ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

[Bloitzhole]

I'm always looking for new ones.

Wash a pound of rice, throw it in a big oven proof dish. Add a ton of cumin, paprika, chilli, pepper and a generous dose of salt. Always err on the side of too much spice. If you ever go past the limit, you'll know for next time, but if you only ever season carefully, you'll never reach that "just right" point. Big splash of olive oil, mix it all up so the rice is well coated in oil and spice. 2 cans of beans (I like kidney, but any bean will work I reckon), a can (or two, if you are so inclined) of corn. Add 500 ml tomato purée and 500 ml chicken stock (that's 2 cups each for the Americans). Even it all out, wrap tightly in foil so the steam can't escape - in the oven at 380F (190°C) for 80 minutes. Total prep time ~10 minutes, which is perfect because that's roundabout the time the oven needs to get to the right temp.

Makes 6-7 portions for me, total cost around 4-5$ (meaning less than a dollar per serving), toppings included. Refrigerates well for 5 days, easily warms up in a microwave within 3 minutes whenever you need a quick meal - also great if you have an insulated food jar for on the go, keeps warm in mine for at least 5 hours. Grate over some cheddar or other cheese if you feel like it, scallions are nice too. Add some peanuts and you have a really filling meal that contains everything the body needs (and peanuts and rice go really well together in general). Fry an egg if you have the time, a nice runny yolk elevates this meal to a completely new level. I find that I can go an entire day with two portions (morning and evening) of this and a snack inbetween (usually some mozzarella cheese, few dried tomatoes, little vinegar, little olive oil. Both dirt cheap where I usually live).

And since being too emotionally drained to cook was brought up - cooking can be a genuine source of enjoyment if approached as an opportunity to create and continuously improve an arsenal of meals that is capable of making people happy. A simple but well cooked meal can make just about anyone the world over happy.

 

[GunnlaugurSassoon]

No one is talking about or reacting to a study, though. No one is disputing the fact that people who are 400 pounds are fucked in the head. We're reacting to the fact that Canada is now claiming that "obesity is not defined by one's weight or size" and that their medical guidelines will now include a chapter on weight stigma aka fatphobia. It's ridiculous.

Sorry, but this is factually incorrect. The headline of a BBC article says that Canada says that obesity is not defined by weight. The study was not about defining obesity. The study never said "obesity should not be defined by one's weight or size". The study was done to attempt to determine to best way for medical practitioners to treat obesity in their patients, and their suggestion was to not treat it as if a patient came in during a yearly check up 15 pounds overweight and the doctor tells them to eat less, but to treat obesity as if they were treating a chronic disease because the 500 pound woman won't just stop eating as much because a doctor tells them to.

There is no redefinition of obesity anywhere in the study.

 

[Pistoleer]

Nobody wants to live off of shitty soup. You seem to forget that humans want to actually enjoy the food they're eating. You don't need to eat "vegan all organic spoon fed bullshit," in fact most of that is just marketing nonsense from the "health food" industry. But if you think someone legitimately wants to eat soup for breakfast, you're fucking insane.



not gonna lie it kinda sounds like you've never lived in poverty lol

Now you’re just being willfully obtuse, I’m not talking a bout soup for three meals a day. Learn to read, I said one example of dozens. I just used the soup because it’s easy healthy and my god children love it. As far as being poor goes growing up my parents together never made 25k a year together. Hell I only make 26k a year myself now. We never ate fast food, we cooked everything. Always healthy never went hungry and we ate pretty well. Sure we didn’t have lots of things like new cars or the latest video games but we didn’t go without. The point I’m making my dude is that It’s totally doable within a capitalist system. Just takes learning a few applicable skills. You sound like someone who’s never even tried to eat well on a budget, or you just live in some shit hole city where everything is over priced. If that’s the case then I totally understand and you have my condolences.

 

[ethical]

Now you’re just being willfully obtuse, I’m not talking a bout soup for three meals a day. Learn to read, I said one example of dozens. I just used the soup because it’s easy healthy and my god children love it. As far as being poor goes growing up my parents together never made 25k a year together. Hell I only make 26k a year myself now. We never ate fast food, we cooked everything. Always healthy never went hungry and we ate pretty well. Sure we didn’t have lots of things like new cars or the latest video games but we didn’t go without. The point I’m making my dude is that It’s totally doable within a capitalist system. Just takes learning a few applicable skills.

Are you autistic? honest question, there, because it seems you're projecting your experiences onto others. The statistics do not lie, and the statistics show that you are wrong. Apparently, you're a special snowflake. Congratulations.

You sound like someone who’s never even tried to eat well on a budget, or you just live in some shit hole city where everything is over priced. If that’s the case then I totally understand and you have my condolences.

I was a bodybuilder living off of 60 dollars a week. I know what I'm talking about, here.

 

[TenMilesWide]

I was a bodybuilder living off of 60 dollars a week. I know what I'm talking about, here.

lol fuckin bet, pics or it didn't happen

 

[ethical]

lol fuckin bet, pics or it didn't happen

I have zero interest in doxxing myself

 

[TenMilesWide]

I have zero interest in doxxing myself

So you're lying, is what you're telling me.

 

[Pistoleer]

Are you autistic? honest question, there, because it seems you're projecting your experiences onto others. The statistics do not lie, and the statistics show that you are wrong. Apparently, you're a special snowflake. Congratulations.



I was a bodybuilder living off of 60 dollars a week. I know what I'm talking about, here.

Look man, I don’t know if you’re trying to get a rise out of me or what, but you suck at it. I said before that it was anecdotal, and I’m most certainly projecting my experience. Which is the point. You may not know this but arguing a statistic as cause is incorrect for one simple reason. Correlation does not equal causation. What you have is an inference, you infer that because statistically more poor people tend to be fat then poverty is the reason. That just isn’t provable and is not how statistics work. Because all it takes is one person checking all the poverty boxes but not being fat and it falls apart. But by all means link me the study you’re getting the figures from and I’ll take a look. I’m always happy to be proven wrong.

 

[chantalisfat]

Maybe those in favor of the new guidelines should try reading them.
Here's a handy link: https://obesitycanada.ca/guidelines/chapters/

Here are a few gems pulled from the very beginning of the "weight bias" chapter:

"We recommend that healthcare providers avoid making assumptions that an ailment or complaint a patient presents with is related to their body weight."

"Examples of explicit weight bias include assumptions that people living with obesity are lazy, unmotivated, lacking self-discipline or willpower, and non- compliant with medical treatment."

"Like other forms of discrimination, including racism, weight discrimination is associated with increased risk for morbidity. There are physiological mechanisms that may contribute to this increased risk to physical health, such as increased chronic stress, which can increase cortisol levels, and oxidative stress independent of adiposity level."

" There is extensive literature documenting weight bias and stigma across a range of health professionals, including physicians, nurses, dietitians, psychologists and healthcare trainees."

"One longitudinal study has also shown that perceiving weight discrimination is associated with a 60% increase in mortality risk."

 

[Chad Nasty]

When you're coming home from an eight to ten hour day at work, it's a lot harder to prepare a meal once you get home. Sure, you could meal prep over the weekend...but that's assuming

• that you even have a proper "weekend"
• that you have the time after you've taken care of everything else you have to do on your days off
• that you have the physical and emotional energy to meal prep
• that you have access to affordable and health-optimal grocery stores in the first place

capitalism is inherently oppressive to the working class, and this is one of many reasons why. You might think it's easier and cheaper to buy and prepare food yourself, but the statistics simply do not line up with that reality. Obesity and poverty go hand-in-hand.

Sperg all you want but the facts are facts. The statistics don't lie. Poverty and obesity go hand-in-hand, and the relevant experts all agree on why.

Good thing correlation is causation, eh? You know what else goes hand in hand: like obesity and low intelligence, obesity and office jobs, a ~20% difference in obesity of AA men and women who are supposedly the most oppressed group. But nah, its low income for sure. I must have had jesus at the wheel when I was dirt poor but had some nice aesthetics. You can call it sperging for calling out your faggy analysis. Go take your soyboy facts back to the reddit fitness fags.

#Postphysique or suck my sack.

I couldn't stop being a fat bitch because I was poor not because I didn't have the discipline to research or exercise

ftfy, learn portion control retard. Calorie rich foods can be eaten less and still meet your TDEE and meat based diets are better anyways. Faggy carb heavy and the "rich people organic produce" bullshit based on flawed studies.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

If those are just a few things pulled from the paper or presentation, I'm not rushing to read it just yet. When I first saw the headlines last night that Canadian doctors were going to be urged to approach how THEY view obesity differently, I groaned. No doubt some doctors don't like working with the obese just as some don't like working with addicts but the risks involved with a higher body weight are not bias dependent.

 

[Negative Nancy Drew]

How cucked. Even if the rest of it had a basis in fact rather than 'muh feelins', it's dangerous to make doctors not link obesity to obviously obesity related problems.
If Doctors actually buy this bullshit, obese people will be living even shorter lives.

 

[NotreallyPutin]

avoid making assumptions

>meanwhile on the CDC.gov page

>People who have obesity, compared to those with a normal or healthy weight, are at increased risk for many serious diseases and health conditions, including the following
>All causes of death (mortality)



sauce: https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/effects/index.html

The Virgin Public Health Agency of Canada V the Chad CDC

Get fucked leafs

Day of the rake can't come soon enough

 

[Pistoleer]

Good thing correlation is causation, eh? You know what else goes hand in hand: like obesity and low intelligence, obesity and office jobs, a ~20% difference in obesity of AA men and women who are supposedly the most oppressed group. But nah, its low income for sure. I must have had jesus at the wheel when I was dirt poor but had some nice aesthetics. You can call it sperging for calling out your faggy analysis.

#Postphysique or suck my sack.


ftfy

You left our being poor make you criminal. Just ask the black folks.

 

[Chad Nasty]

You left our being poor make you criminal. Just ask the black folks.

Got me there, the food you get in lockup is terrible for you. You destroyed my world dude.
I appreciate your levity dude, good man.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

Read the "Who We Are" section of their web page. I'm interpreting that as a thinly disguised BoPo outfit who happen to have charitable organization status. I can safely say no doctor I've dealt with over the past 10 years is about to open wide in preparation to swallow that bullshit.

Far kills. Period.

 

[Pistoleer]

Got me there, the food you get in lockup is terrible for you. You destroyed my world dude.
I appreciate your levity dude, good man.

I try to always keep things lite. Besides this thread is for laughing at fatties getting too serious about it is just silly. You want some fun in a thread head over to the “tomboy outback, goth ihop, femboy hooters, milf Denny’s” thread. Shit is hilarious.

 

[Chad Nasty]

I try to always keep things lite. Besides this thread is for laughing at fatties getting too serious about it is just silly. You want some fun in a thread head over to the “tomboy outback, goth ihop, femboy hooters, milf Denny’s” thread. Shit is hilarious.

Calling him a faggot was calling a spade a spade and honestly how I talk w/ bros.

 

[Pistoleer]

Calling him a faggot was calling a spade a spade and honestly how I talk w/ bros.

Me too, the whole treating statistics like facts shit does irritate me though.

 

[ethical]

Good thing correlation is causation, eh? You know what else goes hand in hand: like obesity and low intelligence, obesity and office jobs, a ~20% difference in obesity of AA men and women who are supposedly the most oppressed group. But nah, its low income for sure. I must have had jesus at the wheel when I was dirt poor but had some nice aesthetics. You can call it sperging for calling out your faggy analysis. Go take your soyboy facts back to the reddit fitness fags.

#Postphysique or suck my sack.


ftfy, learn portion control retard. Calorie rich foods can be eaten less and still meet your TDEE and meat based diets are better anyways. Faggy carb heavy and the "rich people organic produce" bullshit based on flawed studies.

Clearly you're too dumb to understand how poverty is a correlating factor for obesity, poor education, sedentary lifestyles. And yes, black people have higher rates of obesity...because black people are more likely to be poor. Because America is a deeply racist country.

I'm sure you'll try and deny all of that because this site is crawling with alt-right retards, but the facts are facts, america.