Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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Eren Yeager's Seiyuu, Yuki Kaji, made this statement in regards to Eren in Chapter 139:

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Is he trying to one-up Troy Baker saying dumb as fuck shit while trying too hard to defend TLOU2?
 
Not really because in Japan, Attack on Titan's ending is more liked even if it also had some division, but that's mostly because endings aren't as big of a deal to the Japanese as it is to the West.
Honestly, I think it’s never really understood just how different the fandoms of anime and manga are in regards to Japan and the West.
 
Well, that was always inevitable; Light was never going to live forever.
Funnily enough, Light himself even acknowledges this when Ryuk first offers him the eye deal. His response is explicitly that it's out of the question because he "intends to rule the world for a long time".

With that in mind, it does make you wonder what would've happened if he had known that society would just go back to the way it was before after he was gone, and how that possibly might've changed his plans, especially in the latter part of the series.
 
So glad I dropped this show, even thought I loved the first few seasons.

So we end a season with a guy having a little girl ripped to death by dogs, and everyone having a laugh about it, because they all hate that group.

Next season, said group is bitching at Eren, because he killed some of the people who thought that was funny.

Yeah, I was done, but I knew how the manga ended at that point as well. The stupidity that you could control and oppress people who could transform into weapons of war was just icing on the cake.

edit: I do not know or care if any of that was explained, because it seems like the people who kept watching can't either.
 
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With that in mind, it does make you wonder what would've happened if he had known that society would just go back to the way it was before after he was gone, and how that possibly might've changed his plans, especially in the latter part of the series.
He would probably just let others carry on the torch, like how Near did for L. He'd likely either raise a son for that purpose or hand-pick a successor like Mikami.
 
I think the ending would've been better if Eren actually succeeded in wiping out the rest of humanity and then go back to Paradis to face judgement from his friends, I say this because weirdly enough, Total Non-Eldian Death was the only viable and logical solution to Eren and the people of Paradis, the other 2 possible solutions are Zeke's plan of just cucking out and dying and Armin's meme idea of just politely telling the rest of the world that the Eldian race isn't a race of demons and then hope to be taken seriously and get invaded immediatly.

The way I see it is that Isayama wanted to tackle a bunch of things in a certain way but changed his mind near the last minute, Eren and Mikasa doing a complete 180 in their core character traits, Historia just... not doing anything really, Ymir having a weird case of Stockholm syndrome for King Fritz and how no one even brings it up and other things like that, and to me, the most bizarre thing is how the final scenes of the ending prove that wiping out the rest of the world was the correct choice because Paradis gets destroyed and some random kid is about to obtain the power of the Titans, heavily implying that everything that happened before will happen again because the cycle of violence remains unbroken.

Now of course, it was obvious from the start that AoT wasn't going to have a happy ending where Eren and Mikasa settle down in a farm and live out a happy and wholesome life but come on man, the ending we got wasn't even bittersweet it was just retarded.
 
But "I made a carbon copy of a book with thousands (if not tens of thousands) of names, overnight after looting it and planting it from a bank offscreen while you weren't watching" is pure bullshit because at that point you basically have fucking superpowers.
Yeah, pretty much, the sheer logistics of the process is just too expansive when you consider the implications. They'd need to match the weight, texture, etc of the notebook on top of perfectly replicating his handwriting.

It makes me wonder if that was just a lie, it might track with Near using the Death Note. They just steal the book, write Mikami's name and that he doesn't notice the book is fake. Either way it's not a very good plot point.

I think the ending would've been better if Eren actually succeeded in wiping out the rest of humanity and then go back to Paradis to face judgement from his friends, I say this because weirdly enough, Total Non-Eldian Death was the only viable and logical solution to Eren and the people of Paradis, the other 2 possible solutions are Zeke's plan of just cucking out and dying and Armin's meme idea of just politely telling the rest of the world that the Eldian race isn't a race of demons and then hope to be taken seriously and get invaded immediatly.
The Rumbling being carried out to completion would be more satisfying, but almost too simple, even with the interesting dynamics of Yaegerists vs traitors and Eren's personal relationships being strained. I suspect that's why Isayama complicated things, to be different and spice things up with a discount M. Night Shyamalan twist.

to me, the most bizarre thing is how the final scenes of the ending prove that wiping out the rest of the world was the correct choice because Paradis gets destroyed and some random kid is about to obtain the power of the Titans, heavily implying that everything that happened before will happen again because the cycle of violence remains unbroken.
I've seen some YouTubers actually simp for this, like it's poetic or something, and they even try this weird cope of "well, Eren ensured his friends lived out happy lives even if Paradis was later destroyed". But they try to have their cake and eat it too, praising that his plan "worked" but also condemning him for wiping out much of the world. How else could he have even secured as much time for them as he did then? Peace talks?

That peace talk bullshit is so funny. No, peace was never attainable for Paradis. If them losing their trump card, the Titans, and betraying their own nation and hero to save the rest of the world STILL wasn't enough to prove they're not devils to the world, and didn't do anything but delay their demise, then I'd love to hear how peace talks could've been achieved while they still had their Titans and the world hated them. Not happening.

Now of course, it was obvious from the start that AoT wasn't going to have a happy ending where Eren and Mikasa settle down in a farm and live out a happy and wholesome life but come on man, the ending we got wasn't even bittersweet it was just retarded.
Actually, there was an ending where that could happen, and it's Zeke's cuck plan. It isn't the ending I'd choose, but could've been marginally more satisfying than what we got. Seeing the Eldians live out their lives peacefully but coping with that situation would've been that bittersweet ending, both sides technically get what they want and nobody is killed. Still pretty fucked up but the plan is growing on me.
 
The only fucking sensible ending to AoT from the moment the Rumbling Began was for Eren to realize that he was perpetuating the cycle of Violence that had been repeating for Generations and the ONLY WAY to break it was to straight up erase the Titans from Existence by telling Ymir to burn the tree down.
 
The only fucking sensible ending to AoT from the moment the Rumbling Began was for Eren to realize that he was perpetuating the cycle of Violence that had been repeating for Generations and the ONLY WAY to break it was to straight up erase the Titans from Existence by telling Ymir to burn the tree down.
BUT DUDE! ISAYAMA WATCHED GAME OF THRONES! GAME! OF! THRONES!
 
I've seen some YouTubers actually simp for this, like it's poetic or something, and they even try this weird cope of "well, Eren ensured his friends lived out happy lives even if Paradis was later destroyed". But they try to have their cake and eat it too, praising that his plan "worked" but also condemning him for wiping out much of the world. How else could he have even secured as much time for them as he did then? Peace talks?
I think the argument Isayama wanted to go for, which Armin actually uses is that destroying the World's navies would have been more than enough to buy the people of Paradis time, since even loosing one battleship would have been enough to economically devastate a country, let alone the whole fleet. If Eren had simply stopped there and Paradis used the threat of future Rumblings to threaten the world into peace via superior firepower, it would allowed for peace long enough for Paradis to catch up technologically. That seemed to be the argument that he was shooting for at any rate.

That peace talk bullshit is so funny. No, peace was never attainable for Paradis. If them losing their trump card, the Titans, and betraying their own nation and hero to save the rest of the world STILL wasn't enough to prove they're not devils to the world, and didn't do anything but delay their demise, then I'd love to hear how peace talks could've been achieved while they still had their Titans and the world hated them. Not happening.
This was always the most illogical part of the story. There is no reason for everyone to hate Paradis as much as they do (at least, till Eren gave them a reason to hate them). They have plenty of reason to hate Marley, for their warmongering ways, but the people of Paradis have literally done nothing but live on their little island for at least a century. Having a nation hostile to Marley with its own Titans and a desire to peacefully live with the rest of the world could have been a boon to them.

The ending with Eren would have made sense if Paradis was actually on the verge of signing a peace treaty with the rest of the world, but Eren, due to spending his life fighting people beyond the walls comes to irrationally see everybody outside of Paradis as a threat, and creates the not-fascist Eldian nationalist faction as a result, working to scuttle the peace deal by going full Titan mode in the middle of the talks. For one, it give Historia something to actually do, since she would almost certainly lead the talks. Second, it would actually give the world a reason to hate Paradis, since we are having Eren murder world leaders at a peace summit. Third, it would make it clear that Eren is the bad guy and the one that is pushing forward the cycle of violence, and it fits in with his hot-headed, never think things through personality. You can also throw revenge in there as well; Eren wants revenge on Marley for killing his mom (he doesn't kill his mom here), and he wants a war with them right now to push their shit in and wipe them out. Zeke is actually caught off guard, since he was at the talks to negotiate that most of the Eldians outside Paradis would eventually move to the island, like a Jewish Diaspora return to Israel situation, so Eren's involvement forces his hand and forces him to go with his second plan.
 
This was always the most illogical part of the story. There is no reason for everyone to hate Paradis as much as they do (at least, till Eren gave them a reason to hate them). They have plenty of reason to hate Marley, for their warmongering ways, but the people of Paradis have literally done nothing but live on their little island for at least a century. Having a nation hostile to Marley with its own Titans and a desire to peacefully live with the rest of the world could have been a boon to them.
The thing is the world does hate Marley, which is why they need to roll out the Token Eldian the world likes since everyone really likes him, and the threat of Eren going full retard on the world was strong to make the world hate the Island.

However, I do agree that the rest of what you put would make a better story especially since Isayama basically was rushing anything since he didn't have any breaks between the end of the Return to Shingashina arc and the timeskip.
 
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