Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Ophelia]

I've been following this shit show of a saga since July and in the time since I don't recall ever hearing anything about Barb being in contact with Chris.

I think it was in the letter to Kengle which Chris told him to keep private. I remember something about Chris being worried about Barb because she wasn’t receiving his calls.

You're assuming that Barb is all there mentally.

Not all there, but not a puddle either.

Last few years or so she always had that "deer in the headlights" look about her when Chris put her on camera and didn't seem to be lucid.

Consider the possibility she was acting. Other times she’d be on camera and look old and not as sharp as she used to be, but not the big-eyed dementia patient she portrayed during planned appearances.

Sure, she could have deteriorated rapidly after trauma or simply because she’s old and that happens sometimes. She could be a sundowner, lucid during the day and out of it at night. She could be fine aside from the normal memory losses which often come with turning 80. Or she could be gone. We really don’t know and can’t know based on videos.

 

[The handsome tard]

Sure, she could have deteriorated rapidly after trauma or simply because she’s old and that happens sometimes. She could be a sundowner, lucid during the day and out of it at night. She could be fine aside from the normal memory losses which often come with turning 80. Or she could be gone. We really don’t know and can’t know based on videos.

Barb is a known manipulator

Also, there is also the fact that, assuming her brain is in a bad state, we cant say how bad things are up there since it affects everyone differently. Some people with dementia/alzeimers and stuff like that can seem completely normal one day and just snap into a forgettable state the next one instead of something consistent. There are good days, bad days and horrifying days with these conditions...

So these two factors combined, its really difficult to come up with something concrete.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Are you sure it happened?

No. But with Chris, it's a possibility.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Also, there is also the fact that, assuming her brain is in a bad state, we cant say how bad things are up there since it affects everyone differently. Some people with dementia/alzeimers and stuff like that can seem completely normal one day and just snap into a forgettable state the next one instead of something consistent. There are good days, bad days and horrifying days with these conditions...

Plus, Chris was managing whatever drugs she was taking as part of him "taking care of her". Hopefully not for a political rating, but you can see with Biden the differences of when he can be completely with it, and then other days, he looks like he has no idea where he is. I kind of doubt Barbara is that bad, and I really don't think her old woman issues are as heavy as Chris and others have let on. Usually when people get to that age, they do strange stuff, or get into mischief, but Chris never talked about having to wrangle Barb, or claiming that she forgot things, or any of the other stuff that people who take care of elderly people with mental issues would talk about.

Take his jail communications. If Barb was as all screwed up as some theories say, he never once expressed concern for that. "Oh no, Barb's all alone at home and can't do anything for herself". Instead, it was all about money, and what really set Chris off was people not giving Barb any money, which, I'm sure is one reason Barb was still talking to Chris up until the point she wasn't. Her family might have intervened, but given Barb's history, I wouldn't completely discredit a theory that since he couldn't get her the tardbux, what good was he?

 

[The handsome tard]

Plus, Chris was managing whatever drugs she was taking as part of him "taking care of her". Hopefully not for a political rating, but you can see with Biden the differences of when he can be completely with it, and then other days, he looks like he has no idea where he is. I kind of doubt Barbara is that bad, and I really don't think her old woman issues are as heavy as Chris and others have let on. Usually when people get to that age, they do strange stuff, or get into mischief, but Chris never talked about having to wrangle Barb, or claiming that she forgot things, or any of the other stuff that people who take care of elderly people with mental issues would talk about.

Take his jail communications. If Barb was as all screwed up as some theories say, he never once expressed concern for that. "Oh no, Barb's all alone at home and can't do anything for herself". Instead, it was all about money, and what really set Chris off was people not giving Barb any money, which, I'm sure is one reason Barb was still talking to Chris up until the point she wasn't. Her family might have intervened, but given Barb's history, I wouldn't completely discredit a theory that since he couldn't get her the tardbux, what good was he?

Then again, Chris is stupid and selfish...he couldn't detect mental problems from a fucking mile away. It's possible he could look at Barb's worsening condition and be like "ohhhh well, what you think sonichu? ......oh indeed, I do think she just needs some rest and meal replacement milk shakes! Yaaaaaay!"

And let's not act like Chris hasn't already left ditched barb just to save his own skin, remember the games stop fiasco? He ditched her at the mall and escaped in his car...not sure what was his plan there assuming the cops somehow didn't get him. Sneak back into the mall to get her? I should take that to the What if thread for sure

 

[AnOminous]

Plus, Chris was managing whatever drugs she was taking as part of him "taking care of her".

I just wonder if he ever saved them up and messed with the doses to "help her relax" for his "healing sessions."

 

[Sharkbait]

I just wonder if he ever saved them up and messed with the doses to "help her relax" for his "healing sessions."

While morally I wouldn't put it past him, he's too dumb for that.

 

[AnOminous]

While morally I wouldn't put it past him, he's too dumb for that.

He literally went and got a book about how to rape crippled old geezers. That's more effort than he's ever put into anything else.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Consider the possibility she was acting. Other times she’d be on camera and look old and not as sharp as she used to be, but not the big-eyed dementia patient she portrayed during planned appearances.

It's possible but she doesn't strike me as acting. Just before this I caught up on the GenoSamuel documentary and there were several instances of her in there interacting with Chris and she never appeared to be all there. Was it an act? Who knows. All I know is that she had no reason, as far as I can tell, to act that way.

I just wonder if he ever saved them up and messed with the doses to "help her relax" for his "healing sessions."

Doubt he's that clever. That would involve things like foresight and Chris can't see past the next few minutes.

He literally went and got a book about how to rape crippled old geezers. That's more effort than he's ever put into anything else.

But that was in his desire to get off. I think sex is always at the back of his mind.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Barb is a known manipulator

Also, there is also the fact that, assuming her brain is in a bad state, we cant say how bad things are up there since it affects everyone differently. Some people with dementia/alzeimers and stuff like that can seem completely normal one day and just snap into a forgettable state the next one instead of something consistent. There are good days, bad days and horrifying days with these conditions...

So these two factors combined, its really difficult to come up with something concrete.

Dementia and Alzheimers also have daily cycles or rythems. Even early stage patients tend to "Sundown". They may seem lucid all day but get much worse in the late afternoon and early evening. They will seemingly be two different people over the course of the day.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

You're assuming that Barb is all there mentally. Last few years or so she always had that "deer in the headlights" look about her when Chris put her on camera and didn't seem to be lucid. So part of me even wonders if she knew what was going on when Chris was raping her.

And if she's got dementia, which she probably has at least a touch of, then could it be that she's forgotten it all and is just wondering why her baby boy isn't around anymore?

Consider the possibility she was acting.

I'm sorry I don't buy the acting excuse. Rate me TMI or whatever, but I've dealt directly with people with dementia. First, the acting rumor came from user Marvin, someone who never interacted with Barb in person, only through prank phone calls a decade ago afaik. Plus she has seriously declined since that time.

Also, Chris himself said he attended classes at his local hospital for learning how to care for Dementia patients, why would he do this? For fun? To perpetuate the grift? They're not that clever, and of course in classic CWC fashion he turned it into all about himself and how he might have dementia when talking about it.

Dementia is an odd illness, sundowning is definitely a thing. and there's no way Barb is not suffering from dementia. It's extremely obvious in every video, unless you buy into the acting conspiracy theory.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Also, Chris himself said he attended classes at his local hospital for learning how to care for Dementia patients, why would he do this?

Referencing him talking about those classes, it looks like they're just general caregiver classes for general elderly care, rather than ones on taking care of people with mental decline. I'm sure it was touched on, but the one day a week class, especially for Chris, probably just contained general how to help old people things.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

Referencing him talking about those classes, it looks like they're just general caregiver classes for general elderly care, rather than ones on taking care of people with mental decline. I'm sure it was touched on, but the one day a week class, especially for Chris, probably just contained general how to help old people things.

He touched on it more in tweets, and another stream that I can't be assed to dig up. Last time this was discussed the classes at Martha Jefferson on wednesday during 2017 were these https://seniornavigator.org/taxonomy/menu-zone/alzheimers-and-dementia. There used to be a schedule years ago but they've since changed the santara martha jefferson website. While it was a general elder care class it's focus was on Alzheimers and Dementia. This is when he started making tweets about him having dementia.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Chris may as well be in Area 51 by this point.

This is becoming worse than Spoony speculation. 1000% conjecture and running around in circles.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

Chris has been out of contact long enough that I think it warrants speculation as to what he will be like:

Ending 1 - Same Shit, Different Day
Chris manages to resist meaningful change, leaving psychiatric care with his God complex intact. He returns to social media to evangelize Neo-Christianity and continues the fight with the no-good hating trolls, who are as numerous as ever

Ending 2 - Punished "Venom" Chris
Months of confinement doped up on anti-psychotics / sedatives break down Chris. He doesn't talk about the Sonichu Goddess stuff anymore, but he also doesn't really talk about much of anything. His online presence dries up, and with it, christorians and trolls alike move on.

Ending 3 - Downward Spiral (Bad Ending)
Rather than improving or at least mitigating his mental health issues, Chris emerges more delusional than ever. His posts become almost unreadable, even to dedicated followers, and his life is paralyzed by his mental illness. Chris spends the rest of his life in and out of both trouble with the law and psychiatric care, and never fully recovers.

Ending 4 - A Shred of Hope (Good Ending)
Somehow, someway, one of the staff in the psych ward manages to get through to Chris. He realizes how people have used and manipulated him with his delusions, and how he's hurt so many people, especially his mother. The path is long and rough, but Chris actually changes for the better.

Ending 5 - ???
No one ever hears from Chris again. We speculate and investigate all we like, but nothing ever turns up, for years and years. One day, barely noticed by the online world, a death certificate appears.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

Ending 3 - Downward Spiral (Bad Ending)
Rather than improving or at least mitigating his mental health issues, Chris emerges more delusional than ever. His posts become almost unreadable, even to dedicated followers, and his life is paralyzed by his mental illness. Chris spends the rest of his life in and out of both trouble with the law and psychiatric care, and never fully recovers.

I'd put money on this ending, unfortunately. Autistic people have unbalanced copper/zinc ratios with too much copper and too little zinc, which causes or contributes to various mental health problems. Many drugs make the problem worse, including both estradiol, which transwomen take, and the SSRIs and SNRIs that the modern mental health care system hands out like candy. The vast majority of mainstream healthcare providers are totally unaware of this. The modern mental health care system switches between various antidepressants quite a bit as one stops working or develops intolerable side-effects; sooner or later Chris will hit one that completely devastates him, and he'll be in a bad living situation and too dumb and too wrapped up in fantasy to deal with it.

 

[Holiday Special]

Barb might have significant hearing loss, which would explain the way looked at the weens and Chris. Hearing aids can run into the thousands of dollars, money she does not have since Chris saved CWCville from the giant moon laser.

 

[AnOminous]

Barb might have significant hearing loss, which would explain the way looked at the weens and Chris. Hearing aids can run into the thousands of dollars, money she does not have since Chris saved CWCville from the giant moon laser.

If she has coverage under Medicare Part C it might cover part or all of it. Not sure if she's together enough to have arranged that before she started losing her mind.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I hope someone told him they finally made 14BC a Poke Stop

It's only a truck stop where Barb gets poked.

 

[Ophelia]

Chris never talked about having to wrangle Barb, or claiming that she forgot things,

I remember someone referring to Chris saying she was forgetting things. Like he was afraid of her losing memories. Which is something that happens with normal elderly people, not just those with dementia.

It's possible but she doesn't strike me as acting.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

All I know is that she had no reason, as far as I can tell, to act that way.

No reason? Money, attention, and the satisfaction of pulling one over on others! Three of the Chandler’s favorite things.

(Power level, I have experience with elderly people with Alzheimer’s and elderly people who just get slower as they age)