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Nowhere did I say we should ban doxing. I did say twice that my comments were making no value judgement. The ethics of doxing are tricky and for me depend on the circumstances. Doxing the Youtube communist begging for superchats while living in a multi-million home(s)? Cool. Doxing a nobody who happens to have a bad take on something for no other reason than a "I know where you live now!" intimidation flex? Not cool. But that's just me and I don't make that call. I guess if you allow one you have to allow the other? Not sure, the ethics of doxing are tricky.
Here's the ethics for this example.
Doxing Hasan and identifying his home and other amenities is justified because it is used to prove that he is being hypocritical to his own political beliefs.
Doxing some random chickenshit with a bad take is not justified because it proves that the doxxer likely did it out of retaliation towards what they might have just said, as if to win an argument or to shut them up.
 
Hey dickhead I've asked 3 times now for 90% of threads what comedy value does the person's address and phone number add? What is the actual use of posting that info?
You've been given a number of reasons that you've outright rejected, but here are some more, not that they'll make any difference to you.

1. Having a complete record is important. You never know what data may come in handy. Which leads to:
2. Data always leads to more data. You may not always have the complete picture. You may find a completely new account with hilarious shit because they posted their phone number twice, or posted other information which makes it clear that it is in fact the same person. This has happened a number of times and led to really funny shit. Unless I'm mistaken, I believe GAY MUPPET GANGBANGS was found this way.
 
Banning doxing is gay and retarded.

Sure, it's petty to dox someone over some bullshit they posted on Twitter. But it's all publicly accessible. It shouldn't matter that it's mean or not morally justifiable, this is a fucking gossip site where people throw slurs around like candy. If it stands up in an American court of law I don't see why we should be banning anything* on this site dedicated to archiving and exposing the dirty laundry of washed up e-celebs and pedophiles.

*as in any form of speech or potentially valuable information. i am not arguing for illegal content, fedposting or porn spam.
 
Nowhere did I say we should ban doxing.
I was just disagreeing with your statement that maybe I took too literally, because your statement literally meant "they can't claim we did the SWATting if we don't allow doxing", because oh lawdy they certainly can and will do just that.
I thought it was pretty clear the part I was disagreeing with but perhaps not. -_-
 
I don't...necessarily agree with self-censoring on principle but I understand the pragmatism involved with this decision and I'll keep it shut for the time being. They'll eat themselves and we'll be back up eventually. I trust that you'll do what you can, Null.

Please take care of yourself and your family. You do a service for us that none will, you have my sympathies and support.
 
I was just disagreeing with your statement that maybe I took too literally, because your statement literally meant "they can't claim we did the SWATting if we don't allow doxing", because oh lawdy they certainly can and will do just that.
I thought it was pretty clear the part I was disagreeing with but perhaps not. -_-
I would argue banning doxing now would just make the site look guilty of something. We've done nothing wrong and especially nothing illegal. These retards just have negative opsec skills
 
I've been lurking this forum for 4 years, made an account this year (I think? Don't remember and can't be bothered to check), and this will be my first post on the forum (better late than never).

My thoughts are with Josh's family and his own well-being. I don't see eye to eye often with this individual but it's important that everyone take some time off to lick their wounds and later regroup.

I don't remember why I started typing or what I was going to say really. It was just a compulsion to just post something in the middle of all of this, I guess. Or maybe just feeling the catharsis of being able to post somewhere freely where some people might throw banter at me but at least I know I won't be banned for my keyboard diarrhea. I dunno....

Josh, there may be sleeper accounts here, but this one at least is a quiet lurker that has been rooting for ya.
I'm much the same. Though I made an account a bit earlier and have been meaning to post more but never really round to it. That being said, I totally understand why I'd be viewed with suspicion now.
 
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It's impressive how weeks of tranny screeching brought the site on its knees. All of the defenders of """free speech""" have cucked out.
The site could go back on the clear-net if it censors anything anti-trans. Some people still haven't realized how powerful trannies are, they're the chosen people of the internet.
Instead of circumcision they prefer mutilation.
 
Banning doxing is gay and retarded.

Sure, it's petty to dox someone over some bullshit they posted on Twitter. But it's all publicly accessible. It shouldn't matter that it's mean or not morally justifiable, this is a fucking gossip site where people throw slurs around like candy. If it stands up in an American court of law I don't see why we should be banning anything* on this site dedicated to archiving and exposing the dirty laundry of washed up e-celebs and pedophiles.

*as in any form of speech or potentially valuable information. i am not arguing for illegal content, fedposting or porn spam.
The "publicly accessible" part is another I struggle with. If the twitter user in your example is stupid with his info sure. But the doxes that are uncovered through autistic connect-the-dots with a half-dozen other accounts spanning a decade from when the person was 12 or some shit? Cringy, and those are the ones most celebrated. The question for me isn't whether its legal or if you can, its if you should. And for what purpose? The intimidation flex is a big one for me.

It's an important discussion. Not whether it should be allowed/banned, just the general ethics of it and from a PR standpoint the optics.
 
I was just disagreeing with your statement that maybe I took too literally, because your statement literally meant "they can't claim we did the SWATting if we don't allow doxing", because oh lawdy they certainly can and will do just that.
I thought it was pretty clear the part I was disagreeing with but perhaps not. -_-
I said it would be harder to make the accusations stick not that they wouldn't still screech the accusations. They're always going to do that.
 
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So no more Russell Greer or any legal cow threads, because all their legal documents have their "dox" in them. No more "Ethan Ralph claims to be a baller but here's his real house and he lives in a slum." Basically nothing that makes the site a repository of actual information. Why even bother having the site at that point? Just shut it down. That will get rid of any "Achilles heel."
My issue during all of this is that no legal action has been taken, but precedent has been set. DDoS attacks will be allowed if a site is unsavory, DDoS Protection is effectively a private security company that will abandon you at the first sight of mean words if Janke isn't involved.

For the life of me I love how a weirdo who makes claims about sending HRT to kids, raping peoples mothers, and has claimed to have gotten people deplatformed is allowed to go on public televison. The worst thing is that some weirdo's like the one who is trying to get Rekieta banned will cover for them and play devil's advocate to them. The Catboy ranch stuff even if they didn't have anyone 18+ (which I doubt and don't doubt for a second they'll bully detractors who were underage into silence) it was gross sexual degeneracy that reminds me of that weird cult on r9k that had the tranny self-harm.

This is a site originally made to document a retard who, unprovoked, drank his own semen mixed with Fanta. Doxing is something that I disagree on, but more on the level that you shouldn't be a retard about your personal life on the internet. I don't say thing around my parents that I say around my friends for a reason, I don't say things on the internet I'd say in real life no matter what alias I use.
Null can be fucking retarded and say inflammatory and racist shit, but this whole thing has been taking a CANADIAN at their word. That's the worst part, it's A FUCKING LEAF. Those faggots are worse then the British when it comes to having actual rights. The UN human rights council could declare that you have to kill your firstborn son or otherwise it's agaisnt human rights and they'd do it. The insane tranny commie shit doesn't bug me as much as it being a fucking leaf pedo.
 
The "publicly accessible" part is another I struggle with. If the twitter user in your example is stupid with his info sure. But the doxes that are uncovered through autistic connect-the-dots with a half-dozen other accounts spanning a decade from when the person was 12 or some shit? Cringy, and those are the ones most celebrated.
This is all still perfectly legal though. If I post a picture showing part of my neighborhood on a 13 year old forum account, than a picture from a different angle showing just enough of the same neighborhood today for some autist on the Internet to easily deduce my neighborhood than what's to stop anyone from doing it besides the desire and willpower?

The question for me isn't whether its legal or if you can, its if you should. And for what purpose? The intimidation flex is a big one for me.
For what purpose is any cow here doxed outside of the confirmed pedophiles and zoosadists? There's no real moral argument to it in my opinion, people dox cows because it gets a rise out of them when it is far more likely than not to never escalate beyond people sending them pizza or hookers.

Not whether it should be allowed/banned, just the general ethics of it and from a PR standpoint the optics.
Optics to who? Let's assume doxing is outright banned on this site and all doxes not on confirmed criminals are taken down. That will change nobody's minds. The Twitter trannies are still going to hate us for daring to call them men, the media outlets they've infested are still going to smear us as hardcore Nazi white supremacists, the lolcows are still going to cry victim and claim we want to hurt or kill them. There's no reason to try and look good at this point. The best we can do is what we always have, tell fedposters/weens to fuck off and laugh at the cows without ever interfering with their lives. At least that way the site remains legal as it always has, despite the numerous attempts to portray it as anything but.
 
For what purpose is any cow here doxed outside of the confirmed pedophiles and zoosadists?
That's exactly why recently I was very glad to provide updated info on a pedo that had gone incognito for a couple years.
I do think it's something that everyone should keep in mind, if it's something that isn't done for laughs then it certainly should be done with some real justification. But for a lot of sick fucks, there is endless justification of doxxing them, and I'll never abide someone saying "nah but the optics are bad" -- nope, screw that logic.
 
So while you guys keep on coping and doom-posting, I took a peek over at the sister site to find something interesting. Throw me alarm clocks my way if late, hell the mods are free to delete this post if it goes against the featured content's message. A certain Blaine Gaven Ross claims to be responsible for swatting Marjorie Taylor Greene via a threatening robo-call, whilst falsely claiming to be @AltisticRight. Make of that as you wish. Another countless example of an unhinged lolcow going haywire with power.

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Keffals mentioned on the victory stream having info that'll take down Josh. Might be this Elaine individual.

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I think it would be wise to purge old, unused accounts. Sure not all are there for malicious purposes and we can easily get some innocents, but if they're not using their accounts anyway there's no problem imo.

Your justifications are just spergy bullshit. It doesn't matter what justifications you come up with, and again it doesn't matter that it's legal (many, many people erroneously think it's illegal) the doxing makes people hate us who might otherwise be sympathetic or not care. We're trying to win public opinion, not an argument here.
Public opinion isn't going to do shit, we're not talking about a large-scale public backlash but rather a small group of retarded trannies who'll want the site gone no matter what we do. We could become the number 1 LGBT site and ban people from talking about anyone but straggots and they'll still hate us. Ultimately we just need reliable, effective protection.
 
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I feel for Josh. he has no one to help him in these trying times currently *sigh*

while I don't mind being in our lil kiwi cave to do what we normally do. It definitely leaves a sour taste with how the internet will evolve going forward and how no one else besides us and other niche forums care. But i have some hope people will say enough is enough
 
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