2020 Oscars Discussion - complain about how Uncut Gems nor the Lighthouse weren't nominated here

I miss when the Oscars had an actual host, it's a lot more boring without one.

Anyway glad Phoenix won best actor, but his speech had some cringey moments, especially the part about cows, but he also made some good points and you could tell it was really heartfelt, so it's ok.

I was definitely not expecting Parasite to win best picture.
 
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Crescent Fresh said:
Parasite has reached the point for me where it’s so ridiculously overhyped that it makes me actively not want to watch it because it can never live up to the expectations that people have set it up for.

It certainly doesn’t help that the most glowing praise I see regarding it always comes from the most insufferable types of people.
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There is a small "omg, it was made by non-white people, so cute!" vibe around it, especially from ultra woke people. Followed by people from the other side of the progressive spectrum saying "stop being so paternalist about it!".
 
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Man, I really wanted Irishman to at least win something. Best adapted screenplay at least. Best picture? Eh. Neither it nor Joker deserved it, and Joaquin’s performance was literally the only good thing about the latter. Pacino as Hoffa sold the Irishman for me, but he’s only in about 1/3 of it, and the rest is just De Niro as a sad old man.
 
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Man, I really wanted Irishman to at least win something. Best adapted screenplay at least. Best picture? Eh. Neither it nor Joker deserved it, and Joaquin’s performance was literally the only good thing about the latter. Pacino as Hoffa sold the Irishman for me, but he’s only in about 1/3 of it, and the rest is just De Niro as a sad old man.
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Eh, I liked it but it wasn't that great. Pacino was good but not amazing, and the other performances were fine but nothing exceptional either. In all other respects it was equally adequate, with some of the writing feeling bloated and aimless at times. I can understand it not winning anything, even disregarding Scorsese's feuding with the Academy.
 
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I'm going to rent Parasite as soon as it comes to a local Redbox, just so I can hear the bafflement in the boomer's parents voices.

"Why do I need to read subtitles? Why can't we watch it dubbed?"

Because dubs suck, nerds.
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Maybe we can dub it and change the dialogue, story and tone while we’re at it like this:




While we’re at it we could change the title like “Close Encounters Of the Attack Of the Rise Of the Revenge Of the Beginning Of the Last Of the End Of the Death Of the Rebirth Of the Rebuild Of the Return Of the Resurrection Of the Parasitic Socio Corporate Capitalistic Demonic Damned Axe Wielding Body Swapping Terminating Transforming Two Face Joker Gangnam Style Psycho Zombie Alien Predator Clowns From Outer Space Goes Hawaiian Takes Manhattan The Prequel in 2-D dubbed in Esperanto and Whatever Dialect in the English Language that ends with Dude”.
 
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honestly a lot of the wins and praise towards Parasite sorta feel the typical "wee look at the poor brown people winning, look how not racist I am guys for cheering on yellow people, take that white scum like me!" liberal drivel that's incredibly patronizing. you just feel these guys say it to not seem racist and yet in two years they'll forget all about that film, they don't actually care about the quality of the film but it's all to fuel their ego and to smear on "white guy faves" (Joker?)
 
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They care so much about Korean cinema that they ignored everything produced by this country since forever! Seriously, this year was the very first time, and it happened because the director has the connections (he directed a bunch of mostly mediocre American films).

Look at The Handmaiden, for example, zero nominations. Is there anyone crazy enough here who thinks fucking Parasite is a better movie than The Handmaiden?

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There is a small "omg, it was made by non-white people, so cute!" vibe around it, especially from ultra woke people.
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They have never watched a Korean movie in their entire lives, I can guarantee it to you.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
I miss when the Oscars had an actual host, it's a lot more boring without one.

Anyway glad Phoenix won best actor, but his speech had some cringey moments, especially the part about cows, but he also made some good points and you could tell it was really heartfelt, so it's ok.

I was definitely not expecting Parasite to win best picture.
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So we finally found a worse thing to talk about during your acceptance speech than Trump. Whoopie.

I’m so disappointed Klaus didn’t win Best Animated Feature.
 
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I had a faint hope they might give HTTYD an Oscar as it was the last in the trilogy, but no. Then again I didn't think 3 was as strong as 2, which lost to Big Hero 6- which was another suckup to Disney. I would've been fine with Klaus winning it too, they took risks in their animation.
 
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They have never watched a Korean movie in their entire lives, I can guarantee it to you
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I actually doubt that. A lot of fairly casual moviegoers know Oldboy and Hollywood did make that awful adaptation, so it wouldn't surprise me if quite a few in that room were familiar with that at least.

Wasn't The Departed a shot-for-shot remake of a Korean or Chinese movie as well?
 
Two statements keep coming up each year with the Oscars. Oscars are bought and paid for and the majority of voters are old and set in their ways. There were rumors about Netflix spending up to $100m on campaigning for their eight films, up for 24 awards, and across 17 of 24 categories https://observer.com/2020/02/netflix-budget-oscar-campaigns-irishman-marriage-story/. Netflix denies these estimates https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/n...0-million-irishman-marriage-story-1202208646/. This is a conundrum between those two statements since Netflix is look down on by old media and being the ones to have spent the most money. Here are the films of Netflix originals nominated by title, [number of nominations], and (awards received).
  • The Irishman[10]
  • Marriage Story[6] (best supporting actress)
  • Two Popes[3]
  • Klaus[1]
  • I Lost My Body[1]
  • American Factory [1](best documentary)
  • The Edge of Democracy[1]
  • Life Overtakes Me[1]
Out of those 17 categories Netflix got two awards. Showing that money, with high estimates, does not buy Oscars. If Netflix spent $5m per movie with one nomination and $20m per movie with multiple awards that would still come out to $85m. These figures per movie very wildly between sources. The cleanest breakdown of cost and statistics is from 2015 https://stephenfollows.com/much-hollywood-campaigns-oscar-cost/ (with dead links to citations). In the breakdown it implies the way to win is to make sure the movie is the one in the front of a voter's mind to get the nomination. As well as 'other' spending to secure the Oscar. Both Joker and Parasite were released in October and Irishman had its qualifying Oscar release in November.
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What are everyone's theories on how so much money converted into so few awards for Netflix? Did the South Korean CJ Entertainment spend money, if so how much, to get the Oscars? Most curious is what does the 'other' spending go towards to get an Oscar after its nomination? Lastly with 10 nominations and zero awards will the person in charge of The Irishman Oscars campaign lose their job?
 
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