No Time to Die 007 - Time to Go Broke

RumblyTumbly said:
If they did raceswap Bond, younger Elba would have been my choice, but I think he's too old now.
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Yeah, Elba is 49. So he'd be comfortably in his 50's by the time a new Bond movie comes out. He still looks good for his age, but idk what the point would be of remaking Never Say Never Again with a middle aged black guy instead of a middle aged white guy (and it's dumb to raceswap established characters anyway).

Tom Hardy is no longer a young man either. The ideal age for a Bond actor is early 30's - old enough to pull off suave and sophisticated, but still young enough to believably win fist fights on the top of a moving train. The male audience likes the fantasy of being Bond, or at least being like him somehow - the cool one-liners, the cars, the clothes, the gadgets, the exciting violence, and the sexing beautiful women in exotic locales.

Not many men fantasize about being 50.
 
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Dr. Pasquale said:
I thought Elba was offered the role but had refused because he didnt want to be remembered as another "James Bond guy"
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I don’t think he was ever offered the role. He might have said that in an interview where he was asked if he would take the role if he was asked. I don’t think the producers have seriously courted another actor since casting Craig, preferring to offer him more and more money than fretting over who will replace him.
 
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RumblyTumbly said:
Aside from all the woke shit, does anyone else think that Craig has been playing Bond for too long at this point?

Even if we weren't living in this age of woke garbage, I'd be thinking "Can somebody else take the baton now? I'm kind of done".
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I think he was Bond for too long by Casino Royale. He's the worst Bond, bar none.

JohnDoe said:
If they for real race swap Bond by casting Elba or Patel the franchise will be dead and dusted.
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To be fair, Moore was in his 50s as Bond, and though he is far from the best, he still pulled it off.

And obviously, Idris is in much better shape than Moore ever was.

Edit: Sorry, autism struck hard and I quoted the wrong post.
 
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Uncle June said:
I think he was Bond for too long by Casino Royale. He's the worst Bond, bar none.
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Yeah he sucks. Negative charisma, he has the screen presence of a mannequin.

Uncle June said:
To be fair, Moore was in his 50s as Bond, and though he is far from the best, he still pulled it off.

And obviously, Idris is in much better shape than Moore ever was.
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Geriatric Leatherface Roger Moore Bond was a low point for the franchise tho. They should've recast the part after Moonraker.

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Sexual Chocolate said:
Yeah, Elba is 49. So he'd be comfortably in his 50's by the time a new Bond movie comes out. He still looks good for his age, but idk what the point would be of remaking Never Say Never Again with a middle aged black guy instead of a middle aged white guy (and it's dumb to raceswap established characters anyway).

Tom Hardy is no longer a young man either. The ideal age for a Bond actor is early 30's - old enough to pull off suave and sophisticated, but still young enough to believably win fist fights on the top of a moving train. The male audience likes the fantasy of being Bond, or at least being like him somehow - the cool one-liners, the cars, the clothes, the gadgets, the exciting violence, and the sexing beautiful women in exotic locales.

Not many men fantasize about being 50.
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No, the ideal Bond is a man perpetually 40. Same with Indiana Jones.

Atleast that is what Fleming intended for the character.

Old enough where he is a man of experience. But, young enough where he can still do physical activity.
 
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the last good bond movie was the rock and sean connery was old as fuck in that one. this shit is just beating a dead horse
 
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HarryHowler said:
My only hope for this movie is that Lashana Lynch's character is going to be a Teri Hatcher-type secondary Bond Girl who just appears in a few scenes near the end of the first act, then gets unceremoniously killed off. The resulting levels of salt would be beautiful to behold.
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I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that was the plan all along. They made such a big thing of it in the initial publicity. They were really pushing it as “OMG LASHANA LYNCH IS TOTALLY PLAYING 007 YOU COULD DEFINITELY INTERPRET THIS AS HER BEING THE NEW BOND AND GET OUTRAGED ABOUT IT ONLINE!!!!” Building the new character up as super-important and then killing her off is Hollywood Hype 101.
ProblematicUser420 said:
Apparently Daniel Craig has come out and said a woman shouldn't play James Bond, and they should just create as good of a character for women and minorities to play.
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Well yeah. I mean, ultimately, reboots and reimaginings are nothing more than a sign that Hollywood doesn’t have the balls to take risks on original IPs any more.
 
More than any other concern, I'm wholly disinterred in seeing Bond drive an electric car.
 
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