Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I only recall the U grade being used to basically decide whether or not to enter kids for their GCSEs.

It might have been something else in various places I just know it was called U grade in my local schools authority.

My apologies for saying that Chris’ school years were “ages ago”.

Oh no that's fine I know I'm a old Git by forum standards and my school years are now measured in Decades ago rather than anything else.

A good night out for me is a film, restaurant and then back home by 10 for a cup of Tea and snuggling with my better 3/4's with the dog in front of the fire.

Anyhow, it isn’t clear what Chris is talking about in this case, whether it is a failing grade all together or if it is just an assignment. I just found it poignant because it is most likely the earliest example of him using his autism as a shield/defense. The F couldn’t be the result of him not doing adequate work, no, it has to be because the teacher hates autistic people.

I honestly think from looking at his work that Garbage Raider got his mits on he just turned in crappy work and because of his conditions they didn't put any effort into teaching him where he was wrong and quietly ignored that his better work done at home was likely Bob's handywork just to get him out there class.

Chris was told from a young age he was special and because he's special people wont like him for it and used it as a shield to avoid criticism or people trying to force him into doing something he wasn't all that interested in, anecdotally the one kid I knew in school who would get the U mark in English was given special alternatives to reading certain books as part of his English course work and chose Harry Potter and some other Teen / YA story he was into and used that and chimped out when his fan fiction wasn't accepted as part of his work and he got suspended for a month because of it.

 

[FinnSven]

It might have been something else in various places I just know it was called U grade in my local schools authority.



Oh no that's fine I know I'm a old Git by forum standards and my school years are now measured in Decades ago rather than anything else.

A good night out for me is a film, restaurant and then back home by 10 for a cup of Tea and snuggling with my better 3/4's with the dog in front of the fire.



I honestly think from looking at his work that Garbage Raider got his mits on he just turned in crappy work and because of his conditions they didn't put any effort into teaching him where he was wrong and quietly ignored that his better work done at home was likely Bob's handywork just to get him out there class.

Chris was told from a young age he was special and because he's special people wont like him for it and used it as a shield to avoid criticism or people trying to force him into doing something he wasn't all that interested in, anecdotally the one kid I knew in school who would get the U mark in English was given special alternatives to reading certain books as part of his English course work and chose Harry Potter and some other Teen / YA story he was into and used that and chimped out when his fan fiction wasn't accepted as part of his work and he got suspended for a month because of it.

Edit: sorry for the off topic sperging about the UK educational system in the 90s!

Yes it was a grade, as in “ungraded”.

The only thing lower was X which indicates that the student failed to attend the final exam or hand in any coursework.

Theoretically a student, even of the dumbest variety, could achieve a G grade, the lowest “passing” grade by attending, filling in their name and then proceeding to get every single question wrong.
This was on the basis of trying and failing is better than not even trying.

The U would be put if all the student could successfully do is put their name on the paper.

A U or an X “grades” would cost the school money because the LEA would not grant them the funding for paying for that paper. One or two, sure, a school can eat that, and that is what is expected in most schools, but 7-9 papers not being paid for could be a bit of an issue.

Schools like all government funded institutions benefit from spending more rather than less.
A student being that terrible might look like an invented student or a student who moved schools which they “forgot” to account for.

As such, if a student got a U in mocks, and was consistently terrible, they would find themselves not entered.
The average dumb kid, that would be one or two subjects, as schools are normally sympathetic enough to at least give even a thickie a chance at getting enough grades to do a college course in glass sorting or leisure and tourism.

Source, with mild PL;

Child of two teachers who once divorced went on to marry further teachers.
My frank irish mother was more than happy to explain how and why kids were entered into exams and some not.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

@Pointless Sperg If this is the case, there's no way Chris is going to prison for any substantial amount of time. Incest is so horrific that normies would instinctively question the sanity of the participants in an attempt to attribute it to mental illness as they cannot comprehend how a sane person could do it. Conveniently for Chris, he is clearly mentally ill, and so the normies have their scapegoat. The people involved with Chris's legal case aren't Christorians and don't know the details about Chris's relationship with Barb, to them, it would seem like an obvious case of the crime happened because he was mentally ill.

They don't have to show him mercy, it's just an option that they can consider. In this case it's mostly based on whether he's at risk of reoffending and if, with proper care, he can stay out of trouble in general.

It's an attempt to find a middle ground between completely nuthouse fruitbat and being considered completely responsible for your actions as a sound-minded individual.

Again it's not new, this kind of thing used to be an option until the late-70's/early-80's, but it was revoked pretty much everywhere in the zeal to punish the evil that took hold around that time, peaking in the 90's. It was a time when society collectively A-logged.

I think it's clear that it's appropriate to treat Chris as a tard. He is not the sort of criminal that consciously tries to achieve personal gain without getting caught. Even stupid criminals normally at least have a *rational* plan that they're just too dumb to formulate and execute on. They're dumb and they get caught.

Or to put it another way, regular criminals usually do things that in some way make their lives better if they don't get caught. They get money from robbing a store, or they get pussy from raping an attractive woman, or they murder someone who is causing problems for their illegal business, etc.

Chris' illegal and immoral acts gain him nothing. It's not just that he breaks the law, but he breaks the law in retarded ways. A non-retarded person would never commit the crimes he does. Maybe the shoplifting, if it actually happened, but if he was shoplifting retarded pony shit then even that might not count.

So yeah, I think it's appropriate to not hold Chris to the same level of responsibility as someone who isn't retarded. But similarly I think he shouldn't have the same level of freedom -- just something more nuanced and less restrictive than prison.

It's beginning to look like there won't even be a trial.

It was never likely that there would be a trial, not even when we thought they were going the indictment route. At that point it just went from almost certainly not going to happen, to holy shit there's a small chance that it might happen.

How he passed the written part of the test is a mystery.

Chris has the ability to memorize things when it's something he gives a shit about. He still has that aspect of autism, just a more stupid form where he has to be *really* invested in something for him to pay attention, as opposed to the brand of nerdsperg that I have where I click the random article button on Wikipedia for fun.

When the stars align enough for Chris to apply himself he can actually reach a level that could be called competent. It's just fleetingly rare. Chris is stupid, but only mildly so. His retardation isn't extremely low intelligence, it's extremely low capacity to activate and apply it. It doesn't make him unbelievably stupid, just unbelievably foolish.

Or to put it in sperg terms. INT maybe 8 or 9, WIS somewhere between 3 and 5.

He probably failed it a couple of times until his deep seated desire to be able to drive to the GAMe PLACe whenever he wanted prompted him to memorize enough to barely pass. The written tests in most states have a few difficult questions, but not enough to make it particularly difficult to get a passing grade.

As such, if a student got a U in mocks, and was consistently terrible, they would find themselves not entered.

Some schools in the US, particularly colleges/universities, have an "I" grade, meaning "Incomplete". It's not that you were terrible at the material, it's just that you didn't do it.

 

[AnOminous]

Only an MD/DO can give a diagnosis of autism and that traditionally falls under the auspice of Neurology.

That's the point isn't it? If he qualified for Social Security under a listed impairment of autism, it had to be supported by objective medical evidence of record. Unless you're claiming a chiropractor or a duck or some other quack gave him the diagnosis, he obviously was diagnosed.

It's an attempt to find a middle ground between completely nuthouse fruitbat and being considered completely responsible for your actions as a sound-minded individual.

And I don't think he's entitled to yet another dispensation for his awful behavior, autism or not. However, unlike an insanity defense, which if it convinces a fact-finder forces the issue, this is a discretionary choice more or less beyond review.

As irritating as it was to see him get away with all kinds of minor bullshit where he obviously knew he was doing something wrong, literally fucking his mom should have been the beyond the pale where he finally got punished. I suppose a year in jail is no picnic but the Teflon Tard still looks like he's going to walk again minimally impacted having spent a year with a better diet than he'd have had outside.

I guess he's the tard version of Sam Lowry in Brazil, except instead of going completely insane he went completely retarded and is now beyond reach.

 

[Shanndog]

If the Region 10 thing is accurate (I believe it is), these places are not like halfway houses. I gave the example of the one my friend was in where is almost the exact same type of service (in another state), despite being a felon and a recently released prisoner (but off parole), did not have much requirements except for no drug use and getting in before midnight and not to trash the place.

Chris isn't going to be able to 'get employment'. The man is not capable of holding a job, only some autistics are able to hold them, and they usually have to babied in them. He isn't just some normal IQ but lazy, man baby adult who needs to get a job. His ability for self improvement is not that great. His parents did him a huge disservice by not integrating him into these kinds of mental health services earlier, and preparing him for what happens when they won't be around anymore. Now he's having to kick start the process when he is over 40 and in a soon to be shaky living situation.

it varies from home to home, most group homes that deal with folks whoa re disabled and or mentally ill, are usually very strict and structured, the rehab and halfway houses are not as strict, but tard-homes usually are.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

I was doing some thinking. Going back to 14 BC, either if Chris goes back there (fat chance) or incest saga hadn't happened, and Chris stays in the house outright. Then Barb dies, and Chris is there, at least for awhile until he mismanages it (inevidible). One aspect I didn't think about before - I guarantee if that all happened, weens would weasel their way into 14 BC and move in with Chris (House of Weens?) and perhaps even take over the entire property. I've heard of instances like this happening before with mentally feeble or disabled people.

If Barb hasn't disinherited Chris (or if she dies intestate), it is definitely best for all parties for the house to be sold before her death and to pay for her care, and eventually Chris and Cole splitting what's left, with Chris's cut being put into some kind of account that is managed by the financial overseers I know that some SSI recipients have (He needs one), so that way it isn't squandered.

it varies from home to home, most group homes that deal with folks whoa re disabled and or mentally ill, are usually very strict and structured, the rehab and halfway houses are not as strict, but tard-homes usually are.

Without PL'ing too much, have family involved in the disabled ones (and I asked about it again this AM), it's the other way around - halfway houses are by far the most strict because they have literal parolees. They will send your ass back to prison in a New York Minute.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Chris was told from a young age he was special and because he's special people wont like him for it and used it as a shield to avoid criticism or people trying to force him into doing something he wasn't all that interested in, anecdotally the one kid I knew in school who would get the U mark in English was given special alternatives to reading certain books as part of his English course work and chose Harry Potter and some other Teen / YA story he was into and used that and chimped out when his fan fiction wasn't accepted as part of his work and he got suspended for a month because of it.

Imagine if Chris couldn't use sonichu for that CD cover project. I know he either wanted to use sonic or pikachu, and the teacher told him no, but there's no record of Chris chimping out when he was told that.

I was doing some thinking. Going back to 14 BC, either if Chris goes back there (fat chance) or incest saga hadn't happened, and Chris stays in the house outright. Then Barb dies, and Chris is there, at least for awhile until he mismanages it (inevidible). One aspect I didn't think about before - I guarantee if that all happened, weens would weasel their way into 14 BC and move in with Chris (House of Weens?) and perhaps even take over the entire property. I've heard of instances like this happening before with mentally feeble or disabled people.

If Barb hasn't disinherited Chris (or if she dies intestate), it is definitely best for all parties for the house to be sold before her death and to pay for her care, and eventually Chris and Cole splitting what's left, with Chris's cut being put into some kind of account that is managed by the financial overseers I know that some SSI recipients have (He needs one), so that way it isn't squandered.

This has been discussed before. If Chris did have ownership of the house, and the mortgage being paid in full, yes, weens could take advantage of Chris. Now, the house is still not paid off, and there is a likelihood of Chris being kicked out once Barb dies. Barb has made no will, and I don't think she plans to. I assume since Barb's sister and brother-in-law are taking over her affairs, they may convincer her of making a new will with them taking the house. Then again, as I've stated before, the house mortgage isn't paid, so Harriet and Tom would inherit the debt associated with 14BLC.

As far as Chris coming back, I assume he won't be mobbed by angry neighbors and the short time that he stays there, just to pick up whatever hasn't been stolen or sold of his, the house would be swarmed by weens asking about his time behind bars.

 

[Shanndog]

He may be 40 but I still think he looks at least 20 years older.

i think he looks young, he still resembles a prepubescent boy, the reason he looks ' older'' is because hes so unkempt and disheveled , but when he is clean, and has on clean clothes, hair is cut, groomed, and so forth, he looks like a very large boy, hell the guy still cant grow facial hair ! look at him before he grew his hair long and extra gross lol, he looks like a boy, he does not have the mature face of a man, or even the body structure, its just, its not only out of shape and in poor health, his body is quite under- developed for his actual physical age . but as a very unkempt, dirty person, that can make you look older, but if you really look at him you can still see his face, how under-developed he is.

Chris's lack of respect for boundaries and selfishness aren't that uncommon among some autistics. In fact I know one just a little younger than him that is very similar to Chris but not as exhibitionist. The provocative behavior I've seen before but mostly actually in female autistics, who have a separate problem - they are often promiscuous.

Just take it from someone who knows this field. There is no doubt that he is autistic although since I'm not examining him I can't tell you exactly how bad he is. Bad parenting and coddling but also the later exposure to weens brought out all the worst traits of his. Even though his parents were bad at their jobs, I noticed a lack of respect from Chris toward his parents. Particularly disgusting to me was seeing the letter where he says he cucked his own father.

giving birth does not make one a parent, nor does it automatically afford you respect, respect, and trust , is EARNED, and his so called parents are not worthy of any respect, or trust for that matter. that being said : chris chan has never respected anyone ! Even the people who gave him a baseline level of respect as a human being and genuinely tried to help him and do right by him, he did nothing but disrespect them, blow them off, shit talk them, then play the victim card.

I was doing some thinking. Going back to 14 BC, either if Chris goes back there (fat chance) or incest saga hadn't happened, and Chris stays in the house outright. Then Barb dies, and Chris is there, at least for awhile until he mismanages it (inevidible). One aspect I didn't think about before - I guarantee if that all happened, weens would weasel their way into 14 BC and move in with Chris (House of Weens?) and perhaps even take over the entire property. I've heard of instances like this happening before with mentally feeble or disabled people.

If Barb hasn't disinherited Chris (or if she dies intestate), it is definitely best for all parties for the house to be sold before her death and to pay for her care, and eventually Chris and Cole splitting what's left, with Chris's cut being put into some kind of account that is managed by the financial overseers I know that some SSI recipients have (He needs one), so that way it isn't squandered.



Without PL'ing too much, have family involved in the disabled ones (and I asked about it again this AM), it's the other way around - halfway houses are by far the most strict because they have literal parolees. They will send your ass back to prison in a New York Minute.

while some halfway houses are super strict, there are some that are pretty lax because they are on that whole '' trust system'' as far as getting people to think for themselves and practice self-discipline . but chris, id imagine, whether he goes to a tard home or a halfway house, he will be in a strict structured one most likely . ( we hope)

 

[BootlegPopeye]

This has been discussed before. If Chris did have ownership of the house, and the mortgage being paid in full, yes, weens could take advantage of Chris. Now, the house is still not paid off, and there is a likelihood of Chris being kicked out once Barb dies. Barb has made no will, and I don't think she plans to. I assume since Barb's sister and brother-in-law are taking over her affairs, they may convincer her of making a new will with them taking the house. Then again, as I've stated before, the house mortgage isn't paid, so Harriet and Tom would inherit the debt associated with 14BLC.

But that wouldn't resolve it. If she dies intestate (note since this is becoming a less common word - it means died without leaving a will), her heirs by default will be Chris and Cole; Cole would almost certainly want to cash out and be done with his family forever, which means Chris would have to buy his share. I think it's quite clear that there is no way he could maintain a mortgage, pay taxes, etc, etc that are involved in the upkeep of a house. I would give it less than a year before he loses it. He has to have someone manage his money or he will spend frivolously into the poor house, taking out endless loans, etc as he has done in the past.

I think Chris has matured as much as he ever will. Just as you'd never trust a 13 year old to manage more than a few hundred dollars at Christmas, Chris doesn't have the competency to do financial transactions in the 6 figures.

Awhile ago I met an autistic young man through a friend of my mothers, he 'owned' a house that was in his name but in reality managed by his brother who was normal. He lived alone and did not drive (in fact, I met him because I had to give a ride once), but his brother came by and did everything for him such as mowing the lawn. Something like that is the only way it would work for Chris, and we know Cole has no desire to be anywhere near any of them, let alone lift a finger for Chris.

 

[idosometimes]

People seem to misunderstand how a group home would work. Assisted living is expensive. Chris will not be flush with cash. He will have to contribute toward the cost of his care. He will have less pocket money than he has now. Maybe he can try to e-beg to get income that he hides from the state/agency/operator, but that is unlikely after the incestuous rape artist unpleasantness. That would also cause some issues regarding his obligations to the facility.
Chris will have to settle down into a much simpler life. Not just because of the money. Community-style assisted living only gives you so much space. Chris will not be able to collect loads of junk even if he could afford it.

Considering everyone here thinks that Chris having a roommate would go poorly, would the staff make an exception for him? Would they give him his own personal room once he rages at the other tards or no?

A bed in a community/assisted living place will run at least $200/night. Chris is not getting a private room unless Cole stops burning all his Carnigee Hall money and steps up to contribute.
If Chris "rages", he will be out on his ear. These places are not prisons and not required to hold violent or dangerous slow-in-the-minds. The rules will be clear as gosh-danged crystal. If Chris is a threat or requires a level of care that the staff level is unable to provide, he has to go.

There isn't going to be any contributing to anything; some states have rules about SSI payments contributing automatically a part of the 'rent' in a group home, but let's face it - Chris is essentially a ward of the state for the rest of his life (and therefore taxpayers are who are going to be paying that $200 a night for the next 40+ years).

I understand that. My point is that Chris is not going to be able to tantrum his way to a private room or better treatment. Floor space has value in these facilities. They do not give it away for free. His only way to a private room is private pay. He lacks the money to afford that. He is subsidized pay case until he dies. Acting out will only lead him out the door and maybe in the door to prison.

edit: I know that null says no angry posts, but I think the strong profanity I used in this post is justified.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

But that wouldn't resolve it. If she dies intestate (note since this is becoming a less common word - it means died without leaving a will), her heirs by default will be Chris and Cole; Cole would almost certainly want to cash out and be done with his family forever, which means Chris would have to buy his share. I think it's quite clear that there is no way he could maintain a mortgage, pay taxes, etc, etc that are involved in the upkeep of a house. I would give it less than a year before he loses it. He has to have someone manage his money or he will spend frivolously into the poor house, taking out endless loans, etc as he has done in the past.

I think Chris has matured as much as he ever will. Just as you'd never trust a 13 year old to manage more than a few hundred dollars at Christmas, Chris doesn't have the competency to do financial transactions in the 6 figures.

Awhile ago I met an autistic young man through a friend of my mothers, he 'owned' a house that was in his name but in reality managed by his brother who was normal. He lived alone and did not drive (in fact, I met him because I had to give a ride once), but his brother came by and did everything for him such as mowing the lawn. Something like that is the only way it would work for Chris, and we know Cole has no desire to be anywhere near any of them, let alone lift a finger for Chris.

I can see Cole coming back just to get the money and leave. You have a point. Chris came close to 5k from weens, through Null. Chris, of course fucked it up. I don't know what he would have done with the money, but he certainly wouldn't use it towards the house: he'd buy more toys and hoard the house even more than ever.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

My main issue with his autism isn’t the validity of it per say, but how it was made ages ago. The understanding of autism has skyrocketed in the last couple of decades. It would be real interesting to see what modern diagnosis he would’ve gotten as a kid today.

I don’t doubt it has autism, obviously, but I think his diagnosis is more nuanced.

I think he shows more signs of pathological demand avoidance (aka extreme demand avoidance) than narcissism or other clear cluster B disorders, or even basic laziness.

PDA is not recognized or called out as a separate disorder or substrain of autism/ASD in the DSM-V. In the DSM-V, it was generally captured under pervasive developmental disorder - not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS), which, if I understand correctly, is now in the DSM-V swept into the ASD bucket. But it is a unique profile, with social manipulation being a key part.

I read this diagnostic quiz and felt like I was reading a description of about nearly all of his most notable behavioral features. Questions asked how much they do/try to:

• obsessively resist and avoid ordinary demands and requests
• complain about illness or physical incapacity to avoid a request or demand
• are driven by the need to be in charge
• find everyday pressures (e.g. having to go on a routine trip/visit dentist) intolerably stressful
• tell other people how they should behave, but do not feel these rules apply to me
• mimic other people’s mannerisms and styles (e.g., use phrases adopted from other people to express myself to others)
• have difficulty complying with demands and requests from others unless they are carefully presented
• take on roles or characters (from TV/real life) and ‘act them out’
• show little shame or embarrassment (e.g., I might throw a tantrum in public and not be embarrassed)
• invent fantasy worlds or games and act them out
• good at getting around others and making them do as I want
• unaware or indifferent to the differences between myself and figures of authority (e.g. parents, teachers, and police)
• will still sometimes have a ‘meltdown’ (e.g., scream, tantrum, hit, or kick) if I feel pressurized to do something
• like to be praised/told I have done a good job
• rapidly changing mood (e.g., I can switch from affectionate to angry in an instant)
• know what to do or say to upset particular people
• blame or target a particular person/persons
• deny things I have done, even if I am caught “red-handed”
• can be distracted (preoccupied) ‘from within’ (i.e., absorbed in my own world)
• make an effort to maintain my reputation with other people
• sometimes use outrageous or shocking behaviour to get out of doing something
• have periods when I have extremely emotional responses (e.g., crying/giggling, becoming furious) to what others would think small events
• ensure any social interaction is on my own terms
• prefer to interact with others in an adopted role or communicate through props or objects
• seek to quibble and change rules set by others
• can be passive and difficult to engage

EDA-QA

 

[Hogar Grupal]

A bed in a community/assisted living place will run at least $200/night. Chris is not getting a private room unless Cole stops burning all his Carnigee Hall money and steps up to contribute.
If Chris "rages", he will be out on his ear. These places are not prisons and not required to hold violent or dangerous slow-in-the-minds. The rules will be clear as gosh-danged crystal. If Chris is a threat or requires a level of care that the staff level is unable to provide, he has to go.

Unfortunately, Chris has gotten used to living in the way he's wanted to for decades. He's lucky he's in a separating wing of the jail with a cell all to himself. He won't like sharing a space and will end up being hot potato-ing between group homes and shelters. I wish weens would get Chris an RV because with that, he has a place to stay, and he won't wear out his welcome wherever he goes.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

I can see Cole coming back just to get the money and leave. You have a point. Chris came close to 5k from weens, through Null. Chris, of course fucked it up. I don't know what he would have done with the money, but he certainly wouldn't use it towards the house: he'd buy more toys and hoard the house even more than ever.

The house, even though fucked, with the land and everything (decay being on hold for now since Chris and Barb aren't there to destroy it further), would still probably sell for more than 100K. In the most wild of circumstances, I could see Chris raising 10K from weens, but not 50K+ that he'd need to buy Cole out.

A bed in a community/assisted living place will run at least $200/night. Chris is not getting a private room unless Cole stops burning all his Carnigee Hall money and steps up to contribute.

There isn't going to be any contributing to anything; some states have rules about SSI payments contributing automatically a part of the 'rent' in a group home, but let's face it - Chris is essentially a ward of the state for the rest of his life (and therefore taxpayers are who are going to be paying that $200 a night for the next 40+ years).

 

[Hogar Grupal]

There isn't going to be any contributing to anything; some states have rules about SSI payments contributing automatically a part of the 'rent' in a group home, but let's face it - Chris is essentially a ward of the state for the rest of his life (and therefore taxpayers are who are going to be paying that $200 a night for the next 40+ years).

Like I said before, if it wasn't for the incest speeding things up, this would have been a definite thing 5 + years from now. Chris doesn't know how to plan, and Bob was a fool leaving everything to Barb. Chris being a ward of the state was going to be inevitable, that or being a wealthy ween's plaything (irony).

 

[AnOminous]

I wish weens would get Chris an RV because with that, he has a place to stay, and he won't wear out his welcome wherever he goes.

With the way he drives, even going slow like a granny like he does, he'd kill someone. It's better he have as small a vehicle as possible and preferably none at all other than a tard scooter of some kind. Having a vehicle just increases his reach and ability to go rape Barb some more.

Chris doesn't know how to plan, and Bob was a fool leaving everything to Barb.

Other than disinheriting her and leaving it all to someone else, what choice did he have? He couldn't dispose of her half of the marital estate without her permission anyway. Short of divorcing her what was he going to do other than just decide not to die?

 

[Jon Osterman]

And, although this is probably a minority opinion, I don't buy Chris' belief in the "other dimensions" or the "dimensional merge" for a minute. I think his entire world-view, like the Lego high school model, is a carefully crafted ploy to gain attention, and respect from anyone dim enough to humor him. I think he has a great imagination; I don't believe he's delusional.

I'm not convinced of that. Remember that a lot of the stuff that happened in the Idea Guys saga wasn't publicly known, and that the main reason they were able to extort money from him was by convincing him that Cwcville was in danger. If he didn't truly believe in other dimensions, why would he go along with the Idea Guys?

The understanding of autism has skyrocketed in the last couple of decades. It would be real interesting to see what modern diagnosis he would’ve gotten as a kid today.

There almost certainly is an updated (2021) diagnosis for him floating around somewhere. I assume they updated it for the case.

i think he looks young, he still resembles a prepubescent boy, the reason he looks ' older'' is because hes so unkempt and disheveled

That is 28 year old Chris for his Hook Cafe photo. He does kinda look like he's in his late teens early 20s.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

That photo is haunting. Moreso than your average Chris photo. Something about his unwashed face and sad eyes clashing with the universally positive gesture of a thumbs-up. Its like a photo some Jihadist would send to prove that they have taken someone hostage before beheading them.

 

[FunPosting101]

Is Chris getting better

No. He needs at least 50ccs of Barbussy per day in order to regain his full autism power.

 

[I swear she's 18]

That photo is haunting. Moreso than your average Chris photo. Something about his unwashed face and sad eyes clashing with the universally positive gesture of a thumbs-up. Its like a photo some Jihadist would send to prove that they have taken someone hostage before beheading them.

It's better than his older ones. You know with the "autistic stare". I don't know why but it's so uncanny how they never look at the camera with glossed over eyes. Never understood why eye contact is hard for autists but hey. At least Chris learned how to "pose" for the camera.