Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 305 26.6%
  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 813 70.9%

  • Total voters
    1,147
I think all of this "le...AI computer" shit is retarded, and a total mask for open fraud and grift. None of that shit is real. None of that shit can replace actual people running programs and departments.
The point isn't to replace anyone, but create a justification and a layer of plausible deniability in addition to shifting blame away from humans to technology in case of severe fuck ups. AI is useful because it is a black box which can output anything with proper manipulation of inputs. Most people and especially politicians and judges don't understand it, and will interpret it solely based on their partisan bias. If you want to craft a neat justification for a conclusion which you already arrived at, you use AI. Previously, you had to at least resort to manipulating statistics but that's too inconvenient now compared to AI. Fraud and grift are the objectives from the get go.

If you're interested in the topic, I'd recommend reading How to Lie with Statistics and How to Lie with Maps. Personally, I'm waiting for part 3 which is How to Lie with AI.
 
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Sorry, I'm over here wiping my tears with dollar bills. I guess you're right, though, I'd happily trade being the most powerful country on the planet for gay people not existing or... trading with other countries?
People who tardrage about "globohomo" are the biggest retards on the planet. They consumed so much Russian botfarm slop on social media that they want the US to be isolationist. Why? Because Putin's lackeys convinced them that isolationist is good. Why did Putin do that? He wants Russia being the global superpower and not the USA. They're legitimately retarded, gullible simpletons

Still projecting, little hoagie ? Never seen a man so obsessed about Republicans dicks.
You're the guy who spazes out in every thread that laughs at lolcows like Elon and Trump because you want to have sex with them. It's okay, I know you love to defend the honor of m'lady
 
Sorry that the obese, elderly, senile man that you fantasize about penetrating you is doing so badly. Maybe you should stop mindlessly consuming Russian botfarm slop on social media and letting it dictate all of your opinions.
Stop. Le Ruzzians is getting trite. They're certainly not behind trump, not to the degree you think they are. Elon owns twatter and probably rigged some voting machines, no russions needed. What grinds my gears way more is how dems turned into crazy eyed warhawks over helping literal nazi hohols. Ukraine was a shit move on the U.S. part and the old man seems really sad about the senseless killing - he's actually kinda consistent on his anti-war stance - it's quite crazy how all the rightoids gloss over his mean spirited jabs at soliders and verterans in general and how he got personal and unhinged towards warhawks like the bushes and esp. late mccain - the "I don't like war" stance seems one of the few genuine things he actually believes in. And - despite all that - he's still blue balling putin pretty hard r/n, even shipped weapons again.
 
Stop. Le Ruzzians is getting trite. They're certainly not behind trump, not to the degree you think they are. What grinds my gears way more is how dems turned into crazy eyed warhawks over helping literal nazi hohols. Ukraine was a shit move on the U.S. part and the old man seems really sad about the senseless killing - he's actually kinda consistent on his anti-war stance - it's quite crazy how all the rightoids gloss over his mean spirited jabs at soliders and verterans in general and how he got personal and unhinged towards warhawks like the bushes and esp. late mccain - the "I don't like war" stance seems one of the few genuine things he actually believes in. And - despite all that - he's still blue balling putin pretty hard r/n, even shipped weapons again.
Russia loves Trump because Trump is easily influenced. They can convince him to do whatever they want (in this case, become isolationist). There was a huge push by Russia's botfarms to push Republicans because they know that will weaken America on the global stage. Trump is going to stop helping Ukraine so that Russia can take it, all because Russia convinced him to. He's as gullible and impressionable as his simps in the Thunderdome

Trump loves war just as much as the neocons did. He just was better at hiding it. Remember the Gaza thing last week?
 
The point isn't to replace anyone, but create a justification and a layer of plausible deniability in addition to shifting blame away from humans to technology in case of severe fuck ups. AI is useful because it is a black box which can output anything with proper manipulation of inputs. Most people and especially politicians and judges don't understand it, and will interpret it solely based on their partisan bias. If you want to craft a neat justification for a conclusion which you already arrived at, you use AI. Previously, you had to at least resort to manipulating statistics but that's too inconvenient now compared to AI. Fraud and grift are the objectives from the get go.

If you're interested in the topic, I'd recommend reading How to Lie with Statistics and How to Lie with Maps. Personally, I'm waiting for part 3 personally which is How to Lie with AI.
Definitely had these same thoughts. To me it seems clear that the "DOGE" guys are running some AI program that is pulling all data and compiling it, and then running it through for key words and anything over [x] dollar amount, and flagging all of it as waste that needs to be cut. I don't know if it's true, or just media hysteria, but I heard a lot of programs had their "transition" programs cut, like some federally-sponsored student-to-worker transition project, because of the specific usage of the word "transition."

To me that reads straight out of someone just copy-pasting from the AI algorithm that was set up to flag every usage of the word "transition."
 
I saw someone driving a Cybertruck today. I shook my head and laughed.
You have to see it to believe it. I spotted one in Hell's Kitchen, and let me tell you, it’s a bigger, uglier DeLorean with even worse visibility. It’s obvious who it’s for—conservative yuppies who want to flex on their neighbors. (No surprise it's made in the image of its creator)
 
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Russia loves Trump because Trump is easily influenced. They can convince him to do whatever they want (in this case, become isolationist).
That'd be even more in china's interest, russia WANTS trade with the west. I think trump really is believes in muh trade wars, it's just his brand. They don't need to puppeteer him, they just help him, because he's useful being like that. If anything, I'm sensing a chance for a heel turn on the ukraine issue... because muh U.S.A. stronk and first. He doesn't understand that trade wars with china are le bad for us, he just doesn't. And while it'd be very useful for russia to let up the pressure in the middle east - he just doesn't like war, because war is expensive and he's the deal making cost-cutter in his own delusion. If anything, I'd peg him as an old school pre 9/11 W.T.O. idealist who believes in walking with a big stick, but enacting authority via commerce, instead of sanctions and forever oil wars. I sound naive here, but I think he's stuck in the 80s with the guys bush's and reagan's al quaida exploded in the towers - mostly symbolically. Being real in this fossilized way would fit the general dementia m.o. too. And I also don't have much better ideas, except for NOT doing trade wars with china. He's basically granpa simpson tier locked in to whatever he believed 20 years ago. Like most old geezers, he isn't swayed easily. I don't think he is easily puppeteered at all, he maybe outwitted by the thiels in his own corner tho...

To clearify on Ukraine: The generals might sell him on russia losing more ground very rapidly in the short term, which he might take a a sign to blueball putin until he can force both sides to concede more favorably for Ukraine, cucking putin and still ending the war on his clock without being seen a the russian traitor.
 
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"relies on data being correctly entered" -Oops, that only makes me more suspicious, because why would anyone enter data for citizens that are too old to exist? Oh wait...
"it's plausible that remaking the whole thing can be more expensive and risky than just accepting the current amount of waste." -So firstly, you acknowledge this is waste? Secondly, you are basically saying "it's too expensive to clean this room because it's so big, but it's ok, if my trash is piled up on the far end of the room it won't bother me!"

I am also interested to hear how DOGE should go about doing things. Maybe I am the naive one and the government without extreme change in direction provided by Trump and his fellas works just fine. That 35 trillion dollar debt? Wonder where that could have come from? Let's do an "in depth internal report" on how this could have happened. The budget and timeline for this report? 10 trillion dollars and 35 years. Surely nothing would go wrong.
This exact question was answered a few pages back. Stop running in circles.


Anyways BlueAnon is on the case on if Elon is a neo-nazi, pushing away the clip of him Sieg Heiling, they found the REAL proof.
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A few days ago, Errol apparently dropped this:
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Maybe Elon is avoiding him again, and this is Errol's way of punishing him for it.

I wonder whether Elon sees and treats Trump as a kind of replacement father.
There will be drama.

I feel sorry for the women with Elon, even Amber.

Ironic when Republicans hate anyone who isn't a straight, white, Christian male and blame brown people for them being poor instead of billionaires
Nah straight, white, Christian females are okay.
I only hate Elong because he is african.
 
Yeah, Vance is certainly at least reasonably intelligent but he's got the charisma of a wet sock. He's also a terrible speaker (remember when he admitted he made up the Haitians eating pets thing on national tv? lol what a tard). Harris wasn't a great speaker but compared to Vance she was like JFK

I 'member, JD Vance pulled the same "trying to start a conversation" that Jussie Smollet & SJW hoaxers have used. People running for the highest offices in the country doing that BS is worse than a minor celebrity or troon doing it. It's somewhat amusing how radicals at both extremes use the same tactics.

Edit: to all you fucking retards out there, social security generates money from tax payers. There are fewer working class tax payers now, and numerous retirees. This is not a fault of the system, this is the system working as intended, with unforseen complications. Divesting Social Security is a topic for debate, but saying that its broken without some real proof is retarded as fuck.

There's a lot of horseshit with SSA that's draining it and needs to be addressed, beyond just politicians raiding it. For example, boomers in their twilight years should not be able to marry someone so their widow of a 9 month marriage can start getting 50-100% of their SS checks for the rest of their lives. I have a Musk-worshipping MAGA relative in his 80's who just did this with a Colombian trophy GF in her 50's. That should only apply to spouses that've been married to someone a long time, like 20+ years, military excepted. Boomers really are the fuckin worst & are resented for good reason.
 
I saw someone driving a Cybertruck today. I shook my head and laughed.
I saw one the other day pulling out of the parking lot of a convenience store, and everyone on line as well as the cashier commented on how ugly it was and how the owner is an idiot. That's been my experience every single time I've been around people during a cybertruck spotting. Even if people are completely detached from all the news and politics and know nothing about Elon Musk, they still know it's an ugly overpriced shitbucket that nobody likes looking at. It looks like something the Combine would drive in Half-Life 2.
 
You don't see an issue with Elon having access to all your info? Get on X right now, tag Elon, call him a fake nigger trust fund tard baby and see if you don't wake up tomorrow with your bank account drained and the feds at your door. Should be easy for you if you truly believe he won't abuse his position.
I don't have twitter, but you have a point. Twitter users who like trolling Elon Musk could be worried.
Cmon you can do better, feds.

If i might ask for a favor, at the future Musk-hate concentration camp, I wanna get shot standing next to Ellen Woodbury from Canada.

She is a young and quirky webcomic creator who drew this
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Very fitting for half of the thread and many many "conservatives" of Xitter, if you replace the god emperor with Elon.
 
I mean yea, every corporation in America knows this. When these systems were written, you could hire a dozen COBOL devs for pocket change and some string. Nowadays a single COBOL dev who can seriously work on these systems is likely to cost half a million per year.

I work in a fortune 500 company that doesn't make money from technology so it's largely immune to the current tech downturn. They've been banging on the drum of, "off the mainframe next year" for 30 years at this point. We're still using the fucking mainframe and we're still using fucking COBOL. If corporate America is struggling with something, it'd perhaps behoove the DOGE people fucking around with our technical infrastructure to stop and think, "Maybe this problem is actually much harder than we thought?"
So you're right but you're also wrong. Putting aside DOGE for a moment, the following things are reasonably true.

There are four main killers of project rewrites. And it's why rewriting a product is often considered a trap.

1. Scope creep. Instead of hitting the same target now you have to hit the same target + 20 features to replace it. And if the old code is not feature frozen, that list ever grows. It's often not enough in corporate America to replace an ancient system with a modern one that runs the same but faster/saner.
2. Insufficient understanding of what the system does and how. If someone wrote a black magic module nobody understands and everyone is terrified of trying to, it's a problem for maintenance but also replacement. This fear keeps some legacy systems in scarily critical places. It also can mean nobody actually knows how many 100s of things the old system does.
3. Quarter shareholder return. Rewrites don't produce new profit. They cost money. In the short term they do not benefit shareholders of the stock. Corporate tech America hasn't cared about the long term in decades.
4. Office politics and the people who work on the old system absolutely fucking over the new project to keep their jobs.

For legacy government systems I can nearly promise you 1 could be dealt with if someone had the spine. 3 is not really the issue. Although selling it to whoever you answer to might be. Spend a million this year, save 5 million over the next three years only works when buzzwords and the newest hype that won't deliver are involved.

2 is a fucking nightmare and quite likely a big part of the problem.
4 is also guaranteed a problem it's just govt internal politics are slightly different looking/flavored than normal private sector ones. But they exist and lots of people make a shit ton of money by intentionally fucking over other govt contractor they're supposed to be integrating with and playing very stupid games with taxpayer money. Nevermind the jockeying for favor that happens within the upper echelon of any govt agency.

DOGE won't solve either, not reasonably. On the other hand anyone who follows my posts knows I have 0 faith our government will keep the lights on as it is and most critical systems we have now are already failing, fucked up, or unable to do their purpose anymore. At some point setting the dumpster on fire is the only way you'll ever be rid of it. Will it suck? Sure. Do I care anymore? Not really. Would it be nice if anyone competent and capable of solving it existed? Sure. I also want a unicorn parade on my lawn.
 
If i might ask for a favor, at the future Musk-hate concentration camp, I wanna get shot standing next to Ellen Woodbury from Canada.
So in your theory they're going worldwide with these camps? And where are you from that you're fantasizing about maybe brushing up against this Canadian woman's hand as you both fall to the ground full of lead? India?
 
The obvious flaw of Elon's breeder strategy is not so much quality of the looks, but the values these women uphold. It really doesn't matter how many children you have (as long as you have at least one or two), if these children will not have children themselves. You can have a gazillion of children, but if they all will end up living fruitless, wasted lives, it's as if you had zero...

Mothers with suspected NPD/BPD, mother with a celebrity status and/or fame hungry are obviously not a good material for raising children who want to become parents themselves. Not to mention for boys, an absent father spells very conflicted attitude towards becoming a father yourself. Given our cultural zeitgeist of avoiding becoming a parent even without any clear reason at all, the likelihood of prolonging his bloodline drops even further.

It's also very likely that Elon is on the trajectory of crash and burn. I look at him as a slow train wreck. This in addition to all aforementioned factors can add to a hatred and shame in his children, who would not want to prolong the dubious "legacy" as a result.

tl;dr Elon doesn't understand how to build generational clan/aristocracy line.
in our current cultural climate it might be possible only in highly insular communities
The genetic and general quality flaw in any plan he might have to create great kids is himself.

That was quite the eye-opener for many of us, wasn't it. Elon does NOT want to be forced to hire Americans. It seems to go deeper than mere cost savings, in my opinion. Elon wants to be a slave driver and work his H1B indentured servants to the bone, and he wouldn't be able to do that if he had to hire Americans. Even worse, given that his beloved "Starship" to Mars program will depend heavily on government funds, it really does seem treasonous that Elon wants to keep as many Americans out of his company as possible. I'm surprised more Republicans don't see this as a problem.
Elon Musk doesn't care about America or Americans. He has no loyalty - national or otherwise - to anyone or anything but himself and growing his money.

He is the last person who ought to have influence or power in this country.

Why do you have to make such a living hell for yourself in regards to family? Maybe I'm an idiot, but I can't comprehend why you should create these kind of legal problems for yourself, is this because he's a billionaire and thinks he can do anything without consequences? Or is it more than it was shown?

It's really weird. It's almost like having a traditional family lifestyle is an alien concept for them.
He doesn't care about that. Why would he? Legal problems are solvable with money, for the most part. He doesn't care about the kids' or mothers' QOLs, so he dgaf about their discomfort.

But what's the point of having children if they're not really family? Just to "spread genes"? That sounds even more autistic.
Now you're getting it.

Just firing a bunch of people isn't a solution, especially if those same people end up quietly getting hired back when they realize cutting them in the first place was a mistake.
And in the meantime, those pawns have lost homes, security, their kids have been uprooted, expensive debt has been acquired, etc. All so Little Lord Fauntleroy can prance around in glee bc he's finally getting revenge on the people who are better humans than he will ever have the capacity to be. Gurarantee he pulled the wings off of insects as a kid.
 
Yeah dude, if I have a leaking roof and someone shows up and burns the house down and says "I fixed your leaking roof!" I'm gonna be a little more upset at the fact my house was just burned down than the fact the roof was leaking previously.
Firing every single employee within the federal government that they can get away with without even knowing who they are or what work they are doing is akin to burning the house down. It's a fucking awful idea, at least if you value American hegemony and all the benefits that come with it. This work needs to be done with a scalpel not a rocket launcher.
This has been the MO for Republicans since 1979: shriek about government inefficiency and then execute a solution so incompetent that it requires a bigger government to bail them out. Guarantee you that DOGE will end up costing taxpayers more. How do I know? I just have to look at the track record of the last 45 years of Republican-led “efficiencies” that cost taxpayers more. Who was the last Republican president that balanced a budget or produced a surplus? Dwight Eisenhower. Who was the last Demonkkkrap president that balanced a budget or produced a surplus? Bill Clinton.

All I can go off of is recorded history and based on that, DOGE will make Musk’s technolibertarian buddies richer at the expense of the taxpayers. Same as it ever was.
 
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All I can go off of is recorded history and based on that, DOGE will make Musk’s technolibertarian buddies richer at the expense of the taxpayers. Same as it ever was.
It's simple, actually:
>Fire most of the bureaucracy
>replace that bureaucracy with XCorp/Palantir/OpenAI-patented AI algorithm
>Any time something goes wrong, blame the AI and then refuse to fix it.

One simple trick for making the Government even more unresponsive and even more of a shitshow than usual. But Elon alone will rake in billions for the use of his proprietary technology. They'll even make sure that, through the US Digital Service (sorry, I mean the rebrand: The US DOGE Temporary Organization), they sign multi-decade long contracts to prevent the next Administration (which will almost assuredly be Democrat lest they stage some war with Iran to trigger their gay nigger Zionist Messiah LARP) from ripping it all out.

The AI will just gradually prune people from the payroll and the recipient list for entitlements and grants. Elon can point to his spreadsheet and say that they're fixing the budget, but all of that "wasted money" gets re-routed right into his pocket. That's the deal Trump made.
 
Can we have Trump lolcow thread back?
I'd love to reopen it, but the timing needs to be right. That's why I'm waiting for Trump to say or do something so ridiculous that even the average KF user goes, "Yeah, this guy's a clown."

Also, @Fishmalk Observer and @General Emílio Médici have both been threadbanned for a week. This quote

Someone being a lolcow does not mean that you need to automatically disagree with them on everything, or that they are always wrong about things.
is a great point, but would be even better coming from someone who isn't a terminal Thunderdomer.

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