Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[AnOminous]

Is viziepop making these mini-episode shittier and shittier in order to prove everyone that we need the gay shit, otherwise the show wouldn't have been entertaining?
Because this one is painfully unfunny...

She might be imitating how Lackadaisy is doing vignettes (that are much better).

Another incest joke. Who do you think in the crew has this fetish guys? One of the writers? One of the storyboard artists? A compositor? Place your bets down below.

I'm going for every single fucking one of them.

 

[Gondolindrim]

The next episode ain't until October, so they're giving us these occasional shorts to help "pass the time" till then.

Ironically, the time they spent on these shorts could've been made into more episodes.

 

[Trollblade69]

She might be imitating how Lackadaisy is doing vignettes (that are much better).

Is Lackadaisy good? I'll eventually have no choice but to watch it since there are no good cartoons anymore and I'm looking for something to snort.

 

[LucasSomething]

Of course, the one time Blitzo ACTUALLY kills a target it's a joke character that explicitly wants to die and gets isekai'd to hell anyway. I'm still standing that blitzo won't "murder" anyone this season because not even in this shorts they have the balls to make Blitzo kill an innocent person anymore.

This short will be funny or annoying depending on how much of a dead horse do you think making fun of weeb/shippers/fanfic writers actually is. If you think it's original then haha lucky you, if you think the target is too easy, safe and mainstream to land then it's not funny.

But there's also another thing in question... that necklace she wore. Does this imply that mere random angelic items can basically guard its wearer? Does this imply that angelic stuff outside of Heaven can affect demons, even if that angelic stuff isn't from Heaven itself? I know the shorts are probably "non-canon" but this opens a lot of theories about the unknown implication of random man made "angelic" devices or wears that can protect its wearer. This literally can be explored upon now that I think about it but... what am I saying. They just wrote anything for this short and they know 99% of the viewers won't care to question that.

If a shitty cosplay pendant is actually magical then wouldn't a silver crucifix necklace work too? Or did Blitzo never kill someone with one? If vivzie ever get pressured enough she'd probably call it non canon than try to work through the implications...

 

[CyrusHowler]

Who do you think in the crew has this fetish guys

Viv.

I am so sick of yaoi and yuri.

I’m bisexual and I roll my eyes at most of it these days.
When actual homos and bisexuals are tired of it, you know it’s gone too far.

Is Lackadaisy good?

Yes.

 

[Fiwi Karmer 69420]

Is Lackadaisy good? I'll eventually have no choice but to watch it since there are no good cartoons anymore and I'm looking for something to snort.

I really like lackadaisy personally, probably my favorite project next to murder drones. Though, I really only recommend the comic so far. The pilot is good but there's just some stylistic things I didn't really care for. The story is well thought out compared to HH or HB (low bar I know). The characters are also consistent and not all just made uwu sad bois and stuff. The art and detail with early 1900's Missouri is stunning in my opinion and I'm glad someone mentioned it in this thread again. I love this project and I hope you love it too.

 

[Tablet County]

This short will be funny or annoying depending on how much of a dead horse do you think making fun of weeb/shippers/fanfic writers actually is.

I'm sorry, what website are we on?

 

[ssaneenah]

Ever since I saw the pilot of Helluva Boss I felt that the creators were uncertain on which demographic they wanted the series to be for - it has a few no-no words, cartoon gore and a lot of implied gay sex, so it can't be deemed for kids below middle-school level, but it feels too corny and childish for any adult to enjoy who has at least watched a few episodes of Rick and Morty and is not a manchild or a creepy basement dweller. After nearly five years, I'm afraid to assume that the team behind Helluva Boss has absolutely no clue about whom their audience consists of. It's kind of represented in the merch that they sell - all of those designs feel like an objectivization of their characters and everything is either super edgy or super horny. They might think their audience is just the non-individualistic fanboys who leave comments under their videos and write on their squalor of a subreddit, but this whole KiwiFarms thread is the proof that their cartoons are being watched by folks with actual critical thinking who want their shows to be better than what they expect it to be. I really hope they don't see this girl as a representation of their fandom...

Spoiler: A lot of rambling about HB

Being previously familiar with Vivziepop's works, like her FurAffinity or that Kesha AMV that she made private for some reason, and seeing her as another furry artist with mildly intriguing aspiring ideas, I expected it to be a DeviantArt OC bait disguised as an unhinged and overly wacky cartoon that introverted potatoes like myself can enjoy. I've been consuming a big load of that eccentric Hot Topic style shit during my school years and even though I really wanted to, I didn't anticipate any strong writing ideas or character development from a project lead by VivziePop. Nevertheless, after watching the first season I've spotted an interesting premise of pointing out the hypocrisy, double standards and overall dirty nature of the humanity (Vivzie mentioned the show Invader Zim as an influence for how dumb and pitiful the humanity was represented there), which I thought could be a fine sitcom-like premise for a show with goofy cartoon characters that you don't need to know much about in the first place: you've got an angsty, mocking, yet dorky petty tyrant that doesn't put up with anyone's bullshit and does his job for a quick buck for the sake fun of it, with his colleagues - a sentimental sidekick that questions the moral standards of the world and the main character that opposes them, and his cheerful and generous wife. Even Loona can be implemented as a more introverted and apathetic version of Blitz, she's just an emo dog from someone's notebook.

I find Brandon's humour to my liking, but I really think that it may have used more edge - not in a thoughtlessly obnoxious way though, mindless dropping of taboo words and making references to tragic events won't impress anyone with the IQ equivalent to a three-digit number. In my country every new Helluva Boss episode ends up on the #1 spot in YouTube charts. However, every episode with censored dildos and particularly that one where Stella called Stolas a cunt did not end up there at all. Sure, pushing the boundaries of what topics could be touched on a self-proclaimed family-friendly platform is very risky, they don't want their cartoon to get demonetized and this ain't Newgrounds, but there are plenty of things so few creators cover in their entertainment-oriented content. Helluva Boss episodes could revolve around the topics of meaningless decision making due to the lack of objective knowledge, coping with someone's exaggerated problems, the downside of remaining neutral in critical situations, rejection of natural norms, severe social withdrawal, unreliable relationships, porn addiction and nihilism, to name a few. All these things are much more sensitive to humanity, because they'd make anyone uncomfortable and not just the ultra-traditional or ultra-liberal people with imaginary nitpicks. Plus, I doubt any of them will get a video demonetized.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

I don't think it's about the fetish. "Basically incest" is one of those common fandom phrases bandied about by shippers to defame rival ships, particularly She-Ra fans opposing Adora and Catra as a couple. IMO it's the best joke in the video if that's deliberate.

I just took it as making fun of shipping autism. I thought it was funny.

Normally, I would agree with you. But the Unhappy Campers episode with Millie and Moxxie pretending to be siblings, and the rumor that Viv was originally going to have Stella and Andrealphus in an incestuous relationship, well...once or twice, could be overlooked. But when it keeps appearing, some eyebrows are going to be raised.

 

[Tablet County]

Normally, I would agree with you. But the Unhappy Campers episode with Millie and Moxxie pretending to be siblings, and the rumor that Viv was originally going to have Stella and Andrealphus in an incestuous relationship, well...once or twice, could be overlooked. But when it keeps appearing, some eyebrows are going to be raised.

I still think it was funny.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Tbh, if I was the one in charge, I would've made stolas the antagonist; make him more sinister and occasionally forcing them to kill specific targets for free, under the threat of doing stuff such as consuming their soul if they were to refuse/fail. Him fucking blitzo and some of the gay shit can stay, but also be far more abusive, as the imp is forced to please his boss's pervesion because he's scared of what could happen if he were to say no.
Make said assassinatiosn ordered by stolas feel different from the normal ones, maily by having its targets be clearly undeserving or trying to run away instead of fighting back, while also the imps being a lot more serious and the target being clearly connected to a larger plot, which maybe could be by explained by having that demons that goes to the human world suffer some kind disease or poisoning if they stay too long and imps are either immune or resistant to it, and that the single reason stolas desires specific people to be eliminated is because they are in the way of a bunch of cultists, which plan to summon him in the human world, which would let him bypass the common issues that goes when traveling via portal, something that has slowly weakened blitzo and the others or often results with them being often sick after each kill.
That too has also the opportunity to develop characters by forcing others to not be part of an episode due to them being sick after what happened during the previous one, which could also lead to interesting scenarios, such as all members of the team but one being forced to take part of an exhausting mission and come back all in need to rest, only to recieve a particularly urgent order form stolas, which would force that one character that dind't went to the previous mission to journey all alone.

 

[Purple Threat]

So far this is the only post-season 1 content to actually make me laugh.

I have fandom friends who are exactly like this and everything, from the "she needs to die because she shipped this 7yrs ago" to the fucking cat kneesocks, is painfully accurate.

I only wished she screamed when she died, or you see her pop into hell and get greeted with "L.A but red" instead of some sexy harem dungeon fantasy.

Kinda felt like they had all this setup with no punchline.

 

[Castoreum]

I only wished she screamed when she died, or you see her pop into hell and get greeted with "L.A but red" instead of some sexy harem dungeon fantasy.

Kinda felt like they had all this setup with no punchline.

Or she poofs into hell excited to be buttfucked by demons and then it turns out they're all gay and won't touch her.

She gave me Pepe Le Pew vibes, so the writers could've gone all-in on a reference and made her sexually assault the poor uwu gay demons while they run away screaming, "AAAH RUN A FUJOSHI!!!"

 

[Obstacle]

She might be imitating how Lackadaisy is doing vignettes (that are much better).

I'm going for every single fucking one of them.

Show isn't really my bag, but I vaguely know somebody who's done work on it.
They say the chick who wrote and drew the original comic (which I have read) is actually a sweet girl who just likes drawing cats in suits.
But the production is based out of California, so there's a lot of "keeping your head down" involved.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I think a serious story based around the backdrop of abarhamic religious lore would be geniuonly intresting more than any greek myth in my opinion. Unfortunatly a bunch of leftists would use such a show to insert their politics into it.

They would find a way to shit over it, and probably "subvert" it in the most retarded way possible.

She might be imitating how Lackadaisy is doing vignettes (that are much better).

I'm going for every single fucking one of them.

EDIT: I heard things about this show, not much but a few things. Is it any good? Seems like a Noir thing but with cats. That by itself seems interesting.

 

[ssaneenah]

I wish that there were more subtle references to the other works voice actors involved, like Moxxie wearing an outfit mildly resembling Raz from Psychonauts or Blitz mimicking one of Brandon’s lesser known characters. Give it to the right people and they will execute it in the most charming and non-pretencious way possible.

 

[A Grey Cat]

whats the point in having a hell themed cartoon when there's not eric harris, dylan klebold, hitler, shadow the hedgehog and broly in it???

Hitler got a mention like...a lifetime ago in the first full episode but that's about it.

Or she poofs into hell excited to be buttfucked by demons and then it turns out they're all gay and won't touch her.

Is no one pointing out the terrible message this short has? That dying and ending up in hell could be a reward if you're the kinda person into that sort of thing? Cause this emberlynn chick seems to be getting a fair deal for someone who let an obsession with anime lead to demonology and eventually damnation.

I'm just saying it's giving borderline 13 reasons why or it chapter two vibes.

If a shitty cosplay pendant is actually magical then wouldn't a silver crucifix necklace work too?

It's according to emberlynn a cheap novelty costume piece from one of her shows. Why DOES it work like it's real? As someone mentioned that's like if only Chris's medallion wasn't a filthy festering hunk of Crayola fucking model magic amd actually granted the big lummox powers in a world where he's a nobody.


And yes there's some wiggle room for that since this is a cartoon about heaven and hell where magic and stuff like that exists. But why WASN'T it a silver cross pendant?

I'd say it's cause vivziepop only wants to be safe edgy but not too edgy for the sake of edgy, but that kinda of edgy evokes (or insults) Christian symbols all the time. Mainly cause while Christians will still get butthurt over being mocked, they're not exactly the faith that ties people to burning stakes or breaks every bone in their bodies on giant wooden wheels anymore.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Is no one pointing out the terrible message this short has? That dying and ending up in hell could be a reward if you're the kinda person into that sort of thing? Cause this emberlynn chick seems to be getting a fair deal for someone who let an obsession with anime lead to demonology and eventually damnation.

I think it’s because this short is completely played as a joke.

It would be far different if this had the same tone as the melodrama in the main series. And the weeb’s death was played off to evoke feels, which thankfully it isn’t.

You can get away with a lot of stuff if it’s treated as dumb goofy shit.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I think it’s because this short is completely played as a joke.

It would be far different if this had the same tone as the melodrama in the main series. And the weeb’s death was played off to evoke feels, which thankfully it isn’t.

You can get away with a lot of stuff if it’s treated as dumb goofy shit.

So in other words:

Just write all your crappy inconsistencies off as "jokes." Good one vivzie.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

So in other words:

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Just write all your crappy inconsistencies off as "jokes." Good one vivzie.

I mean yeah, no one would care unless you decide to suddenly make your comedy cartoon into a drama meant to be taken seriously-

Oh wait a minute, nevermind.