Careercow Dan Harmon - Creator of Community, co-creator of Rick and Morty, and barely functional alcoholic

[KingCoelacanth]

I've never understood AS's mentality towards their own shows.
Do reruns of Fox cartoons really bring in that much higher of a profit ratio?

 

[GhostButt]

I've never understood AS's mentality towards their own shows.
Do reruns of Fox cartoons really bring in that much higher of a profit ratio?

Probably 90%+ of their revenue, it was such a big deal to get those reruns. Never underestimate the obese single moms who work at burger king that need to come home, burn a blunt, and get their stewie fix.

 

[_Wice]

Probably 90%+ of their revenue, it was such a big deal to get those reruns. Never underestimate the obese single moms who work at burger king that need to come home, burn a blunt, and get their stewie fix.

Plus Fox removes jokes from the originals of those re-runs so I imagine they would rake in a lot of cash from people who want the uncensored version.
At least they’re being nice to a few original series like Robot Chicken.

 

[:thinking:]

I've never understood AS's mentality towards their own shows.
Do reruns of Fox cartoons really bring in that much higher of a profit ratio?

I'd guess one "Rick & Morty" episode costs 2-3 million US dollars to make.
So, yeah, "Family Guy" reruns are a lot cheaper than Dan's faggotry.
Also, keep in mind that the stupid cunts aren't outsourcing the animation part to China, they're outsourcing it to Canada!

 

[BrunoMattei]

I've never understood AS's mentality towards their own shows.
Do reruns of Fox cartoons really bring in that much higher of a profit ratio?

The Fox show re-runs are the big reason why AS is where it is today. MacFarlane said that Fox sold the rights to Family Guy (not license the show, flat out sold the rights to it) to AS for practically nothing. Which is why AS still has Family Guy and was involved in some sort of co-ownership with American Dad. A similar deal happened with Futurama except AS didn't buy the rights to it (I assume Groening put the kibosh on that).

Both shows were amazing and very poorly treated by the network. It was almost impossible to find a re-run on Fox.

 

[:thinking:]

The Fox show re-runs are the big reason why AS is where it is today. MacFarlane said that Fox sold the rights to Family Guy (not license the show, flat out sold the rights to it) to AS for practically nothing. Which is why AS still has Family Guy and was involved in some sort of co-ownership with American Dad. A similar deal happened with Futurama except AS didn't buy the rights to it (I assume Groening put the kibosh on that).

Both shows were amazing and very poorly treated by the network. It was almost impossible to find a re-run on Fox.

This is hilarious, first they more or less gave away the merchandizing rights for "Star Wars" to George Lucas and then this. Fox fucks everyone, but mostly themselves.

 

[Rekkington]

A little bit fftopic: but does anyone have any links or stories about what happened with Metalocalypse getting cancelled? From what I remember, it seemed like the main Adult Swim team was getting really annoyed with the fanbase, which was constantly shit talking them on social media. I've heard offhand from some people who have done work in Altanta and have worked with and know people who worked at the Williams Street studio that the main AS team is trying to maintain a certain culture among their demographic and absolutely will burn a show if the fanbase "gets out of hand". I don't know how credible that is though.

I'm only bringing this up because I'm kind of seeing the same pattern with R&M (although this time it's far worse), and I'm wondering if anyone has read or heard anything similar.

Sorry for the wack ass buster ass Reddit link, but they showed open disdain for the fanbase when they pulled this stunt during the campaign to bring it back:

https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/4egeoe/adult_swim_is_live_streaming_footage_of_a_fax/

Seems to verify the claims that AS just decided they don't like the show or it's fans regardless of money or popularity. They have way too much trollish confidence for an organization that seems to be hanging on by a thread.

 

[Shokew]

The Fox show re-runs are the big reason why AS is where it is today. MacFarlane said that Fox sold the rights to Family Guy (not license the show, flat out sold the rights to it) to AS for practically nothing. Which is why AS still has Family Guy and was involved in some sort of co-ownership with American Dad. A similar deal happened with Futurama except AS didn't buy the rights to it (I assume Groening put the kibosh on that).

Both shows were amazing and very poorly treated by the network. It was almost impossible to find a re-run on Fox.

In terms of what's actually good shit: Futurama, yes. The other two (FG, AD), not really, IMHO.

As for R&M's current fate - as much as I like this show, GOOD. FUCKING. RIDDANCE.

This show really wrote itself into a fucking corner by Season 3's end - which means under Harmon and his army of diversity hire witchbitches, we're due for more status quo / bad writing pain in Season 4.

Plus, as a side-mission, I've also recently been reading the comics - and they suck royal ass. The SJWs (inmates) really did take over (the asylum) and it shows in every fucking sense, as you further go along..... Yeah, it pretty much just might just be best for this show to conclude. Too bad there's too much money to let go of it, now, if you know where to look.

Even if Harmon loses, it'll still go on - again, if the money is there, and thanks to Hot Topic - level memorabilia, it pretty much is.

Hopefully, however - and this is a BIG IF, if Justin Roland were to gain full control, the show might get better if it were allowed to keep going at all. The Smith family (especially Jerry and Summer) might even become less shitty characters in my eyes. That would be awesome to think about. Too bad it's pretty much too late to truly turn things around with this mess that has been made.

 

[Rekkington]

Hopefully, however - and this is a BIG IF, if Justin Roland were to gain full control, the show might get better if it were allowed to keep going at all. The Smith family (especially Jerry and Summer) might even become less shitty characters in my eyes.

Their treatment of these two characters signaled the total downfall of the show. Jerry was just cast as "your stupid dad" that all these weird feminist writers could take their aggression out on. Another thing I noticed, a lot of his sad weak confessions mirrored shit Dan would say so I think Jerry is a pretty good peek into the psychological state of Dan. If anyone listens to Harmontown he's pretty big on apologizing for himself and men and white people and Americans, essentially everything he is.

The fact that they just decided to make Jerry a loser punchingbag and Summer the amazing superhero who can do no wrong just killed it. I don't know if it's ever resolved but from the episodes I saw in season 3 and how it was going down in season 2 I assume it doesn't get better.
At this point I don't even think the show is worth saving. I'm amazed it made it past season 2, honestly. A lot of the one-note "HELLO MY NAME IS FABBITY GLORK FROM THE PLANET SNIZZ POT FIVE" shit got old and they clearly don't want to tell stories about both Rick and Morty anymore. On a personal note I also think it's a cop out to sell cheap nihilism to teens but I think that's beyond their scope.

To bring this back to Dan, I think he put himself into both Jerry and Rick. Combine those two and you get the conflicted mind of Dan Harmon: he thinks he's a genius who can fix the world and destroy all bullies, but he's also pathetic and dumb and deserves to be humiliated by women.

Also, I just want to add since I'm getting super autistic now: as someone who recently quit drinking (at least for awhile,) it really brings into perspective the sort of fractured alcoholic thinking he uses. It absolutely affects your overall mood and worldview, and ratchets up the self-loathing once you realize "I got drunk and pissed those people off" or "I got drunk and didn't get anything done all weekend," it's easy to spiral. I've never seen someone so inexplicably self destructive in the face of opportunities.
Plus he's fat and has a small dick so that can't help.

 

[Shokew]

Their treatment of these two characters signaled the total downfall of the show. Jerry was just cast as "your stupid dad" that all these weird feminist writers could take their aggression out on. Another thing I noticed, a lot of his sad weak confessions mirrored shit Dan would say so I think Jerry is a pretty good peek into the psychological state of Dan. If anyone listens to Harmontown he's pretty big on apologizing for himself and men and white people and Americans, essentially everything he is.

The fact that they just decided to make Jerry a loser punchingbag and Summer the amazing superhero who can do no wrong just killed it. I don't know if it's ever resolved but from the episodes I saw in season 3 and how it was going down in season 2 I assume it doesn't get better.
At this point I don't even think the show is worth saving. I'm amazed it made it past season 2, honestly. A lot of the one-note "HELLO MY NAME IS FABBITY GLORK FROM THE PLANET SNIZZ POT FIVE" shit got old and they clearly don't want to tell stories about both Rick and Morty anymore. On a personal note I also think it's a cop out to sell cheap nihilism to teens but I think that's beyond their scope.

To bring this back to Dan, I think he put himself into both Jerry and Rick. Combine those two and you get the conflicted mind of Dan Harmon: he thinks he's a genius who can fix the world and destroy all bullies, but he's also pathetic and dumb and deserves to be humiliated by women.

Also, I just want to add since I'm getting super autistic now: as someone who recently quit drinking (at least for awhile,) it really brings into perspective the sort of fractured alcoholic thinking he uses. It absolutely affects your overall mood and worldview, and ratchets up the self-loathing once you realize "I got drunk and pissed those people off" or "I got drunk and didn't get anything done all weekend," it's easy to spiral. I've never seen someone so inexplicably self destructive in the face of opportunities.
Plus he's fat and has a small dick so that can't help.

Having to apologize, let alone saying "I'm sorry" for things you need not apologize for makes you a weak person. Seth McFarlane, Trey & Matt, and any other hacks I refuse to name, they've gotten one thing right, unlike Harmon: Don't apologize when you've done nothing wrong. And THOSE are words to live by - something Rick & Morty fails to do, thanks to the SJWs taking over and ruining things for everyone.

 

[Spellskite]

Looks like Dan's empty bluff completely backfired on him:

Nice empty threats, Harmon. So now its clear that he really was just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

 

[Water-T]

Nice empty threats, Harmon. So now its clear that he really was just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

LOL. Once again, the drunk man-baby gets the rug pulled out from under him by a woman. Anyone with half a brain could see that Dan was trying to stir up the fan base in hopes of wringing more cash out of AS. I can only hope that AS responds to his dumb ploy by canning him and letting Roiland have full control of the series.

 

[:thinking:]

Looks like Dan's empty bluff completely backfired on him:

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Nice empty threats, Harmon. So now its clear that he really was just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

Somebody please tweet this to him!! I want to see him go ballistic on twitter again.

 

[Shokew]

LOL. Once again, the drunk man-baby gets the rug pulled out from under him by a woman. Anyone with half a brain could see that Dan was trying to stir up the fan base in hopes of wringing more cash out of AS. I can only hope that AS responds to his dumb ploy by canning him and letting Roiland have full control of the series.

That..... is exactly how this series can be salvaged. Also, firing any and all diversity hires, IMHO. Whatever it takes to make this show better itself from being the embittered drunk it clearly is right now.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

The way I see it, the sow's exactly the same as it's ever been, diversity hires or not. The only sudden, stupid shift was that little arc where Beth somehow became "too smart for the universe" like Rick and contemplated dimension running like Rick does, despite the part where they established in the first season that even without Jerry or the kids, she ends up essentially the same (her most 'successful' timeline ended with her as a human surgeon, but also a drunk).

Besides that, the episodes from season 3 were the exact same for me as the first two years. Fanbase got way worse, but take away the forced PICKLE RIIIIIIIIIIIIICK meme and even that episode was just like the ones before it.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

Nice empty threats, Harmon. So now its clear that he really was just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

Just got this on my Facebook feed

The voice of Rick / a co creator of the show (Harmon) is more insufferable than the entire fanbase of that show and that's a feat in of itself. An awful person.

Coudn't agree more.

 

[Rekkington]

Welp, seems like the ride is finally over, maybe.

Truth is he didn't confirm shit except that little snip from the Tweet above.



Source: https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/rick-and-morty-season-4-not-renewed/

Dan Harmon's head is as disproportionate as Amy Schumer's body.

 

[:thinking:]

The way I see it, the sow's exactly the same as it's ever been, diversity hires or not. The only sudden, stupid shift was that little arc where Beth somehow became "too smart for the universe" like Rick and contemplated dimension running like Rick does, despite the part where they established in the first season that even without Jerry or the kids, she ends up essentially the same (her most 'successful' timeline ended with her as a human surgeon, but also a drunk).

Besides that, the episodes from season 3 were the exact same for me as the first two years. Fanbase got way worse, but take away the forced PICKLE RIIIIIIIIIIIIICK meme and even that episode was just like the ones before it.

I respectfully disagree. The previous seasons were more irreverent. Rick wasn't a god-like Nietzschean being who played 8d chess while being so sad because nobody understands a super genius, Morty was a regular, dumb kid, Summer was a regular, dumb slut, and Jerry had some balls.

 

[vertexwindi]

I respectfully disagree. The previous seasons were more irreverent. Rick wasn't a god-like Nietzschean being who played 8d chess while being so sad because nobody understands a super genius, Morty was a regular, dumb kid, Summer was a regular, dumb slut, and Jerry had some balls.

Yeah, despite not being that big a fan of Rick and Morty to begin with, the third season was noticeably poorer than the ones before it and ended up what might possibly be the most anti-climatic ending they could've done. They need to reel in Harmon's bullshit because clearly the guy can't handle any show for more than two seasons.

 

[DavieCrockerJump]

I respectfully disagree. The previous seasons were more irreverent. Rick wasn't a god-like Nietzschean being who played 8d chess while being so sad because nobody understands a super genius, Morty was a regular, dumb kid, Summer was a regular, dumb slut, and Jerry had some balls.

I respectively disagree with your respectful disagreement.
Rick was always "muh super intelligent nihilistic but ultimately tragic figure" a good example is that time when he kills some random creature and then tries to kill himself, but ultimately just passes out because he's drunk; basically the whole episode with the hive mind. I wouldn't say Jerry has changed. He's always spineless until he's backed into a corner. Ultimately, in my opinion the characters are boring. Rick is smart, Morty is short sighted, April is a normal teenage girl, Jerry is an invertebrate and I forgot the name of the wife because she's, you know, forgettable.