They were experimental when they arrived.
And they still are. Read my posts and the information even from the CDC.
And the cost-benefit analysis said they should be given first to high-risk populations like the elderly, where they had a huge chance of dying if they actually caught it.
Yet it's being pushed to vaccinate as many and as broadly as possible, with the goal being almost the entire population being vaccinated--and then doing that yearly like we do for the flu.
And I know people like you are like "lol old people die who cares,"
Literally never said that. Nice job.
Nothing fucking happened.
Did you already
forget?
Public Information Officer for the Utah Department of Health said:
“There are very few contraindications to the current vaccines. They are incredibly effective and safe,” Jenny Johnson, Public Information Officer for the Utah Department of Health, says. [A contraindication is a specific situation in which a drug, procedure, or surgery should not be used because it may be harmful to the person] However, in rare cases, people may experience side effects following their first dose of the vaccine that indicate they should not receive the second dose. Johnson says those who are allergic to any ingredients in the vaccine and those who have had an immediate allergic reaction after the first dose, should not receive the second dose.
“If you are worried about anything else (like an underlying medical condition or if you had an allergic reaction to a different vaccine, we recommend you talk with your doctor)” she states. Those who are currently sick with COVID-19 need to wait until they are symptom-free and no longer in isolation before getting the vaccine, Johnson adds.
Now that's Johnson&Johnson (Jenny Johnson not related lol) and was during the big scare which caused the FDA to put that vaccine on hold for a week to investigate before eventually reauthorizing it. However, the concern was not illegitimate since it did cause death as I recall from the first video
I posted from yet another doctor and expert in his field discussing the risks vs the risk inherent in something like a Tetanus shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyPjAfNNA-U&t=1s
And if it was all just "We vax the old and helped them! What's wrong with that?" EDIT: Then is Pfizer reaching for FDA authorization to vaccinate children as young as 2yrs old? Are two year olds and eleven year olds elderly, too?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/health/pfizer-vaccine-children-approval.html
EDIT:
https://archive.is/4tVCq (CNN: Pfizer to seek authorization for COVID-19 vaccine for children ages 2 to 11 in September)
Initially:
"But we've had kids who got sick, too!" You might say, but then you'd have to actually research 1) how many did get sick, 2) how many recovered, and 3) The rationality of vaccinating a kid who is unlikely to contract or die from the virus with an experimental (look it up) vaccine that hasn't been tested (especially for long-term effects) like every other vaccines?
Again, what was my original point?
Short: Concern against or about the Covid vaccines and the background information about them is valid and not just the babbling of vaccine abolitionists or scare mongers.
And from every single post I have made in this thread, I have proven that. You have not proven the contrary at all, have not even addressed the information I provided. You keep lumping me in with people I'm not aligned with and accusing me of argumentation I don't make.
I really expected better of you. I've seen better of you, but this is stupidity. This is the result of refusing to read, let alone consider and address, factual information of any kind that's contrary to your worldview. This is just the result of blind devotion.
CoVid killed more people in one year in the US than the flu did in the last three years.
Covid was as deadly as it was firstly because we didn't know what/how about the virus and secondly because of the co-morbidity factors
Taken from another article:
“CDC just backpedaled (quietly) and adjusted the U.S. COVID deaths from 153,504 to 9,210. Admitting that their numbers are so (expletive) that they are off by a whopping 94%,” said a post being shared on Facebook Monday.
But such claims misrepresent the data. A death isn’t excluded from the COVID-19 tally just because the person was obese or had diabetes or dementia.
[...]
"The underlying cause of death is the condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person’s death," Dr. Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work, said in a statement. “In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause of death."
This does not mean the virus was not deadly or that it does not have a real danger about it, but it does mean it's not the Black Death. The vast majority of those who died from Covid19 are people who were not healthy to begin with or who were already at risk of something else. Another factor to consider is that during this time, if someone dies of pneumonia but upon their death they test positive for SARS-Cov-2 (despite not having Covid19 the disease) then it will be registered as a Covid death with co-morbidity pneumonia. That's also what causes confusion.
Again, though, I don't think it's a kooky mass conspiracy but simply some of the many gray areas of cataloging death and statistics with things like this.
Point is, we know much more about the virus and the effect related to it and there's no reason--unless you have certain risk factors--to be worried about it anymore. Concerned, sure, but not anxious or worried.
