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Currently doing a playthrough of Fallout 3 my first playthrough in several years and I'm obviously preaching to the choir here but the writing really is terrible. What even is Tenpenny's motivation to blow up Megaton? He's so bothered by seeing it from his tower that he's cool with murdering like 100+ people and getting rid of a major trading hub? That's retarded. That's some Saturday morning cartoon villain shit. You need your villain to be at least somewhat believable. I don't believe even the most sociopathic weirdo would go through so much trouble for something so petty. So many of the characters are so over the top whacky and goofy you can't take them seriously in what I imagine was supposed to be a serious game. I didn't really care or think about how dumb the writing was when the game came out because I was like 13 but now it really stands out as just shitty writing.
 
With all the astroturfed hype regarding the Fallput TV series I was motivated to revisit the Machinima fan series Nuka Break. It's a cute, well executed fan project that had a lot of care put into it. Somehow those fans managed to create better more authentic looking props for their Youtube series than Amazon could pull off with millions of dollars to burn on costume and set design.
 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
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Has anyone tried this mod? It seems pretty interesting, if it expands on the Legion gameplay is more than needed.
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It's got some great potential, but I pointed out a couple pages back how spergy the mods are given how they're rather far left leaning "media literate" types (trying to boast about how this game tackles "mature themes" like sexism, imperialism, colonialism, racism, every other leftoid buzzword). I already anticipate some retarded drama surfacing in a couple of months that results in the devs deleting the mod.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
That's some Saturday morning cartoon villain shit. You need your villain to be at least somewhat believable
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The one thing that has always confused me with some of the characters in Fallout 3/4 is that you have characters with accents with little to no explanation. Are they immigrants? If so how did they manage to cross the ocean? Are they decedents of immigrants? If so, did these immigrants form tribe or settlement after the bombs fell? You could of done something with that.
 
Mister Uno said:
The one thing that has always confused me with some of the characters in Fallout 3/4 is that you have characters with accents with little to no explanation. Are they immigrants? If so how did they manage to cross the ocean? Are they decedents of immigrants? If so, did these immigrants form tribe or settlement after the bombs fell? You could of done something with that.
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I think there was a line in Fallout 3 that said some people are immigrants and that, despite the US getting the brunt of the nukes, it was still a much better place to live than the rest of the world. Some of it was done just to have someone with a accent, or by accident like the Kiwi Great Khan in FNV, but there was some explanation.
 
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
I think there was a line in Fallout 3 that said some people are immigrants and that, despite the US getting the brunt of the nukes, it was still a much better place to live than the rest of the world. Some of it was done just to have someone with a accent, or by accident like the Kiwi Great Khan in FNV, but there was some explanation.
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I was discussing this with friends last night, and one of then did say it's not unrealistic that people immigrated from Europe over to the states, especially since a lot of European nations stuck with petroleum and went to shit before the bombs even dropped. So these places are likely shit holes with little resources to go by, and I'm sure the world collapsing on top of that didn't help. I thought that the ocean was very hostile and full of horrors/radiation, but he pointed out that you safely go through the ocean in Fallout 2 to get to the oil rig.

Still the idea of niche little tribes and settlements filled with drunk Ruskies or Irishmen is amusing to me.
 
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Mister Uno said:
I was discussing this with friends last night, and one of then did say it's not unrealistic that people immigrated from Europe over to the states, especially since a lot of European nations stuck with petroleum and went to shit before the bombs even dropped. So these places are likely shit holes with little resources to go by, and I'm sure the world collapsing on top of that didn't help. I thought that the ocean was very hostile and full of horrors/radiation, but he pointed out that you saftely go through the ocean in Fallout 2 to get to the oil rig.

Still the idea of niche little tribes and settlements filled with drunk Ruskies or Irishmen is amusing to me.
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The thing about Europe is that it also went through a war in the 2060s prior to the great war, so the place was already fucked up before the Nukes dropped. All I want to know is where are my roving gangs of French Raiders who worship Wine like a god?
 
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Serbian Peacekeepers said:
The thing about Europe is that is also went through a war in the 2060s prior to the great war
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Oh man, I actually completely forgot that this happened. Eurofags really got the shit end of the stick in the Fallout universe huh?
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
All I want to know is where are my roving gangs of French Raiders who worship Wine like a god?
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>"Qui êtes-vous? A moins que vous n'ayez du vin, je m'en moque."
<"[Sneering Imperialist] What a disgusting language, and you reek of booze. Time to shut you up forever you savage ape. (Attack)"
*blasts with riot shotgun
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Mister Uno said:
and one of then did say it's not unrealistic that people immigrated from Europe over to the states,
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Even if immigration across irradiated oceans was reasonably possible, why the fuck would all the foreigners be in the infinitely shittier East Coast rather than the West? Bethesda's insistence on adding euros to the Fallout setting, including fucking Russians in Boston, is one of their dumber tendencies.
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
All I want to know is where are my roving gangs of French Raiders who worship Wine like a god?
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Doesn't Fallout 4 have a wrecked ship full of Norwegians on the coast, they even speak their native tongue. But because this is Bethesda and that idea was too cool they turned them all into Pre War ghouls who shoot you on sight.

We could have had a unique tribe of Norwegians who turned a husked out ship into a village of sorts you could interact with. Instead, they're just more guys with guns to shoot that happen to speak Norwegian.
 
Mega Black said:
Even if immigration across irradiated oceans was reasonably possible, why the fuck would all the foreigners be in the infinitely shittier East Coast rather than the West
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Easier access. Imagine trying to traverse across Europe, Eastern Europe, then Asia (which was obliterated to hell). Probably having finite resources if you try the old way of going around Africa or South America via sea. Not to mention they probably wouldn't have the greatest knowledge on how bad it is considering communication is probably limited for a variety of reasons. Just a guess though.
 
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I have finished Dead Money. Pretty damn good DLC in my opinion, I'll never understand why is so hated for its difficulty. I can agree that it's very frustrating at some parts, (the metal stairs during the finale and the unbreakable radios were particularly awful) but I think that the history of the DLC balances it to be a very great experience. There was some talk here about Lovecraftian elements in Fallout by Bethesda, I think Obsidian made a pretty good job doing it's take about that type of lore to perfection, a ghost casino in the middle of nowhere being surrounded by a mysterious and dangerous cloud? That's amazing, and it tells you enough to left you to your own interpretation.

I managed to get all companions to survive to get the perfect ending, although it left me with a little of bad taste in my mouth considering I left Dean Domino live. What are your opinions on him? He's a nasty bastard for the things he has done to Vera and being a petty asshole towards Sinclair. Did you let him live in your playthrough or not?

Now, before finishing this run... Only one more road remains...

Edit: Also, I grabbed all the gold and trapped Elijah in the vault, go to hell you old bastard.
 
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Nicholas II of Russia said:
What are your opinions on him? He's a nasty bastard for the things he has done to Vera and being a petty asshole towards Sinclair. Did you let him live in your playthrough or not?
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Every playthrough I've done he has died. He is a massive prick as you said with a giant ego, which erks me to high hell more then anything. However I usually believe in redemption or second chances for people, and would let him live if given the chance. I should try and not piss him off my next playthrough.
 
Regarding the NPCs with accents, even fallout 1 has characters with them. Morpheus, the Lieutenant, aradesh (vault 15 being a multicultural experiment).
 
Mega Black said:
We could have had a unique tribe of Norwegians who turned a husked out ship into a village of sorts you could interact with. Instead, they're just more guys with guns to shoot that happen to speak Norwegian.
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Thats really the thing with Bethesda is that they often have really interesting Ideas but the lead writers are so lazy/incompetent that they can't utilize them fully. Like the Institute could have been neat if they weren't just cartoonish villains like the Enclave in Fallout 3 (and I guess 2), Hell the entire Lyons/Outcast dynamic in Fallout 3 could have been used so much better if they spent more time on it, rip the alien quest for the Outcasts.
Mister Uno said:
Easier access. Imagine trying to traverse across Europe, Eastern Europe, then Asia (which was obliterated to hell). Probably having finite resources if you try the old way of going around Africa or South America via sea.
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Plus a trip across the Atlantic might take, at most, something like 2 or 3 months? If the living situation is that shit in Europe Its totally reasonable someone would take the risk of crossing the Ocean.
 
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
Thats really the thing with Bethesda is that they often have really interesting Ideas but the lead writers are so lazy/incompetent that they can't utilize them fully. Like the Institute could have been neat if they weren't just cartoonish villains like the Enclave in Fallout 3 (and I guess 2), Hell the entire Lyons/Outcast dynamic in Fallout 3 could have been used so much better if they spent more time on it, rip the alien quest for the Outcasts.
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The Norwegians in 4 could've been a proper faction with unique characters, gear and quests but nooooo, they were just reskinned raiders in just another shooting gallery. That game has so much wasted potential in it because Bethesda is lazy.
 
What always bothered me is the fact that there's not more racism in the fallout new Vegas and fallout games if people think that's an extreme anti communist United States would tolerate Martin Luther King junior who is a known communist subversive for five seconds they got another thing coming the vault dwellers to just all be racially segregated you can have your anti communist extreme caricature cake and eat it too.
At least fallout one and two had somewhat coherent political undertones fallout 2 making fun of America eugenicist that was in place until the 1970s
 
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