Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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I once had a close call, a few years ago.

I was laying in bed with a man, a man who I had known for years, and he says, out of the blue, "Tilapia, I have something to tell you, but don't be weird about it."

I say, "I'm listening."

He says, "So I think I might maybe be like, non-binary?"

I stare at the ceiling. "Yeah?"

"Yeah."

I wait.

He adds, "But obviously I'm not going to go by a new name or anything, or have you call me different pronouns. That'd be too dramatic."

I ask, "Okay, so.... nothing changes? You just feel a little non-binary sometimes?"

And he says, "Yeah."

I say, "Okay, good to know, thanks for telling me."

And that was that. I never heard about it again. To this day, he has not trooned out.

I believe my poker face saved us that day. I think if I would have freaked out, and told him point-blank that he was being retarded, that he would have just doubled down. But by simply not reacting, and hearing him out, he realized, through hearing his own words, how retarded he sounded.

I truly believe that I saved a man from the 41%, and saved the world from one more screeching troon.
 
I once had a close call, a few years ago.

I was laying in bed with a man, a man who I had known for years, and he says, out of the blue, "Tilapia, I have something to tell you, but don't be weird about it."

I say, "I'm listening."

He says, "So I think I might maybe be like, non-binary?"

I stare at the ceiling. "Yeah?"

"Yeah."

I wait.

He adds, "But obviously I'm not going to go by a new name or anything, or have you call me different pronouns. That'd be too dramatic."

I ask, "Okay, so.... nothing changes? You just feel a little non-binary sometimes?"

And he says, "Yeah."

I say, "Okay, good to know, thanks for telling me."

And that was that. I never heard about it again. To this day, he has not trooned out.

I believe my poker face saved us that day. I think if I would have freaked out, and told him point-blank that he was being retarded, that he would have just doubled down. But by simply not reacting, and hearing him out, he realized, through hearing his own words, how retarded he sounded.

I truly believe that I saved a man from the 41%, and saved the world from one more screeching troon.

On behalf of the farms (and the taxpayers!) I’d like extend a warm “Thank you!” To you!

(And to your presumably impressive vagina, for keeping him on the straight path!)

I wonder what he would have said if you had asked: “What does it mean to feel non-binary?”
 
If my sister wanted to LARP as my brother, I'd treat her like a brother that's making an asshole of himself and hurting the family, and slap some fucking sense into them.
I'm not suggesting you do this literally, (as tempting as it may be for you, don't bro) but she needs sitting down (preferably if you can maneuver her into a car ride where she's trapped and can't bail for the fifteen or so minutes it'll take to give her some home truths) and giving some cold, hard facts, about what a fucking selfish idiot she's being, how she's hurting your parents, you, and herself, and how the fucking freaks and weirdos that are indoctrinating her into this shit aren't her friends.
It might be too late, it might be pointless, but you got to try, it's family.
If she won't listen I'd cut her out of your life and most importantly keep her away from your kids, if you have any. If she's far gone she will try to get at them. It's how these faggots work.
Sorry you're going through this shit, random Kiwibro.
My parents have talked to her and straight up told her they'd never use her "real" name and stupid pronouns. My dad asked her if she was seriously going to distance herself and cut us off because we wouldn't use her pronouns or name, and she actually said yes. I think the part that hurts the most is that she shows literally no remorse. I can't cut her off because as much as this pisses me off, I love her. I'm not giving up hope, as foolish as that may be. She's one of those people who literally won't listen. I appreciate knowing that people like you are still out there, because it can feel like I'm the only sane one left sometimes. Thank you.
 
, is there really any sign that this genderspecial trend has a hope of dying down?
it might plateau but it won't go away. It will eventually be taken for granted that if a classroom has 50 kids at least a couple at the minimun will troon out and thats that, fact of modern life but there'll be more counter balance , kinda like with new age movement, a lot of cults ended up in tragedies that got mainstream coverage but is not like any of it went away "drinking the kool aid" made its way into popular vernacular for a reason and people still drink the kool aid.
 
I honestly think we’re going to have a rubber band snap. In the shorter term, it’ll be the rise of detransitioners, and I can almost guarantee the media’s new favorite victimhood narrative will be “I was part of a cult! Why did everyone I love stand idly by and let those evil doctors mutilate me?!”

But in the longer term, I think it’s just going to become unfashionable. Transsexuality itself has been around for a long time, but the for the past 8-10 years, it’s been a fad. The longer any fad goes on, the closer it gets to either wearing down to nobody caring or making a big deal about it anymore (so no motivation to “come out” for kudos), or actively becoming seen as some dorky thing that old losers do.

I’m slightly terrified about what will replace it, to be honest.
That last point struck me the other day.
Cos it does seem increasingly that this lunacy has run its course, or on its way that way,
But then I thought what will the new horror be
 
Not to mention the damage done to their wombs and bodies in general. Even healthy women can die in childbirth. Shit son, I had my first in the prime of my life, even then I lost teeth between the throwing up and baby taking the calcium straight from my bones and teeth then, after birth, my ligaments and joints didn't go back to their prior flexibility, I was in constant pain and discomfort for 5 years and had to use physio to retrain all of my pelvic muscles to hold things in place long enough to start healing. These aren't uncommon issues for the average woman either, we're an incredibly vulnerable animal when it comes to reproduction because our infants head size and that long a pregnancy on an upright animal.

Now imagine you give that animal poison that atrophies their entire reproductive system and eats at the density of their bones.

Even IF they go off the bloody poison before pregnancy you cannot reverse the damage already done. I cannot imagine just how much that haemorrhages the chances of them or their child getting through said already traumatic process safely....

Edit: Don't let this put you off kids btw, I'd do it all again even if I knew it was gonna be worse. Having a child is just that worth it. There isn't a purer, more powerful love in the world. That and kids are hilarious little bastards, you're never short entertainment or purpose.
Idk how much you wanna get MATI..
but this is a particularly galling case study by Exulansic on a hella dumb Tif, who got pregnant while on testosterone and now has - to what extent, unknown- a fucked up baby…

who she clearly resents and was open about wanting all through said pregnancy (which had to be induced very early) , but iS keeping custody of the kid as she is using her to grift money and attention..

 
The day after is the ceremony itself, and we show up to the event space and mingle with the crowd. So as that's going on, the mom of one of my sister's friends sees me and we start talking about old times. To my mom, she's like family, and they still hang out from time to time even today, so she's watched me grow up as well. And then her daughter, who I remember before she was even born, comes up and says hey to me. I can't remember who it is, and the mom reminds me that it's her daughter, only now she's decided she's a troon and has decided that she wants to be called, and I shit you not, Jester. I'm assuming that she named herself after some faggoty Undertale character knowing that she's only 12 now. The mom then proceeds to tell me that this was a recent occurrence, and that she's since given her daughter the means to transition, despite the fact that she's a fucking nurse and should know damn well that fucking with a kid's natural growth cycle is going to fuck her up for life. While it certainly didn't show on my face, I had to step out for a cig
If I had a kid who wanted to be called "Jester," the only thing she'd be transitioning into would be military school, ASAP.
 
Idk how much you wanna get MATI..
but this is a particularly galling case study by Exulansic on a hella dumb Tif, who got pregnant while on testosterone and now has - to what extent, unknown- a fucked up baby…

who she clearly resents and was open about wanting all through said pregnancy (which had to be induced very early) , but iS keeping custody of the kid as she is using her to grift money and attention..

I know the one you mean without even watching the video. I nearly put my fist through the fucking wall watching that dumb little selfish cunt the first time round, I'm not looking to see her face again.
That baby should be taken off her and her and her fucking dumbfuck boyfriend should be prosecuted.
 
Idk how much you wanna get MATI..
but this is a particularly galling case study by Exulansic on a hella dumb Tif, who got pregnant while on testosterone and now has - to what extent, unknown- a fucked up baby…

who she clearly resents and was open about wanting all through said pregnancy (which had to be induced very early) , but iS keeping custody of the kid as she is using her to grift money and attention..

Oh I've been watching that one play out. Baby doesn't seem to focus properly and seems well behind on their milestones. I can only compare to my own, but even that early on my daughter was aware, bright eyed, babbling and deeply curious about whatever was around her, her child just doesn't seem to display much of that at all, poor wee mite...

Nevermind 'sex' education, why the hell aren't young women being taught about pregnancy and what a delicate process it is?!

This is assuming ignorance and severe mental illness on her part. Her lack of concern alone is alarming. If she went in KNOWING this could harm her child then to the goddamn wall with her.
 
Oh I've been watching that one play out. Baby doesn't seem to focus properly and seems well behind on their milestones. I can only compare to my own, but even that early on my daughter was aware, bright eyed, babbling and deeply curious about whatever was around her, her child just doesn't seem to display much of that at all, poor wee mite...

Nevermind 'sex' education, why the hell aren't young women being taught about pregnancy and what a delicate process it is?!

This is assuming ignorance and severe mental illness on her part. Her lack of concern alone is alarming. If she went in KNOWING this could harm her child then to the goddamn wall with her.
yeah. i dont know a huge amount about the details of the devleopment markers, but the abby just...doenst seem to up much.
my mates super-baby could hold his head up on the day he was born!

mind you, he was born pretty late, and this girl in the video's one was very early, so...
i dont know if its fair to judge like for like exactly...i cant recall if she said 4 months or 4 weeks when he poor thing was 'working on holding her head up'....." :(

but those factors aside, it's still really just not looking good. :(

anyway.
not to mention the kid's just on her back all the time! mums off making videos, or making whatever, her little craft bullshit.. i cant think when i've ever seen a baby on its back that much, you've always got them in your arms, interacting with them, I bet its gonna get a flattened back of skull like a drug-den baby.
she's nowhere near being able to try and turn over and learn to crawl...its just grim.

the mother herself seem to have super low energy which is odd at 22 or whatever...might be because of being essentially in withdrawal from testosterone..
God what a mess of a system that baby came through.

No chance of bonding through feeding for that reticent mother, either, or any of the oxytocins for either of them.

For people with a friend / relative trooning out, a possibly helpful resource.
this might help, talking about the Why's, from the perspective of an introspective troon..

 
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interesting post and comments - more cracks of light breaking through everywhere


(reminder, if you dont have a reddit account- not that you'd need one to view this post- but on age restricted posts/profiles, where you're asked to log in- just change the URL from Reddit.com to Teddit.net )
 
I found this channel by accident when looking for examples of people who are actually gender critical/or are speaking out against trans ideology, and this is a very well-done video.


I am looking for more examples of such channels on YouTube, preferably people who are either apolitical or lean-left on the political spectrum, as I want to see if there is anybody left outside of the political right who is not brainwashed by trans activism.
 
I have a positive, rare, somewhat cringe but worth telling story where The Coom actually bought someone I know BACK from the brink - and it all started with a drunk conversation. I'm pretty sure it would earn me all of the puzzle-pieces and TMI reacts and I don't think this thread is the place unless someone genuinely wants the tale, I know there's a detrans thread, but this woman would hardly count as that either, as I've noticed most detrans tend to turn into cowdom by making that their personalities and just getting a different swathe of corrective surgeries. But all this to say, it's possible, it's rare: but it's possible. Some people do get sold the trans dream and some can pull back before it's too late.

Never lose faith kiwi frens.
 
Idk how much you wanna get MATI..
but this is a particularly galling case study by Exulansic on a hella dumb Tif, who got pregnant while on testosterone and now has - to what extent, unknown- a fucked up baby…

who she clearly resents and was open about wanting all through said pregnancy (which had to be induced very early) , but iS keeping custody of the kid as she is using her to grift money and attention..

This is why letting troons sterilize themselves is tempting to me. I do genuinely want them to not procreate.
 
I have a positive, rare, somewhat cringe but worth telling story where The Coom actually bought someone I know BACK from the brink - and it all started with a drunk conversation. I'm pretty sure it would earn me all of the puzzle-pieces and TMI reacts and I don't think this thread is the place unless someone genuinely wants the tale, I know there's a detrans thread, but this woman would hardly count as that either, as I've noticed most detrans tend to turn into cowdom by making that their personalities and just getting a different swathe of corrective surgeries. But all this to say, it's possible, it's rare: but it's possible. Some people do get sold the trans dream and some can pull back before it's too late.

Never lose faith kiwi frens.
Go on… You have my interest!
 
I found this channel by accident when looking for examples of people who are actually gender critical/or are speaking out against trans ideology, and this is a very well-done video.


I am looking for more examples of such channels on YouTube, preferably people who are either apolitical or lean-left on the political spectrum, as I want to see if there is anybody left outside of the political right who is not brainwashed by trans activism.

WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT GIGGLE?!

Worlds most inappropriate tick or what?
 
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