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They're not shopped out. He's wearing white sleeves, and the lighting and contrast makes them hard to see..
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They're not shopped out. He's wearing white sleeves, and the lighting and contrast makes them hard to see..
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Chris understands things the way he wants to as a way of justifying his actions. Not really 'autistic' but more sociopathic and narcissistic.
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They're not shopped.
Chris was sent to the hospital for cutting off both his arms. He thought he could fit through the bars without them.
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The delousing process made his arms turn blue so he removed them.
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I know the jail will hand Chris His new meds every day. But will a corrections officer or someone make sure Chris actually takes them? What's to stop Chris from just throwing the pills out short of strapping Him down and forcing him to take them?
I can picture Chris having a major tard out so they would have to do that to keep Him in line.
I can picture Chris having a major tard out so they would have to do that to keep Him in line.
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This is the silver lining. It’s fucking frustrating to think about wasting money on Chris’ delusion. But the win is that he’s basically castrating himself with estrogen.
Congratulations, Chris! You took a full time larp and used it to shrivel your dick like an overcooked hot dog.
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At first I thought the pic didn't have chris' arms in it, that the pic was just a diamond shape with baggy-eyed chris in it, but you look closer it looks like Chris is wearing white sleeves under his striped prison shirt
Any reason for this? It's heading towards summer there afaik so it doesn't seem practical
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Any reason for this? It's heading towards summer there afaik so it doesn't seem practical
Sorry if it was noticed before, rate me late. Thread just started this week it's already up to page 28. Too much to read here when you lurk + busy life
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Buildings like jails are usually pretty cold. Cement floors and walls, big, wide open floorplan, very thin blankets.
Also, Charlottesville is only getting highs of 70 still, and 50s at night.
The period of time is just about long enough to be titrated / stabilised on a medication regime.
The initial transfer may have been triggered by a crisis (complete psychosis / detachment from reality; suicidal thoughts / plans, attempt seems less likely). Addressing this may have been part of the purpose for hospitalisation, or at least the rationale for the move (secure psychiatric beds are expensive and in short supply).
I very much doubt substantive group work or therapy played any part in his time in hospital. Perhaps some one-to-one work, particularly with regards to any immediate crisis, but you can't get very far in counselling someone who is completely psychotic / delusional.
Far more effective (and far more within the remit of secure hospitals) to look at current medication regimes (probably prescribed by a series of doctors over a number of unrelated appointments, leading to inappropriate combinations / patterns of medication that haven't really been thought through); potentially detox; definitely introduce a new / coherent regime; titrate dosage; stabilise; check that the intended results have been secured; return to main jail.
That this is in the US leads me to think it is even less likely that there was any therapeutic work (e.g., Canada, perhaps more likely that there would be some therapeutic work, but it is genuinely hard to imagine what this could possibly be within 2 months and with someone who has a very limited engagement with reality).
Edit: it might be possible to hide medication in main jail; you won't get away with that in a secure psychiatric hospital. If you are hiding it in main jail, there are real questions about where you get rid of it. The obvious thing is to sell it, which is the main reason prisoners divert medication (any kind! Even meds with no apparent recreational value will have a sale value). I cannot imagine for a second that Chris could negotiate prison drug markets. Standard procedure in a prison med queue might involve drinking a specified quantity of water when taking x tablet, then sitting on a chair with your hands under your bum for five minutes afterwards. Particularly if those meds have recreational value, but similar processes are general safety measures. If there's any suspicion that you are not taking your meds, in an institution with any level of supervision / staff capacity, then you are very likely to be monitored - potentially up to and including toilet contents (unlikely unless proper concerns about proper hardcore drugs, but not impossible). Dumping medication is also not straightforward. If you can't negotiate prison drug markets, it's not easy to consistently lose e.g. two varieties of antipsychotic, an antidepressant pill and an oestrogen pill without significant skills at hiding shit.
The other prison workaround is to give meds as liquids. (And to still insist on 'you will consume this' measures, like the sitting on a chair for five minutes with your hands beneath etc). It is obviously much harder to secrete liquids for five minutes than it is to secrete half a pill. (Only real way to get rid of meds then is to upchuck, not impossible, but very hard to consistently do without someone noticing. Second hand thrown-up methadone, for example, has real value in some prisons).
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I am sure they would make him take them.
Presumably meds would be considered contraband or valuable to the right buyer, even in jail.
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A nurse goes around witha cart giving hundreds of people pills multiple times a day. They dont even care to check your mouth half the time. Noone cares about anything except officer safety inside those walls. And even then sometimes they dont even care about the officers. Its VERY common to “cheek” the pill (stuff it up by your molars) and open your mouth to show the nurse that you “swallowed” it. People are so desperate for any semblance of a fix in there, i was selling my Epilepsy medicine when i was in Va County Jail. I just said “ya it makes me kinda tired” which is a lie, and i had like 5 people wanting to buy it from me everyday. Another big drug people like was the anti-smoking pill (Chantix? I forget). They crush it up and smoke it and said it was like a jailhouse hit of crack i guess.
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The other point about prisons and pharmaceuticals is that prisons want to control them (and their consumption) to stop prisoner hierarchies (and prison wars) becoming even more prevalent. Drugs, and control of drugs, = power. Remove the prescribed drugs from the marketplace and you're taking one step towards a slightly more orderly regime.
Drugs that have not been taken (that have been diverted) are tremendously valuable; again, the risk that Chris would be taking if he was diverting and smuggling his medication would be huge. I've heard of prisoners being held down and 'explored robustly and internally' with a spoon (not once, multiple times in multiple institutions) because they were believed to have drugs or diverted medication. There is just no way that Chris, in my view, could successfully manage medication diversion - or the consequences of it.
(Assuming he has any contact at all with general population - which, in fairness, he may not - it would be even worse for him if prisoners suspected he was diverting meds, than if staff suspected.)
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Drugs that have not been taken (that have been diverted) are tremendously valuable; again, the risk that Chris would be taking if he was diverting and smuggling his medication would be huge. I've heard of prisoners being held down and 'explored robustly and internally' with a spoon (not once, multiple times in multiple institutions) because they were believed to have drugs or diverted medication. There is just no way that Chris, in my view, could successfully manage medication diversion - or the consequences of it.
(Assuming he has any contact at all with general population - which, in fairness, he may not - it would be even worse for him if prisoners suspected he was diverting meds, than if staff suspected.)
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OK, that's less controlled than I would have expected. The limits of knowledge from a distance!
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He looks noticeably thinner, and more depressed than usual, looks like that hospital really did a number on him. I wonder what prison will make him look like, his defeated sunken gaze just says it all, I think reality has finally hit him and he knows he's truly fucked this time. I don't even wanna imagine how beaten down and miserable he'll look when he's one day released.
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He looks wrecked, like a lack of sleep for days on end, with a cocktail of drugs.
Perhaps he may even realise how utterly screwed he is now.
Now we wait for the court to pull him in.
Perhaps he may even realise how utterly screwed he is now.
Now we wait for the court to pull him in.
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Remind me to submit that article to the hilarious Journal of Transformative Works. “Chris Chan as Early Fandom Influencer: A Review”
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Or simply to get him ready to assist in his defense.
What about someone who is playing make-believe games but does know it’s not real?
That doesn’t describe Chris. Not even a Chris who is deeply coping.
We know he’s been in protected custody.
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stupid question, but has the jail been keeping chris' money for him while he's been in the hospital? consensus is that he couldn't buy anything at the hospital, so does that mean ween money has continued to fill his coffers?
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Idk about Orange County but Chesterfield County Jail (supposedly a cake walk compared to most detention centers in VA) was freezing fucking cold and no one gives two shits if you have something to say. They dont give you long sleeves, and the blanket is just a 3x3 piece bedsheet, no pillow, just a cement slab. They didnt even give me a .5” thick mat until like the 3rd day. We had bologna sandwiches for 9 days in a row for Lunch+Dinner one time. Breakfast would be one pancake and one tiny scoop of frozen cold grits. Lunch+Dinner would be one piece of bologna with 2 pieces of stale bread and whatever rejected fruits they got from the state farm. As you can imagine the fruit is rotten, too ripe, has insects in it, etc. Chris has every reason in the world to be miserable. They dont allow anime or dimensional merges either. The withdrawals must be terrible.
You can bet your sweet ass theres about 12 people actively trying or successfully stealing most of Chris’ food/supplies daily. Chris is now their roommate and their problem. They dont put up with bullshit like not showering, getting the cellblock in trouble, not flushing while shitting, etc. Hes going to have a VERY bad time if its open cell block and not locked down 23/1.
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Christ, sounds like a barrel of laughs.
I've had some rough sleeps, but yeesh that's terrible. One would think a mental health care facility would be clean, warm, careful, all that kinda stuff.
Apparently not. Sounds more like a facility from a horror movie.
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