Mar-11-23 - Praetor interview

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Hogar Grupal said:
It's been on the CWCki for a long time, and whether you like it or not, it's a 'fact' that a lot of people remember when describing Chris or his personality on this forum. Even if there isn't proof and Chris is an unreliable narrator, you can't deny that this was the overall makeup of how Chris views relationships with other people.
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I normally don't do this but what'chu mean?

That Chris knows that all his beloved gal pals are paid off or that Chris wouldn't be someone's friend without some kind of payoff for himself (or both).
 
  • Chris has not touched his money from Praetor or the tugboat; only donations. He is planning to use this money to permanently hire Heilberg, and sue a couple people.
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I thought that he lost the tugboat while in jail? How much did he get from Praetor? I can't imagine it was all that much that he could permanently hire a lawyer
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I thought that he lost the tugboat while in jail? How much did he get from Praetor? I can't imagine it was all that much that he could permanently hire a lawyer
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I think it's put on hold or he may need to reapply for it once he gets out of the clink (if he does/can get it back).

Oh poor David, he should be promoted to saint hood for what he's doing.

Along with Michael Snyder.
 
Humbert Humbert said:
I know I’m late on this, but genuinely, who the fuck would see a taser with Chris’s signature on it and think, “man, I gotta cop this!” or conversely, “man, I could make a killing selling these!” (no puns intended)
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The youth of today are inane, dumb, and awful.

IsaacShraeder said:
I recall reading somewhere that he didn't pay them with cash money: The girls would get extra credit for social work in return for tolerating Chris, as Bob had supposedly devised this sheme together with the school's principal.
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Isn’t that mere speculation?
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I thought that he lost the tugboat while in jail?
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That's what I just said. You don't get any social security benefits while in jail. Just goes to show you how unreliable these idiot's information is. Dummies acting like you just get to rack up social security money while you're sitting in prison or jail. Idiots.

He can start collecting them again when he gets out, but he won't get back pay for that time he was sitting in jail or anything like that.
 
Glassshardballpit said:
Check that, David is talking with both Chris and Pratter now.

Give this poor fellow the Nobel prize!

I can promise you no one deserves it more.
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Honestly I'm amazed (afawk) he hasn't told them to fuck off. Considering everything else he's done to keep this case under wr

aps and chris from sharing any info on it. Then again praetor in some bizzare way are the closest thing to friends and family Chris has in the world. He may be letting them stay in contact in the event he has no other choice but to move forward to have chris released to them if no other group home will take him and they can't just kick cross out of the jail and expect him to survive on the street/virgina wilderness.
Ophelia said:
The youth of today are inane, dumb, and awful.


Isn’t that mere speculation?
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We have proof that they at least palled around with chris (the birthday photos) and tolerated him to a degree, but i can assure you even if chris was somewhat slimer and didn't smell like a homeless guy living in a dumpster back then he was not a guy girls as cute as they were would want to willingly be around.
 
The FAQ covers the tugboat question fairly well, though there are unknowns.

A Grey Cat said:
We have proof that they at least palled around with chris (the birthday photos) and tolerated him to a degree, but i can assure you even if chris was somewhat slimer and didn't smell like a homeless guy living in a dumpster back then he was not a guy girls as cute as they were would want to willingly be around.
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We don’t have proof they were compensated with more than an “atta girl, you’ve done a good thing for a poor kid.”

I was asked to hang out with lonely special needs kids at church functions on several occasions when I was in jr high and high school because my parents knew the church lady who picked me for the task and I wasn’t known to mess around and make trouble. It would be me and maybe one of my friends sitting with the slow in da mind, helping them get potluck food if needed, etc. Maybe it’s different at schools, idk. But how attractive the person was was irrelevant.
 
Caesare said:
That's what I just said. You don't get any social security benefits while in jail. Just goes to show you how unreliable these idiot's information is. Dummies acting like you just get to rack up social security money while you're sitting in prison or jail. Idiots.

He can start collecting them again when he gets out, but he won't get back pay for that time he was sitting in jail or anything like that.
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From the Social Security website:
If you are receiving Social Security retirement, survivors, or disability benefits, we will stop your benefits if you are institutionalized for more than 30 continuous days after being convicted of a crime.


For example, if you are convicted in March and jailed for more than 30 days, you will not be eligible for your March benefit. Your payments will stop with your April payment.
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Payments only stop before conviction if you're on standard social security payments. Chris is on Disability, so he would have continued receiving payments, because he was never convicted. The language used here seems to imply that he'd also continue collecting money while at Western State.

We had a pointless sperg to explain all of this and we continue to ignore him. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a pointless sperg; be more appreciative and honor thy sperg.
 
themarchivist2 said:
Payments only stop before conviction if you're on standard social security payments. Chris is on Disability, so he would have continued receiving payments, because he was never convicted.
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You don't have to be convicted. They stop it while you are incarcerated regardless. It could be for a probation violation, it could just be you were arrested and held for a month and a half, either way, you will lose it. I see what it says there, and the language implies what you're saying, but I'm telling you for a fact that you will lose after 30 days, just like they say, whether you were convicted of a crime or not.

How long has he been in there as of now? Has it been a year? Because something else it says regarding social security:

"If you’re receiving SSI, we’ll suspend
your payments while you’re in prison.
Your payments can start again in the
month you’re released. However, if your
confinement lasts for 12 consecutive
months or longer, we’ll terminate your
eligibility for SSI payments and you must
file a new application after your release."

If it has been, he will have to reapply. I mean, that's no big deal to do, I'm just curious.



"Social Security Disability Insurance
(SSDI) and Supplemental Security
Income (SSI) payments generally are
not payable for months that you’re
imprisoned for committing a crime. This
includes when you’re confined to a jail,
prison, or certain other public institutions.
You’re not automatically eligible for
Social Security or SSI payments after
your release."

I know it has that caveat in there about "being convicted of a crime" but it's just written that way under the assumption that if you're held that long, you've probably been convicted of some type of crime. The important part is that you will lose them after being incarcerated for 30 days. Nobody is getting social security benefits from jail after that long.

You will lose your SSI payments for a probation violation because those typically last 90 days. You weren't convicted of any extra crime, as you are allowed to receive benefits while on probation/parole, but as soon as you spend 30 days or more in jail for that violation, you won't keep getting payments for that time. Once you get out, you call them and your payments can resume.
 
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themarchivist2 said:
We had a pointless sperg to explain all of this and we continue to ignore him. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a pointless sperg; be more appreciative and honor thy sperg.
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maybe THAT is the real reason he flew the coop. He was tired of no one listening to him and the kerfalls kerfuffle was just the right excues to bail out on the whole thing.
themarchivist2 said:
Payments only stop before conviction if you're on standard social security payments. Chris is on Disability,
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It will never cease to piss me off that the SSI program is intended to suppliment. An income that someone like chris would make in a lifetime. It's meant to pay the lions share on something like rent, or food in addition to the wage a slow in the mind incapable of landing a job better than Wendy's makes. Chris was the first (or at least the first notible) lolcow NEET who figured, "hey I live with my parents and don't pay rent anyways so why should i bother getting a job at all."
 
themarchivist2 said:
He is planning to use this money to permanently hire Heilberg, and sue a couple people.
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I too would want to keep my lawyer on retainer after spending almost 2 years in jail without a trial. There's no way Heilberg would take Chris as a client after all the bullshit he had to put up with, even if he took Legos and charred PS3 games as payment.
 
MorbidlyObeseFeline said:
I am trying to wrap my head around what he looks like now. I did a quick sketch. It’s really rough, it was about midnight when I saw this news.
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This is a challenge as an artist. Chris Chan has very distinct features, especially in the lower half of his face. The weight loss from Western State diminished some of those features. But there is only one low quality image showing that. And to top that off the beard is covering some of those features. So it’s difficult to depict the Chris Chan we all know looking like this. He’s looking like you combined every character in Metalocalypse. Or like an autistic angry Jesus.
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Uncontrollable rage fueled revenge, drifter Chris, is my favorite Chris.

I think just the idea that Chris thinks he can buy Heilberg into his "permanent" legal servitude does make it sound like Heilberg isn't speaking to Chris a whole lot. I know he mentioned he was being kept in the dark and Heilberg rarely talked to him, so imagine if he came up with something like this, and ran it past Heilberg, he would have put that to a stop. Plus that sounds like a typical hairbrained revenge scheme that he'd come up with. Chris really is hitting that lower class hard, now he's looking at dumb lawsuits to shake people down for money.
Little Pigboy said:
Who the hell is he going to sue?
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I think it's as easy as Chris pretending he didn't do bad stuff, so when people talked about the alleged "bad stuff" Chris did, in Chris's mind, that libel and defamation. After all, he's convinced himself that no, he didn't pork Barb, so everyone saying he did is defaming his character. Not to mention the whole idea of suing people over shit like that is something he definitely picked up in jail somewhere. He just needed a tipping point to go over with his various petty frauds and scams we know he's done.
 
Glassshardballpit said:
You might steal my thunder but I'm still the lightning thief.

Yes, when you're from Glockenspiel Virginia and your highest prospect is being a manager at Big Lots or something to the equivalent, you're going to latch on any bit of fame that you can.
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Heh yeah, I know it was a retread of what you said but I just could't agree more, I'm annoyed that this is the person we have to get information on because he's annoying and there is so much misinformation I hardly know if we can take his word for it, one thing I find very skeptical is I doubt chris has grown a beard, It just doesn't seem feasible since he's never been able to grow more than a meagre five' a clock shadow and I doubt with his baby face he could pull it off. Doesn't seem like him at all.
Ophelia said:
If that even happened.
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Let's be real it probably did, Chris even before a troll called Thetan made up a fake Facebook message claiming that they didn’t care for Chris and hung out with him out of pity Chris recalls an entry one day where he hung out with Tiffany Gowen and they walked with him home from school and he saw Bob in the late 90s afterwards Hans her and some other fiends some cash. He sat there in his bedroom concerned by what he just saw and become wistful wondering whether any of his friendships were meaningful. Considering how he is now that pretty much seals it.
 
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