May 3, 2022 - Chris returned to CVRJ

I wonder if Chris is still in isolation, or is he in genpop.
Not sure if they're likely to put him back into isolation or throw him to GP. Really it's tough to say, it depends on his behavior I'd imagine. GP however would be a death sentence for chris, he would get all of his food/pills/commissary scammed 100%. In fact I don't doubt he'd give his inmate pin number up and someone would clean out his commissary account every time it's topped off. It happens to people who are far smarter than chris every day.
 
I agree with others saying that this is probably the closest to "sanity" Chris has had in a very long time- but due to the fact that he was specifically sent to a forensic psychiatric ward and not a regular mental health ward that would have been infinitely more comfortable for him- my guess is that the shrinks didn't put too much time and energy into coming up with a "game-plan" in regards to Chris's medication and are just pumping him full of Thorazine.

I do believe that Chris has enough sanity restored to now finally grasp the gravity of his current situation- but I also think that the Thorazine is putting him in a "zombie adventure quest", as @Bryan Dunn so eloquently put it.
 
I agree with others saying that this is probably the closest to "sanity" Chris has had in a very long time- but due to the fact that he was specifically sent to a forensic psychiatric ward and not a regular mental health ward that would have been infinitely more comfortable for him- my guess is that the shrinks didn't put too much time and energy into coming up with a "game-plan" in regards to Chris's medication and are just pumping him full of Thorazine.
I do not ususally follow Chris so I am unsure how long he was commited in mental health BUT forensic wards and "regular" wards are much the same in how they deal with patients. Ususally they turn over a patient in 1 to 2 weeks in a regular ward. I beleive he was in the forensic ward longer then that so there is a good chance that they were able to set up game plan. Psychology these days is get them out fast not the old psychology of sitting and talking.
 
This is true. When covid started, psych took over two of our ER bays to do the ECT treatments (because the OR was shut down for “elective” procedures). Sometimes they’d leave the curtain open and you could see what was going on in the bay. I know that ECT does have its caveats, and has improved dramatically since it’s inception, but damn did it still look brutal to go through.
It really is a last ditch procedure these days, though, and is far from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. The nastiest side effect is probably the straight up nuclear bomb it drops on your memory, for the period around the treatment and, potentially much worse, just raping your memory in general so big chunks of your life just disappear.

This might be okay if you could pick them, I suppose, but it's pretty random. I know people on the depression spectrum who have decided they'd really rather just kill themselves than do ECT even in its current form.
 
They especially don't like to move dates up, rather than delaying and rescheduling for later. If it was for competence issues, the statute clearly states that the review period should be 6 months, so it may not even be changeable.
I believe judges in general just want to look the parties, or someone in control of the case, in the eye every now and again and ask what the fuck is going on, if anything. If even the parties to the case aren't interested enough to show up with something to say, the judge isn't going to be very interested either.
Who is worse? Chris, Hitler or Sadam?
What Hitler did in Iraq is potatoes compared to what Chris did. Chris showed up, personally killed Soddamn Insane and saved the world.
He may have realized that he couldn't play pretend forever; and while he might not understand or believe what he did was wrong, he now knows this is not going to end the way he wants it to. The adults have put an end to his huge game of pretend, and he realizes it.
He could conceivably have been found permanently incompetent and that intensive treatment to make him salvageable for trial would be a waste of time. I'm doubting that and it is speculation, but I suspect he's been cleared.

This is basically feels as you point out, other than that I think it would have been more likely, if he were still incompetent, that they'd just keep him long-term, because that's really fucking insane. If he really is that out of it, it's likely a final disposition will involve some form of civil commitment or placement in a facility for the middle to long term.

Such placements are in scarce supply, though, and just believing in magic hedgehogs won't get you one.
He may have realized that he couldn't play pretend forever; and while he might not understand or believe what he did was wrong, he now knows this is not going to end the way he wants it to. The adults have put an end to his huge game of pretend, and he realizes it.
He could conceivably have been found permanently incompetent and that intensive treatment to make him salvageable for trial would be a waste of time. I'm doubting that and it is speculation, but I suspect he's been cleared.
They didnt even give me a .5” thick mat until like the 3rd day. We had bologna sandwiches for 9 days in a row for Lunch+Dinner one time. Breakfast would be one pancake and one tiny scoop of frozen cold grits. Lunch+Dinner would be one piece of bologna with 2 pieces of stale bread and whatever rejected fruits they got from the state farm.
I actually suspect that as shitty as CVRJ is, that hospital was even worse. He went into jail with his smile and optimism, but he came out of that hospital looking like a ghost. The way you describe it, frozen cold grits was pretty much ambrosia compared to everything else.
 
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He's definitely loss weight. I'd say he's loss around 20lbs, maybe even as much as 40lbs. I'd say he's about 200-192lbs now. I know that seems light, but Chris was always "light fat" since he had no muscles. At his fattest he claimed he was 220lbs and used a blurry scale to prove it.
Hopefully his head's less fucked now, but seeing as he still has long hair, probably not. And he's only been "gone" just over 2 months, and up until his departure he was still spouting bullshit in his correspondences.
I mean, just because he still has his long hair doesn't necessarily mean he's still delusional. He's probably just lazy and doesn't want it cut, I mean, he never even brushed it before.
 
This sent me to "all sonic says" and literally the first one is "don't call 911 if you're surrounded by 3 people trying to murder you." The 90s were a different time.
Well, that's because kids back then were ninjas. If a measly three people were able to kill you, you deserved to die.
One would think a mental health care facility would be clean, warm, careful, all that kinda stuff.
You're not considered a person in places like that - you're considered something broken that needs to be repaired.
 
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The docs at the mental health facility probably saw the same thing most of us see. That deep down, he’s quite aware of the things he does and he’s meticulous and secretive because he knows the difference between right and wrong. Layered under all that troon brony merge talk, there’s a more sane individual than you’d give him credit on the surface.
 
I've had some rough sleeps, but yeesh that's terrible. One would think a mental health care facility would be clean, warm, careful, all that kinda stuff.

Apparently not. Sounds more like a facility from a horror movie.
Welcome to state-run medical care. If you have a really nice Cadillac healthcare package that covers mental health, they can be really nice, soothing places filled with other people who probably have nice jobs if they have such healthcare plans.

If you are a poor motherfucker, as Chris literally is, and you're in a state-run loony bin to get you just sane enough to stand trial, you are going to be in a snake pit. I think even just the new mug shot shows he's seen some shit. And maybe he's just sane enough now to realize how fucked he is.
I do not ususally follow Chris so I am unsure how long he was commited in mental health BUT forensic wards and "regular" wards are much the same in how they deal with patients. Ususally they turn over a patient in 1 to 2 weeks in a regular ward. I beleive he was in the forensic ward longer then that so there is a good chance that they were able to set up game plan. Psychology these days is get them out fast not the old psychology of sitting and talking.
They have both a treating and a consultative role, in that they must produce a report of their evaluation of his mental state as it relates to his competency to stand trial, whatever treatment they provided, what the result of that was, what the long-term prognosis as to competency was, and their recommendation on the subject, although as with any other experts, the court can assign that report weight based on its evaluation of the experts' testimony.

In practice, especially when uncontested, courts tend to give a treating physician much greater deference than, say, some court-appointed guy who read a bunch of reports by other doctors and gave an opinion based on that. So I think whatever they say is likely to be adopted by the court, and I really do think if he's back in jail, he's headed for trial or (much more likely) some final plea deal ending this.

Maybe they salve his ego by giving him some nolo or Alford plea bullshit but I'm nearly certain he ends up convicted of something, quite possibly just the misdemeanor version of the incest wobbler he's currently charged with.
 
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Guys, it's a lot simpler:

Sonic sez:
Don't smoke! Don't drink!


That's easy, I'm already not doing that.

Sonic sez:
Eat you veggies! Play sports! Be mindful of others!


Ugh no, that would take effort.

I know it's engaging to pretend Chris's mind is some kind of maze waiting to be solved by the combined prowess of the kiwi genius... but in reality the explanation is he's a simpleton always taking the path of least resistance.
 
What's really crazy is the final Kacey call where she says he won't make it to 30. Oh if only she had been right...

my oldest childhood friend had heart disease inherited from his dad and he refused to take anything for his constant anxiety and panic attacks. he was autistic AF and OCD; constant anxiety feedback loop. his diet was slightly better than chris'.

my friend had his 1st heart attack when we were ~29.

it always made think that if chris' "stress sighs" were real stress and not "i want sympathy" cues, chris would have died by now.
 
Wherever they sent him looks like boned him in the ass more than he could get in jail.
 
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