MCU Television and Animation Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc

You know, for all the stupid ass talk of "they'd never let a black man be Captain America" from the old bitter black guy who got the super soldier serum, (And I waited until the end to say this just to be sure I actually bought Sam Wilson as Cap, and yeah I kind of do, or at least I did before he opened his mouth, and I'll get to that in a second...) I had a much bigger issue with FatWS randomly giving Captain America's powers to some ugly retarded cockney bitch. At least the old bitter black guy had some legitimate reasons for being pissed off. Karli really didn't. Her ideology was embarrassingly stupid and she came off like a petulant teenager who insists that they know how the world works despite not knowing shit. I actually laughed when she died. The way Sam carried her back down to earth with literal wings out like she was some sort of martyr being carried by an angel was fucking hilarious.
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And yes Sam, she was a fucking terrorist. The literal google definition:

ter·ror·ist

/ˈterərəst/
noun
  1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
That is... literally exactly what she did throughout the entirety of this series. Just because you felt inappropriate sympathy for her does not make her retroactively a good person. Then again, I guess that fits in with the world we live in right now.


And I'll just come out and say it, yes "we" (because this whole thing was a shitty "let all illegal immigrants into the US in *our* world" allegory, and it failed hard.) should deport all of the post-blip illegal immigrants. Fuck 'em.

Also I got pissed off when Sam gave his "I don't have blonde hair and blue eyes, but I'm still Captain America and people hate me for that," speech. Go fuck yourself show. I am probably pretty close to the person who you *think* you were meta talking about there, except I was perfectly fine with this version of Sam taking up the mantle of Cap even right up until he spouted off that race-baiting bullshit. Really, the only reason why I'm doubting myself now is because of all of the race-baiting bullshit.


On a totally different note, I fucking love how "One world, one people," basically became the anti "Hail Hydra" at the end. I barely even remembered that you were a part of the MCU before this show started Zemo, but rock on you magnificent bastard, you somehow managed to become one of my favorite characters by the end of it.

How fucked up is it that the two best characters on this show were the ones set up to be, and treated like they were, more evil than the actual villain... despite them both being more or less opposed to the *actual* villains of the show? I'm of course talking about Zemo and Walker.

And Jesus, speaking about Walker, what a crock of shit. The show treated him like he was a villain from the very beginning for no reason at all at first. The first episode ended with him being announced as the new Captain America and Sam was literally crying about it despite not even knowing the dude. Ok, I can sort of understand why Sam was upset that he gave the shield to museum, only for it to be given to another dude... But Walker could actually use it, and at the time Sam couldn't. I think he was just jealous.

The next few episodes had Sam and Bucky treating Walker like shit for no discernable reason. He doesn't even really do anything wrong until Episode 4 (Out of 6), and yeah he acted pretty fucking dumb there, but by that point, why would he extend trust to some extralegal assholes who gave him no friendship when he had already offered it to them multiple times and been spurned?

Yeah in retrospect, he had some major ptsd.... but Sam and Bucky had no way of knowing that until he smashed that rando super soldier's head in with a shield. Honestly though, that scene would have meant more if Sam and Bucky had been at least a bit respectful to him up until that point. As it is, I'm more inclined to believe that they were part of what fucked his already PTSD riddled mind up even more.

I'm only going here because I've seen more than one so-called news outlet imply that John Walker was "Alt Right, white supremacist, nazi, etc."
Let me remind you, these retarded assholes are talking about an American hero, who was and still is married to a black woman, and whose breaking point in this show was literally a bunch of Commie villains (whose worldview I would bet most of them actually agree with) killing his black best friend. He almost literally says 'black lives matter' in the finale. Just replace 'black lives' with the name of that friend.
 
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Basically everyone I know IRL has been mentioning “Hey, it’s cool that Sam took the mantle and all, sure… just give us more of Zemo, Walker, and Contessa.”

If Marvel had any sense, which they probably don’t these days, they’d have announced Thunderbolts already, because it’s clear that people want more of those three as soon as possible. Certainly more than whatever the fuck Echo is, which got a spinoff series order before anyone even saw her (MCU) character.
 
Basically everyone I know IRL has been mentioning “Hey, it’s cool that Sam took the mantle and all, sure… just give us more of Zemo, Walker, and Contessa.”
As somebody who pretty much literally just said all of that shit... (Again, I really did end up liking both Zemo and Walker the best. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as the Contessa was fine I guess? She mostly just made me think about those rumors flying around about Jason Alexander being the new MCU Professor X, and damn I hope they're true.) But I totally think that Disnarvel making those be the best characters of the show was accidental on their part....

If Marvel had any sense, which they probably don’t these days, they’d have announced Thunderbolts already, because it’s clear that people want more of those three as soon as possible. Certainly more than whatever the fuck Echo is, which got a spinoff series order before anyone even saw her (MCU) character.
Never gonna happen, especially now that those 'evil' characters ended up being popular. If anything they'll be minimized as much as possible. But none of them would have ever been Thunderbolts in the first place I don't think... I would legitimately love to see an on screen version of the Thunderbolts, but it's never going to work right in the MCU without seriously fucking them up.
 
As somebody who pretty much literally just said all of that shit... (Again, I really did end up liking both Zemo and Walker the best. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as the Contessa was fine I guess? She mostly just made me think about those rumors flying around about Jason Alexander being the new MCU Professor X, and damn I hope they're true.) But I totally think that Disnarvel making those be the best characters of the show was accidental on their part....


Never gonna happen, especially now that those 'evil' characters ended up being popular. If anything they'll be minimized as much as possible. But none of them would have ever been Thunderbolts in the first place I don't think... I would legitimately love to see an on screen version of the Thunderbolts, but it's never going to work right in the MCU without seriously fucking them up.
Thunderbolts is quite literally Zemo’s team, so him being totally unrelated in the MCU would be… bizarre, to say the least.

Still, I completely agree that Disney won’t want to do anything more out of their spite at the “wrong” characters being popular. They’ve already announced CA4 with Sam, for example.
 
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I finished FATWS the other day and the last minutes of the last episode made me facepalm. If they wanted me to empathize with Karli and consider her a misguided martyr for justice they failed HARD. I mean, I wanted to see her dead since episode 4.

And Sam's speech to the senator sounded so shallow. "Politicians have godly powers": uhm, no. It doesn't work like that. "You can feed 1 million people with a phone call": no. It doesn't work like that. The senator: "It's complicated", and it is, we were shown the aftermath of return of the people who were cancelled by the Blink. Sam: "No, it's simple". It's the kind of exchange that a teen would find deep and meaningful, a mature adult with a modicum of common sense would just laugh at it.

At the end, the characters I liked more were Zemo, Walker and Sharon (curious to see where her penchant for dirty business will take her).
 
I finished FATWS the other day and the last minutes of the last episode made me facepalm. If they wanted me to empathize with Karli and consider her a misguided martyr for justice they failed HARD. I mean, I wanted to see her dead since episode 4.

And Sam's speech to the senator sounded so shallow. "Politicians have godly powers": uhm, no. It doesn't work like that. "You can feed 1 million people with a phone call": no. It doesn't work like that. The senator: "It's complicated", and it is, we were shown the aftermath of return of the people who were cancelled by the Blink. Sam: "No, it's simple". It's the kind of exchange that a teen would find deep and meaningful, a mature adult with a modicum of common sense would just laugh at it.

At the end, the characters I liked more were Zemo, Walker and Sharon (curious to see where her penchant for dirty business will take her).
“It’s simple” is quite simply how these Hollywood writers presume the world works.

Money, ethics, logistics, none of that matters as long as it’s the right thing. The only reason that we aren’t doing the right thing is because the opposition is full of genuine racists/sexists/whatever that want nothing except to impede progress. The country should be an endless waterfall of money on the right things until they aren’t a problem anymore, and only then can we- wait no there’s a whole new wave of injustices to throw money at, etc etc etc.

Back on topic… sort of, that Spectacular series really was the (then) worst casualty of the merge, that show was great.
 
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1. Costume looks far too perfect and lacks any sense of it being homemade. Looks boring.
2. Actress doesn't seem to emanate much charisma and looks kinda silly.
3. Why should we care?

Good thing after Loki inevitably disappoints (Not saying 100% but...just let's be real) I ain't gonna be watching it! I look forward to the videos talking about it though.
Sort of agree with the first point, but I think it's too soon to call on the second. She seemed genuine enough in what they've shown so far. Of course this doesn't mean anything if the show itself isn't written well so we'll see.
 
Was it talked about as much as Wanda? Because Wanda gave us a lot of commentary and memes. This one, not much.

I don't mean this doesn't mean it was successful in views, but interaction with people is also important and I feel this one wasn't.
 
Was it talked about as much as Wanda? Because Wanda gave us a lot of commentary and memes. This one, not much.

I don't mean this doesn't mean it was successful in views, but interaction with people is also important and I feel this one wasn't.
Some, but being less of a comedy gave them less to work with. Like Loki will likely generate more of that shit than both of them combined just by the nature of the kind of show it's gonna be.
 
Was it talked about as much as Wanda? Because Wanda gave us a lot of commentary and memes. This one, not much.

I don't mean this doesn't mean it was successful in views, but interaction with people is also important and I feel this one wasn't.
The Falcon and The Winter Soldier didn’t get talked about as much because it was more standard Marvel fare, but Disney must have been happy with the viewing figures as a Captain America 4 starring Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson/Captain America was announced the same day as the series finale.
 
I found out Loki has moved it's premiere date from June 11th to June 9th.
 
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It's a shame that. 1. Just because people stopped watching for a moment doesn't mean they didn't go back to finish the rest a moment later (this is assuming the information wasn't bullshit but whatever). 2. They don't give exact viewing numbers, which is interesting because all the other shit on that list doesn't seem to be the kind of thing people would be super excited to watch in large enough numbers. For all we know "This is a Robbery" had 2million viewers. 3. It having a lot of mindless consum---I mean viewers doesn't mean it was good.

Regarding 1: Joe gets to the scene where Falcon and Bucky are stopped by the cops, he pauses, groans for a moment, then decides to continue watching a few moments later. The TOTS thing tells Disney when viewers stopped watching, but that doesn't mean they didn't press play a few moments later.

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier didn’t get talked about as much because it was more standard Marvel fare, but Disney must have been happy with the viewing figures as a Captain America 4 starring Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson/Captain America was announced the same day as the series finale.

They were likely going to do that anyway regardless of how many viewers it got. They don't particularly care about things like that anymore, since they are more interested in pushing ideology than making good movies.

Lol.
 
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