Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

[likeacrackado]

It should also be taken into consideration that for every person who's going on some diatribe about the Elders of Zion, there's 50 more who wish that he'd shut up and who knows how many people lurking around and not saying a word. People just have a tendency to focus on the negative because that's how brains are wired, so they don't much care for the couple dozen of posts that more or less just stride down the middle of the aisle and they can't formulate an opinion on the people who never say anything, but that person in the corner screaming about White Extinction is going to garner a lot of attention.

The exception being threads that are implicitly about Jews or black people. Those threads are a guaranteed train wreck because it attracts them like moths to a flame.

I've always said that the majority of A&H are not racist people, there are just racist people in A&H. I don't much care for it and I don't think it solves anything and I think that every racism-driven theory and ideology is ridiculous because most of them are the exact, same theory with the races shuffled around, but if someone wants to pound out gamer words on the internet: I'm not their mom. That's not my business.

All of the people elsewhere on the site who go to similar lengths to decry The Great Un-Penising or to lament the caloric intake of the nearest ham planet all fall under the same guidance as A&H: Go for it, go nuts, stack that shit to the ceiling, but if calls for specific, physical action become a part of your routine, you've stepped over a line. I can guarantee with absolute certainty that if someone repeatedly ran into the Amberlynn threads and started discussing her murder, or started trying to formulate a plan for how to deal with the scooty puff menace infesting every slowly-rounding corner of our country, they'd be thrown off the website faster than food vanishes off Amber's plate.

It's something of an awkward position because I can understand the arguments from both sides of the extreme, I just don't agree with them. The vast majority of the userbase in the sub-forum is wandering around in the middle of the field and never does anything untowards, so punishing the entirety of them for the behaviour of a few and for the actionable behaviour of a single person who wasn't a regular user of the sub-forum in the first place isn't sensible, to me.

The range of opinions is what drew me to A&H in the firstplace, that and the clickbait titles. It was refreshing to see a place where ironic and unironic racism existed and wasn't a circlejerk. The topics discussed are bound to draw up the hyperbole more than other stuff on the site. Childrape, war and political strife up the ante more than the next game DSP will suck at or the next candybar some fatty shoves in their mouth. Could use a few more tankies to spice things up, the contrasting neolib schtik of running off to complain about muh A&H everytime they get bad ratings is stale.

 

[Fish-Eyed Fool]

Boredom and me being a shit poster with nothing of substance to offer drew me to A&N, and if Null awoke to the idea of quality control and decided to nuke that board tomorrow with no survivors, well I guess that'd be fair.

 

[Huge Fuckin Nerd]

Civil war LARPing /pol/ rejects are cancer.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

For an old fart who only reads the Farms on her phone, what can I do to help?

Can Null accept money orders? Personal checks?

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

After reading through this thread, I see two distinct issues.

1. Null doesn't want to babysit the unironic /pol/ types (often newfags) who hang out in A&N almost exclusively and who think that cooperating with the FBI is "selling out" (even if said threat came from a troll) and won't tolerate violent threats.

2. Null slamming A&N attracted a whole lot of other newfags (joined less than a year ago, or close to that mark) to this very thread that think A&N should be shut down. These people are probably more harmful to KF as a whole by masquerading as real users. To me, these are the true cancer of the site. A&N can be kept under control as a containment zone, the last thing KF needs is people who claim they know the "culture" of the site and lecture older users in an effort to gain control. (To quote a well-known figure, "many such cases" have happened on other forums). This is what causes the functional deaths of communities, and I'd rather see KF dead than be handed over to the likes of these people.

Ah yes, der ewige Newfag, to paraphrase our own crop of edgelord shitters and unironic fedposters.

My reason for giving you the disagree internet sticker is the bit about containment boards. They always spiral out of control. From /pol/ to /mlp/ to our own A&H they all follow the same script. To think that they can ever be successfully tardwrangled is wishful thinking at best.
Annoying users get shunted into their own board to keep the rest of the site fine. They are separated from site culture at large by design and often left to their own devices. Over time board culture goes from at odds to immiscible with site culture. This is exacerbated if their moderation is endogenous.
As some of these users develop new interests or wish to broaden their interaction with the site at large they spread out away from their containment board. As their board culture is now incompatible with the site culture at large there will be mutual animosity between contained users and core users along with a resistance to assimilate on the contained users' part. Metastasis is complete, the once contained cancer is now as systemic as it is intractable. Game Over.

All that said, I do agree with you that keeping A&N behind registration may have been a mistake, as the calls (from the FBI) are now be coming from inside the house. The problem-children new users that were only interested in A&N politisperging and glownigger brinksmanship would remain even if A&N were nuked. If they were smart (they're not) they would assimilate with general site culture and blend into the background. That's wishful thinking on my part, newfags don't lurk.

Otherwise I expect the dreaded Eternal Summer that blighted /v/ to be upon the Farms. I, for one, look forward to the new crop of 100% halal corn. It's the sustainable lolcow cultivation of tomorrow.

 

[You Just Ever Yandere]

I'm gonna blow up your moms twat there violence

seriously tho this change literally affects nothing unless you're a retard and all you make is death threats on a forum about making fun of people. You might want to consider having less brain damage if this is all you do.

 

[Nobunaga]

Yes, the users who explicitly state they "don't give a shit" about lolcows and want to use the site to "fight the Jews and niggers" aren't the cancer killing the site, it's the users that want them gone! What a brilliant deduction, let's just delete the entire Lolcow subforum while we're at it.

Says the pedo who was also making dumb threats like SIG

 

[Marissa Moira]

3) Battle Not With Monsters, Lest Ye Become A Monster

But what if my goal is to become a Pikachu?

 

[PadThaiLover1]

For an old fart who only reads the Farms on her phone, what can I do to help?

Can Null accept money orders? Personal checks?

He might take donations of bit coin

 

[Kerth Gersen]

Ah yes, der ewige Newfag, to paraphrase our own crop of edgelord shitters and unironic fedposters.

My reason for giving you the disagree internet sticker is the bit about containment boards. They always spiral out of control. From /pol/ to /mlp/ to our own A&H they all follow the same script. To think that they can ever be successfully tardwrangled is wishful thinking at best.
Annoying users get shunted into their own board to keep the rest of the site fine. They are separated from site culture at large by design and often left to their own devices. Over time board culture goes from at odds to immiscible with site culture. This is exacerbated if their moderation is endogenous.
As some of these users develop new interests or wish to broaden their interaction with the site at large they spread out away from their containment board. As their board culture is now incompatible with the site culture at large there will be mutual animosity between contained users and core users along with a resistance to assimilate on the contained users' part. Metastasis is complete, the once contained cancer is now as systemic as it is intractable. Game Over.

All that said, I do agree with you that keeping A&N behind registration may have been a mistake, as the calls (from the FBI) are now be coming from inside the house. The problem-children new users that were only interested in A&N politisperging and glownigger brinksmanship would remain even if A&N were nuked. If they were smart (they're not) they would assimilate with general site culture and blend into the background. That's wishful thinking on my part, newfags don't lurk.

Otherwise I expect the dreaded Eternal Summer that blighted /v/ to be upon the Farms. I, for one, look forward to the new crop of 100% halal corn. It's the sustainable lolcow cultivation of tomorrow.

Every challenge is an opportunity, right? So, when they come out to post on the rest of the site, there should be flashing red lights, a loud klaxon and a robot voice announcing "Containment breach! Batten the mizzenmast! Initiate tardwrangling protocols immediately!"

Coz that would be cool. For certain values of "slightly buzzed" I'd have to check see if I was in a freakin' monster movie.

 

[Bob_]

C'mon guys @Null only started the farms to expand his feeding fetish and now you're shitting it up discussing how to shoot people in Minecraft??? Shame on you!

Serious question, how did the FBI find out about the threat? Was it from a user report or from closely monitoring the site?

 

[KingCoelacanth]

C'mon guys @Null only started the farms to expand his feeding fetish and now you're shitting it up discussing how to shoot people in Minecraft??? Shame on you!

Serious question, how did the FBI find out about the threat? Was it from a user report or from closely monitoring the site?

Anytime more than 5 people in the US gather to discuss politics, at least one of them is a fed

 

[HarblMcDavid]

For an old fart who only reads the Farms on her phone, what can I do to help?

Can Null accept money orders? Personal checks?

He's mentioned in the past that he liked stream.me because they cut checks and mailed them, which meant they could be sent to his virtual office and deposited in some way that involves scanning the check, but that information may be out of date so it'd probably be worth checking with him to get specifics.

 

[Fatrick Hamlinson]

But what if my goal is to become a Pikachu?

Explore gene modification and cloning with the South Koreans.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Well don't I got some shit for you, buddy.

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Oh, please tell me he dropped names. That would be fucking hysterical.

 

[Barry Scott]

Ah yes, der ewige Newfag, to paraphrase our own crop of edgelord shitters and unironic fedposters.

My reason for giving you the disagree internet sticker is the bit about containment boards. They always spiral out of control. From /pol/ to /mlp/ to our own A&H they all follow the same script. To think that they can ever be successfully tardwrangled is wishful thinking at best.
Annoying users get shunted into their own board to keep the rest of the site fine. They are separated from site culture at large by design and often left to their own devices. Over time board culture goes from at odds to immiscible with site culture. This is exacerbated if their moderation is endogenous.
As some of these users develop new interests or wish to broaden their interaction with the site at large they spread out away from their containment board. As their board culture is now incompatible with the site culture at large there will be mutual animosity between contained users and core users along with a resistance to assimilate on the contained users' part. Metastasis is complete, the once contained cancer is now as systemic as it is intractable. Game Over.

All that said, I do agree with you that keeping A&N behind registration may have been a mistake, as the calls (from the FBI) are now be coming from inside the house. The problem-children new users that were only interested in A&N politisperging and glownigger brinksmanship would remain even if A&N were nuked. If they were smart (they're not) they would assimilate with general site culture and blend into the background. That's wishful thinking on my part, newfags don't lurk.

Otherwise I expect the dreaded Eternal Summer that blighted /v/ to be upon the Farms. I, for one, look forward to the new crop of 100% halal corn. It's the sustainable lolcow cultivation of tomorrow.

I agree with you for the most part but please put down the thesaurus.

 

[nekrataal]

Civil war LARPing /pol/ rejects are cancer.

They’re on par with the troons in that department. They ruin everything just like troons, but except they spend all their money on tacticool shit instead of troon pills.

 

[The Last Stand]

Oh, please tell me he dropped names. That would be fucking hysterical.

If he did, would they come back to Null asking for IPs again?

I think Null nuked that whole Election thread.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Oh, please tell me he dropped names. That would be fucking hysterical.

He didn't, in the moment he couldn't remember anyone's names because to him most A&H spergs aren't distinguishable from each other.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

If he did, would they come back to Null asking for IPs again?

I think Null nuked that whole Election thread.

I'm not sure, but they might. They might also be able to get the IPs themselves, but I don't know that for sure.

The thread is still up. It was only locked for a while by a mod.