Probation Ends on July 10

[Blue Max]

So what's the score, exactly? Trying to recap this all:

-Chris is getting off probation (And frankly, this is an act of grace on Michael Snyder's part) which probably ends legal, low-level contact with the police.
-Chris has some sort of legal date in September, which could well be the endgame of all legal issues. On the downside, it might be him failing to meet his legal requirements, which would probably lead to another battle, another small version of "play the autism card". It would be interesting if this DID NOT end his problems with the law, but it seems likely that it will.
-Regarding Double Jeopardy: Michael Snyder has permanently conceded any further charges arising from 10/28/11; so he can't retaliate from further wrongdoing from Our Pet Lolcow by trying to revive those charges. I think actually getting back to the game place would probably involve Rob Bell calling some Cville Hobbies employee who doesn't know what's going on and then getting just enough confusion created that CWC could potentially return, buy stuff without incident, and leave. This is pushing it, but it sounds like Bell has been able to get CWC unbanned before.

Trying to return to Cville Hobbies is risky; particularly since OPL will not be well disguised. He's trespassing at law (and the above would basically be throwing that into confusion) and while he's managed to get in and out without getting arrested, I doubt Snyder's Patience will continue. If the Police catch him the store, he's busted with trespassing. If he's able to escape, he PROBABLY dodges immediate legal consequences. Given that CWC has the Autism card, trying to nail him might well be a fight Snyder does not really want to try.

So, heading back to the Game Place is clearly not a winning move, but it might not immediately lose for CWC.
-Barb is on probation for another year, so, if she's involved in anything she can very well face all kinds of crap thrown at her.

This is quite interesting. We should really keep on eye on that next court hearing.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Chris was in a holding cell for what a day and a half? He kicked at the bars, talked to himself, and starved himself to "make" a point. The only thing that made him do is get a hooker

He's a big, dumb animal. Even if he faces no further consequences for this, as soon as he puts himself out there in any real way, he's going to find himself in trouble again. I think Barb realizes that Chris has two options - stay in the house at all times or face inevitable jail time due to high-functioning shenanigans.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

If he's able to escape, he PROBABLY dodges immediate legal consequences. Given that CWC has the Autism card, trying to nail him might well be a fight Snyder does not really want to try.

Quite the opposite, I would say. Chris pretty much has two strikes against him now. More like two strikes and two outs in the bottom of the ninth. He doesn't realize this because he's stupid, but he is on very thin ice. He has skated so far, but that doesn't mean that he's completely free. It means that he has been given a final opportunity to behave without serious punishment. The next time he gets himself in trouble, the consequences for it, and for everything that has gone before, will catch up with him and he will be held accountable. The law has been patient with Chris, but its patience has run out.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

If he's able to escape, he PROBABLY dodges immediate legal consequences. Given that CWC has the Autism card, trying to nail him might well be a fight Snyder does not really want to try.

Quite the opposite, I would say. Chris pretty much has two strikes against him now. More like two strikes and two outs in the bottom of the ninth. He doesn't realize this because he's stupid, but he is on very thin ice. He has skated so far, but that doesn't mean that he's completely free. It means that he has been given a final opportunity to behave without serious punishment. The next time he gets himself in trouble, the consequences for it, and for everything that has gone before, will catch up with him and he will be held accountable. The law has been patient with Chris, but its patience has run out.

Personally, Chris has proven time and again that he's going to have problems with the law and the people who enforce it. What I'm trying to say here is that Chris is probably going to get arrested again, whether it's in three months or ten years. His lack of emotional control and overall maturity is going to get him intro trouble.

 

[Thetan]

I'm not doubting that Michael Snyder is a decent, honest person and a good businessman. I do, however, have to wonder if maybe he had other motivations which made him go so easy on Chris.

Think about it. As a business owner, he has to be concerned with his public image. If Rob Bell had managed to paint an unflattering picture of Michael in court, where it looked like he was playing Kick Da Autistic for real, it could have hurt his business. There are some disability activists groups who could be persuaded to get all up in arms over Chris' treatment at The Game Place. Some of these groups get themselves worked up into an indignant, self-righteous lather without having all of the facts first. (In other words, they have their own version of Al Sharpton.) I'm certain that Michael Snyder doesn't want that kind of negative publicity.

We don't know much about Bell, or what kind of tactics he'd resort to in defense of Chris. He's got a pretty good track record so far of keeping Chris out of any serious trouble. There's no doubt he's playing the Autism card.

Maybe I'm totally out in left field here. But I think it's something to at least take into consideration.

 

[Bob's Fries]

I'm not doubting that Michael Snyder is a decent, honest person and a good businessman. I do, however, have to wonder if maybe he had other motivations which made him go so easy on Chris.

Think about it. As a business owner, he has to be concerned with his public image. If Rob Bell had managed to paint an unflattering picture of Michael in court, where it looked like he was playing Kick Da Autistic for real, it could have hurt his business. There are some disability activists groups who could be persuaded to get all up in arms over Chris' treatment at The Game Place. Some of these groups get themselves worked up into an indignant, self-righteous lather without having all of the facts first. (In other words, they have their own version of Al Sharpton.) I'm certain that Michael Snyder doesn't want that kind of negative publicity.

We don't know much about Bell, or what kind of tactics he'd resort to in defense of Chris. He's got a pretty good track record so far of keeping Chris out of any serious trouble. There's no doubt he's playing the Autism card.

Maybe I'm totally out in left field here. But I think it's something to at least take into consideration.

To be fair, there's a chance that some of this must've crossed Snyder's mind. Sure. He might be a good guy, but in the end he's running a business. Not some charity. It is his livelihood. And probably the only thing he's got to support his family.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

I'm not doubting that Michael Snyder is a decent, honest person and a good businessman. I do, however, have to wonder if maybe he had other motivations which made him go so easy on Chris.

Think about it. As a business owner, he has to be concerned with his public image. If Rob Bell had managed to paint an unflattering picture of Michael in court, where it looked like he was playing Kick Da Autistic for real, it could have hurt his business. There are some disability activists groups who could be persuaded to get all up in arms over Chris' treatment at The Game Place. Some of these groups get themselves worked up into an indignant, self-righteous lather without having all of the facts first. (In other words, they have their own version of Al Sharpton.) I'm certain that Michael Snyder doesn't want that kind of negative publicity.

We don't know much about Bell, or what kind of tactics he'd resort to in defense of Chris. He's got a pretty good track record so far of keeping Chris out of any serious trouble. There's no doubt he's playing the Autism card.

Maybe I'm totally out in left field here. But I think it's something to at least take into consideration.

I doubt that Michael did it for any reason other than altruism. Even if a media outlet did try to say, "look at this case of a poor autistic man being denied his Pokeymans" it wouldn't take too long for the other shoe to drop and for "JULAY!" nudes to get mailed to the wrong people.

 

[waffle]

If Chris ever goes back to the game place and the cops get called he will almost surely have something happen to him, minimum zwould probably be supervised probation or hoouse arrest maximum would be like 30 days in county probably. Its possible but not likely that he will end up in some serious court mandated psych stuff if he keeps getting in trouble and playing the autism card.

 

[Marvin]

I don't know if Snyder was worrying too much about his public image. Like, the last owner of the game place was a convicted pedophile. (And on a related note, that was the only reason Chris thought Snyder might be a pedophile, because the last owner was one. Apparently pedophilia is infectious?)

And while it's possible someone could try to ruin Snyder's reputation, I think they'd really have to work their asses off to do that if Chris is their ammo. And I think Snyder knows that.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

I don't know if Snyder was worrying too much about his public image. Like, the last owner of the game place was a convicted pedophile. (And on a related note, that was the only reason Chris thought Snyder might be a pedophile, because the last owner was one. Apparently pedophilia is infectious?)

Well Chris seems to think homosexuality is contagious in some way and can be vaccinated, so fuck knows what goes on in his mind.

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Exactly. I came to the same conclusion that of Chris was having to collect trucker piss jugs out of highway ditches, he'd wail like a stuck pig all night about it on Facebook that night.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

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New forum rank!

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

So what's the score, exactly?
-Regarding Double Jeopardy: Michael Snyder has permanently conceded any further charges arising from 10/28/11; so he can't retaliate from further wrongdoing from Our Pet Lolcow by trying to revive those charges.

The charges may be dropped, but they will remain on his criminal record for the rest of his life. If he continues to harass Snyder, it can be used against Chris in court.

I think actually getting back to the game place would probably involve Rob Bell calling some Cville Hobbies employee who doesn't know what's going on and then getting just enough confusion created that CWC could potentially return, buy stuff without incident, and leave. This is pushing it, but it sounds like Bell has been able to get CWC unbanned before.

Bell has never gotten Chris unbanned, from anywhere, ever. Private businesses like TGP and McDonald's have every right to keep out anyone they don't want in there.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

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New forum rank!

It's just the way of the road

 

[Zero Gun: Fenrir]

Ok, highlighted it for your viewing pleasure, his term thingy is in a week, and his case review is in a couple months. So, there is that.

There's nothing listed to go down in a week. That was the third hearing in the case, the type is 'term,' and the result was 'set for trial.' That hearing happened June 17, 2013.
That, coupled with the lack of details on final disposition has me confused. Why did they set a trial if this case is resolved?

Whoops, my bad. I thought that that 6 was a seven.

 

[CalmMyTits]

Here's a thought, and just a thought. We know that Barb comes up with all kinds of shit to take the blame off herself or Chris (Roach caused Chris' 'tism, Megan was responsible for the trolling back during the Game Place stuff, etc) and they also refused to admit their guilt in the October 28 incident. Given that Snyder gave them what was almost a free pass, I wonder if Barb told Chris, 'naw, don't worry about community service, they won't make you do it because of your owtism' She has her claws in Chris, she keeps him in the hoard and lives in the same room as him, perhaps she didn't want him to go out and do community service so she told him that the court called or something and cancelled his community service, and figured that once the court caught on, she could just play the 'tism card and get her baby manchild out of trouble because they've already done it before, what's to stop them from playing it again? Just an idea.

 

[Marvin]

But... then they'd go to jail. Barb knows better than that. Hell, Chris knows better than that.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Here's a thought, and just a thought. We know that Barb comes up with all kinds of shit to take the blame off herself or Chris (Roach caused Chris' 'tism, Megan was responsible for the trolling back during the Game Place stuff, etc) and they also refused to admit their guilt in the October 28 incident. Given that Snyder gave them what was almost a free pass, I wonder if Barb told Chris, 'naw, don't worry about community service, they won't make you do it because of your owtism' She has her claws in Chris, she keeps him in the hoard and lives in the same room as him, perhaps she didn't want him to go out and do community service so she told him that the court called or something and cancelled his community service, and figured that once the court caught on, she could just play the 'tism card and get her baby manchild out of trouble because they've already done it before, what's to stop them from playing it again? Just an idea.

Not likely. Something like this could probably do a number on her probation, never mind revoke the pity points she gets for being a beleaguered widow. Also, excuse or not, it would get her son in deeper trouble.

Those priorities are in order.

 

[Blue Max]

If Chris ever goes back to the game place and the cops get called he will almost surely have something happen to him, minimum zwould probably be supervised probation or hoouse arrest maximum would be like 30 days in county probably. Its possible but not likely that he will end up in some serious court mandated psych stuff if he keeps getting in trouble and playing the autism card.

What I'm saying upthread is that the Police need to catch CWC in The Game Place for things to go south. If he's nowhere around because Snyder kicks him out, the cause against him looks weak--you'd need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict, and I'm really thinking Snyder is probably still reluctant to become embroiled in a major lawsuit over what might be a last incident. Chris obviously has a major reason to fight since it would lead to a major fight; Snyder really doesn't--and I think that probably tells.

He's been back in the Game Place post-ban (I think this was to collect a picture of Snyder for his dartboard) but managed to get out after Snyder called police. I think it would still be a major ordeal to throw the deck at CWC if all he does is visit the Game Place again and otherwise act respectfully. I get that CWC really should get the message that heading back is potentially a disaster, but my point is that he can probably do it and probably get away with it.

It's doing anything more than going back that is dooming. If he causes any kind of scene, disruption, or problem, that is all on his head. It's getting caught that's where the punchline is, and that's probably a jail term. If anything, 10/28/11 was years late; he should have been busted for the Dartboard attempt, and I think the difficulty in hitting him then still applies now.

Didn't know about Bell not getting OPL unbanned from anywhere. I thought this was the case. OTOH, I'm not suggesting that CWC should go back to the Game Place, but that he potentially could without it leading to Jail Time.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I think Chris just claimed Rob "Robee" Bell got him unbanned from the mall as part of his sinister attempt to make us go to the mall. I'm sure he TRIED to use Bell as his personal valet for all sorts of stuff like that but without any success.