hong Kong riots probably wouldn't be able to find the city on a map.

The fact that people are outraged doesn't prove there's any merit to their cause.

 

[Łimønča]

I didn't watch the trial today. Can someone who has give me a summary?

 

[Pixy]

Correction: The jew-media spurred on protests.
Manufactured outrage.
Half the people with strong opinions on that matter probably still believe the "hands up, don't shoot" lies from the Mike Brown case.
Or whatever other narrative-slop the media's been feeding them.
Half the people with strong opinions about the Hong Kong riots probably wouldn't be able to find the city on a map.

The fact that people are outraged doesn't prove there's any merit to their cause.

Hardly media-manufactured, grassroots activists were able to redirect local attention about what happens in the US to what's happening within their own country. Social media is pretty effective at disseminating things globally, so it's not unreasonable for them to capitalise on the social media sentiment to the benefit of local movements.

 

[Flip: Draw 2]

I didn't watch the trial today. Can someone who has give me a summary?

Beginning sucked. Ended with a bang.
Prosecution got a police lieutenant to admit that restraining someone that was no longer a threat when they require medical aid is not protocol.
The defense could only argue "It's complicated."
Very good day for the prosecution.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Beginning sucked. Ended with a bang.
Prosecution got a police lieutenant to admit that restraining someone that was no longer a threat when they require medical aid is not protocol.
The defense could only argue "It's complicated."
Very good day for the prosecution.

How could they prove he was no longer a threat?

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Beginning sucked. Ended with a bang.
Prosecution got a police lieutenant to admit that restraining someone that was no longer a threat when they require medical aid is not protocol.
The defense could only argue "It's complicated."
Very good day for the prosecution.

Not really.

Lt. Zimmerman directly contradicted the MPD's own manual on restraining subjects. Nelson is presumably saving that bullet to put in the prosecution's case later.

I strongly recommend Andrew Branca's review of the trial. He's a no-shit use of force and self defense lawyer who's been writing about said laws for a while. Linkage here.

 

[wry wrangler]

I didn't watch the trial today. Can someone who has give me a summary?

Legal insurrection has good day by day summaries of the trial. Here's day five: https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...-provide-state-with-poorly-informed-opinions/

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Legal insurrection has good day by day summaries of the trial. Here's day five: https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...-provide-state-with-poorly-informed-opinions/

Heh, good to see someone else following LI's coverage.

 

[DiabeticSP]

So does this shit keep going on the weekends or do I come back Monday.

 

[AnOminous]

I strongly recommend Andrew Branca's review of the trial. He's a no-shit use of force and self defense lawyer who's been writing about said laws for a while. Linkage here.

Agreed. He had been pointing out serious flaws in the prosecution's case well before the trial started, and as he's continuing to point out, the prosecution has not only failed to plan or address these problematic parts of the case, they seem to be going out of their way to dig the holes even deeper.

They might still win with this particular jury, but the case they have put on is shit and it is almost like they haven't even thought about the weaknesses in their case, beyond a general recognition that they probably can't prove the most serious counts, so they're focusing on the depraved heart and manslaughter type counts. That is actually a reasonable strategy in general, that is, keeping in the more serious counts so the jury thinks they're "compromising" if they find a lesser form of homicide.

I think they're even pretty weak on those, though.

I believe this is the defense's case to lose, though. They have a lot of openings and if they play them right, they have reasonable doubt, at least unless this jury is so hopelessly biased they have already made up their minds beyond reason.

I always think of To Kill a Mockingbird when Atticus Finch has more or less outright proven his client was innocent and the jury convicts anyway, and he knew from the start this was what was going to happen but did his best anyway. Ironic it's a cop on this side this time.

 

[wry wrangler]

Heh, good to see someone else following LI's coverage.

Well, it's just that all or nearly all media outlets that provide summaries selectively present or omit details as needed to make the case against Derek Chauvin as strong as possible. Now, when I first saw that video so many centuries ago I thought he was clearly guilty of murder. But in light of the many details that have emerged since then, I've changed my mind and believe he was not guilty of murder, or even manslaughter. Legal insurrection provides a healthy skepticism which the mainstream media and even most other online sources don't. Most of the mainstream media continues to omit details as needed to try and make Chauvin seem as guilty as possible. I simply can't find any concise summaries of events on a day by day basis anywhere else that aren't creatively interpreted or even edited to bolster the prosecution's case.

 

[AnOminous]

Most of the mainstream media continues to omit details as needed to try and make Chauvin seem as guilty as possible.

It's increasingly reminding me of the O.J. trial, not so much in that the judge is bad (he appears to be trying to keep things on the rails), but that what is actually going on in court and what the media is saying are at such complete variance that the public is getting a completely distorted view of what the jury is seeing.

People were shocked by the acquittal in the O.J. case but nobody who actually watched it should have been.

 

[Bongocat]

what is actually going on in court and what the media is saying are at such complete variance that the public is getting a completely distorted view of what the jury is seeing.

So just the news as normal, then?

 

[Flip: Draw 2]

Not really.

Lt. Zimmerman directly contradicted the MPD's own manual on restraining subjects. Nelson is presumably saving that bullet to put in the prosecution's case later.

I strongly recommend Andrew Branca's review of the trial. He's a no-shit use of force and self defense lawyer who's been writing about said laws for a while. Linkage here.

Interesting.I'm going solely off his testimony and the defense's counterarguments so I wasn't aware.

 

[Random Internet Person]

So does this shit keep going on the weekends or do I come back Monday.

Recess until Monday.

 

[Groovelord Neato]

At least his kid(s) will be okay with all the money they've gotten. They're going to have a cozy life. I just hope they don't grow up to do fuck all but puppet Floyd's corpse around with the rest. Better legacy than most can hope for.

lmao they will simply blow it all in a few years like every nba or nfl player evidently does

 

[Mnutu]

It's increasingly reminding me of the O.J. trial, not so much in that the judge is bad (he appears to be trying to keep things on the rails), but that what is actually going on in court and what the media is saying are at such complete variance that the public is getting a completely distorted view of what the jury is seeing.

People were shocked by the acquittal in the O.J. case but nobody who actually watched it should have been.

Do you mind running down the particulars of the OJ case? That case was such a shit show I wouldn’t know what you meant if I looked into it.