Fallout series

I do think another big part of Fallout losing it's "Horror" edge is the lack of the dark ambient music the OG games had. Like listen to the soundtracks of Fallout 1 and 2 then the Bethesda era games and you'll hear a pretty big difference. At least New Vegas had a couple of OG Fallout tracks in it but for the most part it adopted Bethesda's music style.

Honestly, if Fallout 3 and New Vegas had a dark ambient soundtrack they'd be creepier than they already were. Full disclosure though Fallout 3 properly scared me when I was young more than New Vegas did. I think it's the environments. But that shit would've been amplified if they had a darker soundtrack.

Obviously as an adult now games just don't scare me but I can still recognize how surprisingly eerie Fallout 3 can be at times aesthetic wise. Especially playing TTW with NV allowing me to basically compare their environments side by side. Not to say New Vegas didn't have creepy locations at all but Fallout 3 in general felt more lonely and desolate. Though to be fair New Vegas was explicitly set in a more civilized corner of the wasteland, unlike Fallout 3.
Sound and OST design is a really underrated part of games and another one which took a massive nosedive during Worst Timeline. The first STALKER game has imo the best dark ambient soundtrack of all time and back when I first played it I would have to shut off the game and stop playing it for a while during certain segments because I was so freaked out, something no horror game has done. Every single underground lab was scary as shit, I damn near thought I got a heart attack when I went through the Agroprom Underground in my first playthrough and that's just the first underground area in the game. I don't think this would've happened if the game's OST didn't make you feel uneasy, lonely and vulnerable all the time. There are of course studios and games that get it right still but a lot of the long running series I play got hit with the "chill"/"atmospheric"slop bug and all of their OSTs are boring now. Fighting games in general, Total War, their OSTs fucking suck now. Used to be that the music would pump you up and make you want to do better but now they just put me to sleep.
 
a lot of the long running series I play got hit with the "chill"/"atmospheric"slop bug and all of their OSTs are boring now. Fighting games in general, Total War, their OSTs fucking suck now. Used to be that the music would pump you up and make you want to do better but now they just put me to sleep.
Chill Beats to Relax and Study To and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
but the NCR must really fucking suck if they're struggling this much with these guys.
IIRC the Legion were all but said to get their soldiers high on meth before rushing the NCR and given powder to make them bulletproof. the NCR also has massive supply chain issues, so its like a black hawk down situation for months on end. Also you're forgetting the "effective range" of guns is 5% of what it is in the real world. Boone's kills from the dino that are supposed to be impressive are all super short range.
lots of already existing shit could just be repurposed anyway, so why not this
all those 200 year old supplies from the "good old days" just laying around. meanwhile South Africa is only 30 years into the apocalypse and anything that isn't nailed down vanishes overnight, including literal football pads.
 
Also you're forgetting the "effective range" of guns is 5% of what it is in the real world. Boone's kills from the dino that are supposed to be impressive are all super short range.
Do you have no concept of the difference between gameplay and lore?
I know it's fucking stupid but in the actual lore sniper rifles max effective range are in fact not 5 feet in front of you despite how it seems in game.
I think it's even said somewhere that the wasteland itself isn't 100% to scale as it's presented in game. The Mojave is way bigger in lore than it appears in-game because if it were it's canonical size in the game it would take days to travel between locations.
Or something like that.

IIRC the Legion were all but said to get their soldiers high on meth before rushing the NCR and given powder to make them bulletproof. the NCR also has massive supply chain issues, so its like a black hawk down situation for months on end.
Them being drugged up does make some sense though but again, bullets. Though it would make sense that the NCR just doesn't bother to train their soldiers to actually be able to aim so that tracks.
 
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the NCR just doesn't bother to train their soldiers to actually be able to aim so that tracks.
Look how little the Courier has to do to turn a couple of the soldiers into the best in the region, its clear the NCR is 3rd world tier in terms of infrastructure.

weird to say but it reminds me of Game of Thrones where just having the time and material to train was so rare that the main character was one of the best fighters in the entire nights watch just because he was a noble instead of some poor criminal. The Legion doing shady shit like suicide bombs with kids and night raids helps too.
 
I wonder when we will start to see lore of the TV show in the games and what will be the dumbass reason that suddenly things are altered from what they have always been.

It would be wise for Bethesda to retract their statement that the show is canon. For the record, even Halo and Rings of Power were wise to separate themselves from the source material, being their own continuities that fans could easily dismiss a slop not worth their time. Perhaps the reaction to S2 will determinate if they will move forward with its lore alterations or not with Fallout 5 but honestly, after the underwhelming numbers of Starfield, they really shouldnt be trying to provoke fans. But then again, the TV show did prove the power of normies as they can and will clap to the slop, no matter how moronic the writing is, as long as its "cool" and resembles Fallout 4.

Its just tiresome being a Fallout enjoyer.

Also.

I was looking back at some of Three Dog's "advices" in the wasteland and I find one that is particularly outrageously awful.

"So please, if you meet one of the Capital Wasteland's many Ghouls, leave your prejudice at the door and your pistol in its holster."

So basically the advice is "Trust Ghouls, they are nice". Mf, they can as dangerous as any human can. Maybe because I live in the time where we suffer the consequences of "refugees welcome" policies but this advice feels extra retarded nowadays.
 
is anyone else having a glitch with fallout 4 where explosive gases aren't igniting?
 
You mean that guy I stabbed while I was high off Jet?
how does it feel having killed off the biggest blessing to the wasteland other than Deadeye Ricky the deathjaw slayer. you monster.

I was looking back at some of Three Dog's "advices" in the wasteland and I find one that is particularly outrageously awful.
He also complains on the radio when you kill Roy Philipps after he kills Tenpenny Tower residents. Can't even decide whether this was intentional characterization or not since it's Bethesda we're talking about. I don't even think Three Dog has a reason to care about ghouls so much. It's exactly how I felt about that "Synths are people too!" sentiment in 4, which was nothing much.
 
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Wait child suicide bombers? I don't remember that. If that's canonical then, then wow. That's almost comically evil.
I don't know about suicide bombers specifically but they do use them to toss grenades at NCR troopers, knowing the NCR will hesitate to shoot. Its how Ranger Andy got a forced retirement.
 
I wonder when we will start to see lore of the TV show in the games and what will be the dumbass reason that suddenly things are altered from what they have always been.
Was anything of note actually added to FO4 in the updates that released with the show? Beyond yet more paid mods I mean.
 
You mean that guy I stabbed while I was high off Jet?
I love Myron, not only because he is good in-game(Science skill checks for everything up to getting the best Skynet brain for you, letting you ignore that skill entirely unless you plan on picking it up as your companion, letting you create Stimpacks on the go, one of the only energy weapons users. Give him an Alien Blaster, Pulse Pistol or a Gauss Pistol and watch him go to town, that is until he gets hit a couple of times and cries to mommy) but because he's an interesting character and not a goody-two shoes like you would expect from your more typical RPG companion. Having someone that is morally dubious while also being the nerd everyone else in your group, even Vic could shove in a locker and bullies relentlessly, makes him an interesting variable in your party.
Oh, and if you hate him, he always dies in an ending anyways, so it's not like he didn't get his just desserts. It's better to recruit him and at least get the Jet Antidote first before letting karma catch up to him.
Best thing to come out of Fallout was the cover of Country Roads by Spank.
You mean "best thing to come out of Fallout 76 was that nice song being memed to death and being only associated as a joke thanks to this piece of shit"? I agree.
Same thing with the number 76, I will never not think of Todd when I see it now.
I wonder when we will start to see lore of the TV show in the games and what will be the dumbass reason that suddenly things are altered from what they have always been.
I don't care because you can always mod it out. Kid in the fridge and pre war Jet doesn't exist in my copy of Fallout 4 and everything else they try to shoehorn from the TV series will be modded out. If there is too much of it and it's a lost cause, like Fallout 76, then I will simply ignore it. Fans make better Fallout games than Bethesda these days anyways, if you're depending on them to make the next big thing then you're just as desperate as Pokemon fans who also have a wealth of ROMhacks they could be playing for free instead. London, New California or better yet, something like Nevada and Sonora are your best bets now.

@PandaChai Absolutely not, all they did(aside from breaking the game) was literally insert several Creation Club quests for everyone, some of which aren't even voiced. The Enclave mod is a joke considering that America Rising 2 came out around the same time and quite literally adds a brand new faction that you can not only complete the game with but has it's own main quest line that is just as long and convoluted as that of the other factions. Bethesda are a bunch of hacks.

Videos on the update:
Oh, let's not forget that this update dropped right around the time when every normalfag and their grandma fired up Fallout 4 due to the TV show's "success", only to find the game more broken than it has ever been before...or that this was originally a Halloween update that was supposed to drop last year, but hasn't...for some reason. Oh, Todd!
 
I love Myron, not only because he is good in-game(Science skill checks for everything up to getting the best Skynet brain for you, letting you ignore that skill entirely unless you plan on picking it up as your companion, letting you create Stimpacks on the go, one of the only energy weapons users. Give him an Alien Blaster, Pulse Pistol or a Gauss Pistol and watch him go to town, that is until he gets hit a couple of times and cries to mommy) but because he's an interesting character and not a goody-two shoes like you would expect from your more typical RPG companion. Having someone that is morally dubious while also being the nerd everyone else in your group, even Vic could shove in a locker and bullies relentlessly, makes him an interesting variable in your party.
Oh, and if you hate him, he always dies in an ending anyways, so it's not like he didn't get his just desserts. It's better to recruit him and at least get the Jet Antidote first before letting karma catch up to him.
100%, you just don't see companions like him anymore in games, especially in western games, and it is really sad.
 
100%, you just don't see companions like him anymore in games, especially in western games, and it is really sad.
Jericho was fine, altho it kinda takes away from him a bit since he was the quota "evil" companion, there is also Crimson but she's more of a brainwashed whore than someone who is actually evil. Gage in Fallout 4, which I talked about, is also one of the best companions in that game.
BTW, the same person who voices Myron voices Boone in New Vegas.
 
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