Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[TayandYou]

He can drive (sort of) and use technology like video games and computers (with mixed results).

Chris can function more or less like an average person in day-to-day things, it's just when you look get beyond tying a shoe lace he needs help.

Chris isn't as stupid as most people think, he actually has normal IQ, or close enough to normal.

He's just insane now.

 

[thegooddoctor]

The Snyder incident put the blame on Barb as having been in the driver's seat so she got the full brunt of the punishment which I'd like to say involved jail time but I'd need to check the wiki, in addition to Bob's pension being pissed away on Bell. Chris was going to get charged with something minor but Snyder wanted it dropped because even after everything, he felt Chris still had a chance to not be a complete failure of a human being.

Chris, being Chris, was angry because the judge didn't instantly rule that Chris deserved ownership of the game store.

Plus, it isn't like the charges would have done much anyway, Chris was younger then and that would have been his first offense. We saw how the system handled Chris in the wake of the macing incident which largely was nothing but a net result of wasting a lot of people's time for no change in Chris's behavior other than finding other ways to get revenge on places banning him (I.E. the glitterbomb).

The real problem is that Chris doesn't get any positive reinforcement in his life for actually good things. Things he may not necessarily like and thus not be inclined to do them, as compared to the stupid shit encouraged by malicious parties like the Idea Guys or Bella who feed his delusions because in the end Chris wants affirmation into his existing self-biased viewpoints. Chris is going to hate the psych ward, because it's purpose-built to destroy things like his beloved C-137 CWCville escapist reality. The moon laser the Idea Guys were talking about is charging as we speak...

I’m honestly still dumbfounded why he didn’t just press charges and be done with it, the man had been dealing with this antisocial fat douchebag for seven years at that point, and him and his mother had both tried to run him over and possibly kill him. If someone had done that to me I’d never ever be lenient and want them to be locked up for my own and everyone else’s protection. It would probably have done him good spending at least maybe 5 years in jail. Ultimately I gotta ask what possessed Snyder to be so forgiving and drop the charges against Chris?

 

[King Kiwi]

Chris isn't as stupid as most people think, he actually has normal IQ, or close enough to normal.

He's just insane now.

We're all a little insane.

Chris is just on too high a level yagetme?

 

[TayandYou]

I’m honestly still dumbfounded why he didn’t just press charges and be done with it, the man had been dealing with this antisocial fat douchebag for seven years at that point, and him and his mother had both tried to run him over and possibly kill him. If someone had done that to me I’d never ever be lenient and want them to be locked up for my own and everyone else’s protection. It would probably have done him good spending at least maybe 5 years in jail. Ultimately I gotta ask what possessed Snyder to be so forgiving and drop the charges against Chris?

He knew Chris's best content was still yet to come, and it was not yet time for fatty to be put behind bars as he was destined for greater things.

But seriously, idk. iirc he did press charges, but just advocated for leniency since he did not want Chris to get a felony

 

[Optimus Prime]

I’m honestly still dumbfounded why he didn’t just press charges and be done with it, the man had been dealing with this antisocial fat douchebag for seven years at that point, and him and his mother had both tried to run him over and possibly kill him. If someone had done that to me I’d never ever be lenient and want them to be locked up for my own and everyone else’s protection. It would probably have done him good spending at least maybe 5 years in jail. Ultimately I gotta ask what possessed Snyder to be so forgiving and drop the charges against Chris?

Maybe Snyder thought that the threat of legal action would be enough to scare Chris straight. Obviously that didn't happen (and arguably still hasn't despite Chris being in jail), but it still ultimately makes Snyder look far more compassionate and, well, human, as compared to Chris who proverbially spit in Snyder's face with the 'red cent' comment.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Chris isn't as stupid as most people think, he actually has normal IQ, or close enough to normal.

He's just insane now.

I am unsure about how much of Chris' stupid behavior is from low IQ, how much is from his autism, and how much is from his lack of education.

You just have to look at his old high school homework. It's like it was written by a first grader. Smart autistic people learn very well academically. They have to, because they suck so bad at social intuition/empathy. Chris can't even figure out how to use a computer properly, which is why he kept using his game consoles for his creative projects.

His constant misuse of words even though definitions of them are a google search away. His lack of understanding of the world even though Wikipedia exists. An even remotely intelligent autistic person might not pick up that they were being trolled by PandaHalo, but would be able to understand that Australia is a huge country, and pull up a map of the bushfires and determine if they were in her location or not.

I tend to lean towards Chris being stupid though. Autism can't explain everything.

 

[TayandYou]

I am unsure about how much of Chris' stupid behavior is from low IQ, how much is from his autism, and how much is from his lack of education.

You just have to look at his old high school homework. It's like it was written by a first grader. Smart autistic people learn very well academically. They have to, because they suck so bad at social intuition/empathy. Chris can't even figure out how to use a computer properly, which is why he kept using his game consoles for his creative projects.

His constant misuse of words even though definitions of them are a google search away. His lack of understanding of the world even though Wikipedia exists. An even remotely intelligent autistic person might not pick up that they were being trolled by PandaHalo, but would be able to understand that Australia is a huge country, and pull up a map of the bushfires and determine if they were in her location or not.

I tend to lean towards Chris being stupid though. Autism can't explain everything.

Could it be that his autism was never as high-functioning as he assumed?

IIRC, he passed multiple tests that showed he had no significant learning difficulties, so I'm not really sure what's the deal with his intelligence. He does indeed seem stupid from his actions, but whenever he's actually tested he usually appears within the normal range, perhaps with slight learning difficulties, but nothing that would explain why he's so fucking dumb.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Could it be that his autism was never as high-functioning as he assumed?

IIRC, he passed multiple tests that showed he had no significant learning difficulties, so I'm not really sure what's the deal with his intelligence. He does indeed seem stupid from his actions, but whenever he's actually tested he usually appears within the normal range, perhaps with slight learning difficulties, but nothing that would explain why he's so fucking dumb.

I mean, it's easy to trick autistic people socially. They just don't pick up on the cues, and it's hard for them to sense bad behavior in others.

On the other hand, give them readily available trustworthy information sources -- and they are perfectly capable of determining that a source is trustworthy based on experience -- and they can learn about the world and make informed decisions.

I think the real proof that Chris is stupid is that he's bad at deck building in the Pokemon TCG. He spent years of his life playing it, he should know what works and what doesn't. It's a rules-based game, something that high-functioning autists normally excel at. He might be bad at picking up cues of what the other player is planning, but that has nothing to do with deck-building. If he weren't stupid, he could at least build a good deck and then lose with it.

 

[TayandYou]

I mean, it's easy to trick autistic people socially. They just don't pick up on the cues, and it's hard for them to sense bad behavior in others.

On the other hand, give them readily available trustworthy information sources -- and they are perfectly capable of determining that a source is trustworthy based on experience -- and they can learn about the world and make informed decisions.

I think the real proof that Chris is stupid is that he's bad at deck building in the Pokemon TCG. He spent years of his life playing it, he should know what works and what doesn't. It's a rules-based game, something that high-functioning autists normally excel at. He might be bad at picking up cues of what the other player is planning, but that has nothing to do with deck-building. If he weren't stupid, he could at least build a good deck and then lose with it.

I guess whoever was giving him those learning difficulty tests fucked up or something

I did some searching on the CWCKI for the exact tests:

'He also administered a Folstein test, a brief questionnaire designed to detect cognitive impairment. Chris racked up a perfect score, indicating no problems with his memory or basic information processing abilities. On the Global Assessment of Functioning, the doctor rated Chris a 70, roughly halfway between an average adult and someone with socially debilitating mental illness'

 

[AnOminous]

Chris isn't as stupid as most people think, he actually has normal IQ, or close enough to normal.

He's just insane now.

I think he started out normal, not really a slow-in-the-mind, but autists like Chris, especially when they have no real treatment, tend to go into decline and revert back to autistic behaviors. He may have actually lost IQ points. In any event if you gave him an IQ test he'd be too sluggish and lazy to score that much above borderline retard.

The dream scenario would be this going to Circuit Court and then having his psych stuff filed for some reason. Too bad that's not going to happen.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I think he started out normal, not really a slow-in-the-mind, but autists like Chris, especially when they have no real treatment, tend to go into decline and revert back to autistic behaviors. He may have actually lost IQ points. In any event if you gave him an IQ test he'd be too sluggish and lazy to score that much above borderline retard.

The dream scenario would be this going to Circuit Court and then having his psych stuff filed for some reason. Too bad that's not going to happen.

I'm sure if a pretty lady asked Chris for his psych eval, he'd show it to her. If/when he's released. I mean, he's already done it before for Kacey.

 

[Jack Awful]

Chris isn't as stupid as most people think, he actually has normal IQ, or close enough to normal.

He's just insane now.

I wonder where Chris would be if Borb actually let the school system get him the help he needed.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think he started out normal, not really a slow-in-the-mind, but autists like Chris, especially when they have no real treatment, tend to go into decline and revert back to autistic behaviors. He may have actually lost IQ points. In any event if you gave him an IQ test he'd be too sluggish and lazy to score that much above borderline retard.

The dream scenario would be this going to Circuit Court and then having his psych stuff filed for some reason. Too bad that's not going to happen.

I think that slow processing time is a learning disability in and of itself. Add the fact that Chris never really understands anything about life, and the picture becomes clearer.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

roughly halfway between an average adult and someone with socially debilitating mental illness'

Wouldn't that mean he's stupid? Not drooling non-functional, but just run-of-the-mill stupid? Stupid plus autism explains Chris' lack of understanding of the world pretty well. Ordinarily stupid people make up for some of it with social intuition (imagine a jock that's dumb but charismatic and socially adept), but Chris doesn't have that.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

You just have to look at his old high school homework. It's like it was written by a first grader. Smart autistic people learn very well academically. They have to, because they suck so bad at social intuition/empathy. Chris can't even figure out how to use a computer properly, which is why he kept using his game consoles for his creative projects.

My buddy's kid has autism, he's about seven now. His handwriting is better than Chris's, his art style is about what Chris's is in 2021, he can talk mostly normally, he understands how to bathe correctly, pay attention in school, loves all his teachers and can pick out things in conversations that happened days before. Honestly the only thing he shares with Chris is that he gets overly excited and does get loud, but at the same time, he can sometimes catch himself. Oh yes, and he loves jokes and riddles, so he is pretty gullible. But, at the same time, both his parents love and take care of him, and he is in the "special" classes at school, which his parents say really help since he's getting parental attention and instruction basically all day, morning noon and night.

So I don't think it's autism for most of Chris's giant failings, I think it's mostly due to how he was raised. Learning how to be lazy by his parents at an early age would have done it, given he was dumped off at sitters while his parents went and partied, and mix that in him being "special" made educators go easy on him, to a point.

Then again, there could be something diagnosed going on with Chris that nobody knew about it. Some Kiwis have speculated on that.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Wouldn't that mean he's stupid? Not drooling non-functional, but just run-of-the-mill stupid? Stupid plus autism explains Chris' lack of understanding of the world pretty well. Ordinarily stupid people make up for some of it with social intuition (imagine a jock that's dumb but charismatic and socially adept), but Chris doesn't have that.

Exactly. I do believe he has at least one learning disability plus God knows what else. Look at his schoolwork! Don't you think if Chris was capable of performing at an A minus or B plus, he would have used that to prove how intelligent he was? He couldn't even get basic school or community College work done properly.

 

[Hepativore]

Wouldn't that mean he's stupid? Not drooling non-functional, but just run-of-the-mill stupid? Stupid plus autism explains Chris' lack of understanding of the world pretty well. Ordinarily stupid people make up for some of it with social intuition (imagine a jock that's dumb but charismatic and socially adept), but Chris doesn't have that.

Could it also be something like untreated severe ADD, i.e. he is too scatterbrained and chaotic to actually focus on something long enough to actually think about it or apply himself like he should?

 

[Norman B. Normal]

I am unsure about how much of Chris' stupid behavior is from low IQ, how much is from his autism, and how much is from his lack of education.

You just have to look at his old high school homework. It's like it was written by a first grader. Smart autistic people learn very well academically. They have to, because they suck so bad at social intuition/empathy. Chris can't even figure out how to use a computer properly, which is why he kept using his game consoles for his creative projects.

His constant misuse of words even though definitions of them are a google search away. His lack of understanding of the world even though Wikipedia exists. An even remotely intelligent autistic person might not pick up that they were being trolled by PandaHalo, but would be able to understand that Australia is a huge country, and pull up a map of the bushfires and determine if they were in her location or not.

I tend to lean towards Chris being stupid though. Autism can't explain everything.

Chris's language skills are actually fairly well developed, considering that he's, y'know, Chris. Consider this page from Sonichu #0 from 2004-05:

Chris uses "two-bit" (correctly hyphenated, it should be noted) idiomatically here, but his use of "two cents" later is both a mild bit of parallel wordplay and a demonstration that he understands that two bits is a term for a quarter (and a somewhat outdated one at that, showing the breadth of his language acquisition). That's actually kind of impressive. He also describes himself as Sonichu's "intrusive creator," which is a thoroughly reasonable way to characterize his role in the story, and one he clearly came up with himself, as "intrusive creator" is not a common phrase. Also notice that he includes two bulleted lists and properly uses a colon to start both of them, which is a bit beyond elementary English.

Here's a page from Sonichu #6 from 2006-07, which I believe would have been the last issue he completed before the Internet started breaking his brain:

"A bit-o'-time later" is relaxed and colloquial and fits perfectly well with the tone of the story. Likewise with "Uh..."; it's somewhat unusual to see filler words like "uh" spelled out on the page, but it's something that would occur quite naturally in conversation and adds verisimilitude. Though Chris's usually spelling quirks and typos are present, all the sentences are constructed and punctuated correctly, despite some of the sentences being rather complex.

We can even look at the simple panel that confronts us every time we visit the front page of the CWCki:

"Some not-so-good news" is an example of a compound modifier, which is a multi-word phrase that is used to modify a noun or verb as if it were a single word. The words in a compound modifier are correctly connected with hyphens, as Chris has done here. It is well constructed and does not read as awkward or out of place.

To be clear, most of these are things that even average students pick up by the time they're 10 or 11. But it's one thing to understand these constructions and techniques, and quite another to be able to use them in writing, naturally and frequently, the way Chris does. A lot of people never really master it. If you don't believe me, go look at your relatives' Facebook posts.

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

I think it's pretty simple... Chris has average intelligence, but genius-level laziness and lack of motivation. In some alternate universe, there's a Chris who wasn't a deranged sex freak and I'm sure that Chris is a very pleasant grocery store employee with a moderately successful webcomic (and not for all the wrong reasons, like with Sonichu.) Chris should really be trying to merge with THAT dimension instead.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Could it also be something like untreated severe ADD, i.e. he is too scatterbrained and chaotic to actually focus on something long enough to actually think about it or apply himself like he should?

It would be impossible to diagnose since autism leads to severe deficits in executive functioning, which includes concentration and organization.