Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Oddjob OTP]

GBC did have Dragon Warrior Monsters which did make Pokemon look like a joke for all it matters. I only assume it went under the radar because Dragon Warrior/Quest were obscure in the west before they married Akira Toriyama and the monster designs were more aimed at existing DW fans and not kids wanting to make dogs fight giant beetles or palm trees.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Pokemon's only the massive juggernaut that it is because of the addictive pick and choose gameplay (most RPGs give you a predetermined set of characters every time), and, of course, the extremely aggressive merchandising and marketing. It can't be understated how things like the anime and TCG utterly carried the franchise to this day, because the glitchy buggy messes GF called games sure as hell weren't going to do it on their own. And even as time went on the mainline titles were always one step behind in terms of tech and basic prowess, and it's only now with the jump to HD that such a fact has become painfully clear.

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

I have seen the exact opposite, most people shat on charazard wank in the new game, KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO being a meme I think kinda shows people are sick and tired of gen 1 getting preferential treatment, I don't doubt that genwunners still exist, but it seems like to me that ever since x and y they have been decreasing in number rapidly.

being pandered too only works so long until it becomes annoying, no matter how obsessed someone is. at least I would hope so. lets go wasnt even as good a remake as fire red. you want gen one play that. there's good romhacks to eliminate the need for trading if you're emulating too. no reason to go back to ugly old red and blue or undercooked lets go when that exists. damn that shit was good. everybody at nintendo brought their A game to the gba for some reason. and that sweet chunky pixel art.

 

[Neet Tokusatsu]

I would extend that to the GBA since, keep in mind that most of the GBA's life cycle it was a port/remake machine, hell other then pokemon what other jrpgs did nintendo make themselves for the system (M&L and Mother 3?)

Gen 3 games are particularly kind jarring to me from a technical standpoint, Ruby & Sapphire don't look that much better compared to Pokemon Crystal, i'd say they look below-average for the system, got rid of the sprite animations (Emerald had them back, but they looks worse than in Crystal's), and the fact they came out like two years after Golden Sun didn't do them any favors

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

Gen 3 games are particularly kind jarring to me from a technical standpoint, Ruby & Sapphire don't look that much better compared to Pokemon Crystal, i'd say they look below-average for the system, got rid of the sprite animations (Emerald had them back, but they looks worse than in Crystal's), and the fact they came out like two years after Golden Sun didn't do them any favors

damn camelot knows how to make a battle animation. their old shining force only had 2-4 frame battle animations like pokemon but you actually remembered that shit.

and on a console a decade older at that. that said I still dig the gen 3 visual aesthetic. simple as it is.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

and on a console a decade older at that. that said I still dig the gen 3 visual aesthetic. simple as it is.

Pretty sure most pokemon fans do. Why do you think so many fan games stick to it (other than it being easier to make sprites for).

 

[OddEyes]

Pretty sure most pokemon fans do. Why do you think so many fan games stick to it (other than it being easier to make sprites for).

Because Pokemon essentials is based on that generation and it comes with all the sprites made for it.

... No, really, that's the reason.

 

[Billy_Sama]

Gen 3 games are particularly kind jarring to me from a technical standpoint, Ruby & Sapphire don't look that much better compared to Pokemon Crystal, i'd say they look below-average for the system, got rid of the sprite animations (Emerald had them back, but they looks worse than in Crystal's), and the fact they came out like two years after Golden Sun didn't do them any favors

The bigger griefing than pokemon Sword and Shield is the missing fourth game of Golden Sun.

 

[SnowBall]

Looking back at my posts and fandom observations I am starting to think fans severely over exaggerate the presence of genwunners. It has even become fashionable to bash Unova and Sinnoh lately because people are suddenly showing more appreciation for them. I notice GF shills who blindly praise SwSh love to target the fans of those three generations specifically and bash the games to be contrarians. It is now considered an unpopular opinion on Reddit to dislike Kanto, Sinnoh, and Unova. It has even gotten to the point where simply liking Kanto will have people brand you a genwunner.

Also considering how badly Camelot fucked up Dark Dawn I guess it is a good thing they didn’t make another Golden Sun. It probably would have ended on another cliffhanger like DD and leave every question unanswered.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

I bought the Dual Pack (because my store had it in stock since someone cancelled a preorder) and I picked it up. Played through both of them in full.

The games are fine, but they do wrap up much quicker then any other Pokemon game for better or worse. The trimming the fat of tutorials/story makes it a far better experience then USUM's opening, and I feel the story (which is very shallow) got it's point across. The gameplay is what you come for and in the end I had a lot of fun, but the differences in the gym versions is nothing more then two gym leaders to exclusive to each version and a palette swap of the same gym for each. So if pokemon are your sole reason then just know you're not missing too much.

I play pokemon mainly for the journey to the E4 and the endgame, trying out new teams and using pokes I would never do otherwise. So I got my fill, and when Home comes out i'll send them to the cloud and replay it again eventually.

 

[Jinmen]

#unpopularopinion:
I beat shield a day ago and quite like it. Game is pretty short and streamlined but I really love how they made pokemon battling more sportslike with you having to get a sponsor etc. Quality of life stuff is amazing too if you're mainly into breeding + battling.

Will you be able to attach items with the pokemon home app? I might pick up sword so I can farm fossils and tart apples easier without having to beg people.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

I don't hate it, I consider this gen to be middle tier, and generally better then the last two gens outside of AS/OR.

Spoiler: Just, like, my opinion man

D tier are all games I did not play, but nothing I have heard about them leads me to believe I wouldn't put them in D anyway. Also I didn't necessarily play every one of these, but I did play at least one of the matched set (e.g. I played Soul Silver but not Heart Gold)

 

[OddEyes]

I don't hate it, I consider this gen to be middle tier, and generally better then the last two gens outside of AS/OR.

Spoiler: Just, like, my opinion man

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D tier are all games I did not play, but nothing I have heard about them leads me to believe I wouldn't put them in D anyway. Also I didn't necessarily play every one of these, but I did play at least one of the matched set (e.g. I played Soul Silver but not Heart Gold)

You should really try Platinum, it's a lot better than the gen 4 games that came before it.

 

[Zaryiu]

The bigger griefing than pokemon Sword and Shield is the missing fourth game of Golden Sun.

I forgot Golden Sun 3 was a thing

Spoiler

wasn't that the one that has psynegy vortexes introduced at the start of the game and the heroes not doing anything to close those to the point a huge one shows up at the end, they really weren't as good at adventuring as the previous generation

 

[Ido]

I just got passed the last gym and still have not paid one bit of attention to any of the text. No idea what the story is other than something about tapestries. Idk, maybe it was looking at the spoilers before the game came out but with how tuned off for s/m/us/um I feel this is a natural progression away from the series for me. I never really played the game to read dialogue, when I replayed all the games when I was older I remember being surprised there was actually a "plot" and it wasn't just bullshit around like I'd been doing as a kid. I've completely reverted back to not paying a single bit of attention and stumbling around blind.

Although my Intellion and Dubwool are great, I got a Dragapult through surprise trade too, but the other new pokemon I'm not too keen on.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I just got passed the last gym and still have not paid one bit of attention to any of the text. No idea what the story is other than something about tapestries. Idk, maybe it was looking at the spoilers before the game came out but with how tuned off for s/m/us/um I feel this is a natural progression away from the series for me. I never really played the game to read dialogue, when I replayed all the games when I was older I remember being surprised there was actually a "plot" and it wasn't just bullshit around like I'd been doing as a kid. I've completely reverted back to not paying a single bit of attention and stumbling around blind.

Although my Intellion and Dubwool are great, I got a Dragapult through surprise trade too, but the other new pokemon I'm not too keen on.

There basically is no story until the ridiculously atrocious climax. Prepare for writing on par with Shadow the Hedgehog/Sonic Lost World/Sonic Forces.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

You should really try Platinum, it's a lot better than the gen 4 games that came before it.

It's not HG/SS level in the amount of content but it's very much worth it.

Look up the differences on Youtube for Diamond/Pearl but just only play Platinum. It'll make you appreciate it more like playing Emerald over R/S.

 

[OddEyes]

It's not HG/SS level in the amount of content but it's very much worth it.

Look up the differences on Youtube for Diamond/Pearl but just only play Platinum. It'll make you appreciate it more like playing Emerald over R/S.

The thing is, one of the bigger factors... Is that it has more fire types in it. Making it a much more optioned opened game.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

You know, I've seen a lot of talk about how grinding was basically eliminated for both the main story and for competitive building, but that's not even all that true. For the main story you don't typically need to, but if you do feel behind and want to catch up quickly by using the EXP Candies, well... You still technically have to "grind to avoid the grind" since you can only get those in meaningful quantities from doing raid dens (which even with animations turned off can still take forever). And even if you never do that for the story, you most definitely will if you build competitive teams, where you basically have to use the candies to save any amount of time due to Galar not having any useful grinding spots (almost like they killed Chansey specifically for this reason).

The Battle Tower also still locks all the important shit behind those goddamn battle points, and while they are cheaper than ever (Ability Capsules went from 200 BP in gen VI to just 50) GF of course had to add a catch. Once you get to the highest rank, you're perpetually stuck getting 2 points per match (unlike in the past where each rank increased the rewards up till you got 7 points each round), and there's no Super version of the battles either.

On top of this, you know how vitamins can be used to fully EV train a mon instantly? Well, that sounds great on paper until you realize how expensive it is. I did the math, and to fully EV train a team of 6 you need over 3 million Pokedollars. Yes, there's ways to grind money but wait, you're still grinding to avoid the grind. Notice the pattern here? Of course, you can always just use an exploit with the Poke Jobs thing and max out stats of multiple mons at once in 3 minutes flat thanks to the raid den resets. It's amazing how that one single oversight has completely shattered this game's timed events.

LATE EDIT: Also TRs, which are basically rebranded move tutors. This normally wouldn't be so bad except for the fact that they replaced the majority of the infinite TMs with useless garbage like Eerie Impulse, Scary Face and Screech. The only reason TRs aren't as big of a pain as they could be is, once again, thanks to the raid den exploit, since you can spam it to rack up watts and also reset the vendors to get whatever you want very quickly.

 

[CausticMinory]

If it's one thing I can say about SWSH it's at least GF didn't fuck themselves over loading a bunch of secret legendaries like they did with x y, SUMO, and USUM. Just old Pokemon leaks.