Money Problems/Success with Ordering From CWCVille Etsy/Ebay

[Morbid Boredom]

Yes, and if this happens he would also have to pay some back, the government is ruthless with money that does not belong to them, but they love to act like it does. All things aside, the government seems to be enjoying persecuting lonesome widows for working a few extra hours overtime while receiving Social Security as opposed to pursuing blatant frauds with autism and personality disorders.


It's not just that, but the fact that he intentionally did not report this crap, either way, nothing will come of it, I am sure dozens of people have already tried to take down the government's little autistic darling to no affect.

Perhaps the feds received some real screamers from a-logs and weens, then decided this dumbass was the target of an insane and misguided campaign of harassment.

 

[Dain Bramage]

Chris can make quite a lot of money before it starts to affect his tugboat. It's something on the order of an extra $800/month. He can make up to $800/month (or whatever the limit is) on top of what he gets from his tugboat indefinitely, without affecting his situation.

If Chris has sold $10k over the past two years, that's less than $500/month. (I don't think he's sold close to that much, but he's probably made a few thousand dollars, at least, of profit in the past few years.)

If he's ever raked in anything over $1900 within a six month period, that's going to get him in trouble.

And if he ever has saved up more than $2000 that's trouble too, but with the way Chris spends off the money as soon as he gets it, it should rarely reach that mark.

 

[January Cyst]

Chris can make quite a lot of money before it starts to affect his tugboat. It's something on the order of an extra $800/month. He can make up to $800/month

Oh, he can.
But not in the way he does now.
He would have to report everything and his accounting has to stand up to government scrutiny.
Working a job and properly reporting it to the government on welfare isn't the problem but rather that Chris is a self-employed "businessman" on SSI who doesn't report anything and doesn't pay taxes.

If he's ever raked in anything over $1900 within a six month period, that's going to get him in trouble.

He likely has and since he doesn't keep track, the tax-man will likely estimate his earnings (which is never good and generally negative)


This however implies that fatty would actually get caught, which seems unlikely after all this time

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

How likely is the autism card to get him out of failing to declare and/or pay taxable income?

 

[Subconcious Offense]

How likely is the autism card to get him out of failing to declare and/or pay taxable income?

Hard to say, he's not even going to be earning enough to do that, and even then he's not going to be found out, let's cross that bridge when we get there.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Just imagine what a per page "Sonichu Comic" Paetron would pull in. The only problem there is that he would actually have to, you know, work?

He already offered a deal of $10 power page. Someone paid him $1,000 for 100 pages, and he's basically forgotten about drawing the comic. Chris does not believe in holding to his obligations. Patreon wouldn't change that attitude.

 

[timtommy]

He likely has and since he doesn't keep track, the tax-man will likely estimate his earnings (which is never good and generally negative)


This however implies that fatty would actually get caught, which seems unlikely after all this time

That's the thing. There probably have been several points where he should have sent the government a few bucks. But it's not only time, it's also the small amounts. Maybe he owes a couple hundred in back taxes. The government doesn't care. He's no different than a guy whose neighbour paid him a couple hundred bucks to help him move or a kid who mows lawns for cash.

This whole "Chris is a tax fraud" thing reminds me of some of the stuff that went on during the last trial. People would comb the legal code looking for crimes that they thought it could be argued Chris was guilty of and then got outraged when Chris wasn't given the maximum sentence for all of those crimes. That's not how the world works. Because unlike the CWCKi, in the real world, shit can be to minor.

 

[Dain Bramage]

This however implies that fatty would actually get caught, which seems unlikely after all this time

It might only be because the IRS or whomever works in a bureaucracy where the staff is underfunded and the backlog is immense. If Chris is getting away with what he does because of lack of tax funds to investigate it (ironic, huh?), then imagine what sort of crooks are out there REALLY screwing Uncle Sam over.

 

[January Cyst]

He's no different than a guy whose neighbour paid him a couple hundred bucks to help him move or a kid who mows lawns for cash.

Sure he is.
Both of these cases would be hush-hush and payed for in cash.
Chris has had a business presence on several platforms for well over a year now where he sells merchandise that he produces for the sole purpose of selling it for a profit.
And all of this ist pretty visible since both etsy and ebay keep a record of these things.
Selling a few of his old tvs (that defined superbow sunday) on ebay will bother no one, but producing and selling thousands of dollars worth of goods will generally attract attention eventually.

 

[Puppet Pal Clem]

Selling a few of his old tvs (that defined superbow sunday) on ebay will bother no one, but producing and selling thousands of dollars worth of goods will generally attract attention eventually.

Yeah, that sweet few hundreds of dollars is totally worth antagonizing a mentally disabled person.
They just have to grow out their twirly mustaches first, and tie Christine to a railroad track.

 

[January Cyst]

Yeah, that sweet few hundreds of dollars is totally worth antagonizing a mentally disabled person.

I think that is part of the reason why Chris hasn't been bothered by either the welfare nor IRS people.
He is

1. low prioty due to pretty low volume of $
2. metally challenged and therefore likely to cause a media circus if sanctioned

 

[timtommy]

Sure he is.
Both of these cases would be hush-hush and payed for in cash.
Chris has had a business presence on several platforms for well over a year now where he sells merchandise that he produces for the sole purpose of selling it for a profit.
And all of this ist pretty visible since both etsy and ebay keep a record of these things.
Selling a few of his old tvs (that defined superbow sunday) on ebay will bother no one, but producing and selling thousands of dollars worth of goods will generally attract attention eventually.

It could attract attention eventually, I guess, I just don't see it as likely soon. Tax compliance for sellers on online marketplaces is a real problem. I suppose a possible scenario would be Chris getting caught up in some big sweep of Etsy where thousands of users get hassled by the IRS.

He is just not a big deal as a tax cheat. As long as he stays that way, there is a possibility that he will pop up on some officials radar, it's just not likely.

I think that is part of the reason why Chris hasn't been bothered by either the welfare nor IRS people.
He is

1. low prioty due to pretty low volume of $
2. metally challenged and therefore likely to cause a media circus if sanctioned

I doubt number 2 is really much of a problem. No non-Christorian is going to give a shit if the IRS asks Chris to pay a few bucks in back taxes. None of the previous events in Christory triggered a media circus, so do you really think the one that finally does it is a letter from the government saying "Hey Chris, you owe us a couple hundred bucks. Please pay it ASAP. Love, President Trump."

 

[DragoonSierra]

And not just with this recent merch either. Remember that guitar hero controller he was selling? It had a shit ton of stickers and shit on it? I think a guy bought it but then a girl was suppose to pick it up. Long story short Chris flirts with the girl via emails. Instead of just talking about the sale and other items he may have they want; he brings up trolls and dating topics. Tries to romance her I guess. But then the girl doesn't show up for the meet up, Chris messages her, and she claims she bought it from the guy that was at the designated spot in the mall. Chris screams about fakes, no one cares.

I'm not sure if a single girl would get Chris to work faster, however...he would just message them more.

Was that exchange ever posted?

12,000 grand a year

I dont think the government is giving Chris 12 million dollars

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Was that exchange ever posted?

http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Regina_e-mails

 

[Asandy31]

Chris can make quite a lot of money before it starts to affect his tugboat. It's something on the order of an extra $800/month. He can make up to $800/month (or whatever the limit is) on top of what he gets from his tugboat indefinitely, without affecting his situation.

If Chris has sold $10k over the past two years, that's less than $500/month. (I don't think he's sold close to that much, but he's probably made a few thousand dollars, at least, of profit in the past few years.)

Was that exchange ever posted?


I dont think the government is giving Chris 12 million dollars

ADD.....sorry

 

[Eddie Slovik]

He already offered a deal of $10 power page. Someone paid him $1,000 for 100 pages, and he's basically forgotten about drawing the comic. Chris does not believe in holding to his obligations. Patreon wouldn't change that attitude.

I kinda think that dumping that much money on him at once was setting him up to fail though. I suspect he got freaked out at the number of pages suddenly due, panicked, and then solved the problem in classic Chris fashion; he ignored it. Granted, it's not a justifiable excuse, but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's either that or he's just an asshole and took the money with no intention of ever fulfilling his obligation.

I think the benefit of a Sonichu Patreon is that he would theoretically actually have to produce and upload pages before collecting which might serve as a better motivator for Chris. Clearly just giving him money doesn't work.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Why do you act like you just learned about Chris yesterday?

 

[Eddie Slovik]

Why do you act like you just learned about Chris yesterday?

Chris can be said to be dumb, selfish, self serving, and generally a prick, but I don't think he's evil. I think that some Christorians are a little quick to perceive a lot of his actions as intentionally malicious in nature, especially when most of the time I honestly don't think that he puts enough thought into his actions for that to be the case. Like, I don't think he is intentionally screwing over his buyers so much as he's an imbecile who dug himself into a hole and isn't smart enough to dig himself back out without stepping on people to do so.

 

[Marvin]

I kinda think that dumping that much money on him at once was setting him up to fail though. I suspect he got freaked out at the number of pages suddenly due, panicked, and then solved the problem in classic Chris fashion; he ignored it. Granted, it's not a justifiable excuse, but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's either that or he's just an asshole and took the money with no intention of ever fulfilling his obligation.

Oh, no, Chris absolutely intends to fulfill that obligation. He hasn't panicked or ignored anything. As far as Chris can tell, he's right on track for his obligations there.

Honestly, I can't fault Chris at all about the $1k thing. Not even a little bit. Chris already intended to make Sonichu comics forever (or until he couldn't think up new plots). In the process of that, he believes at least 100 pages will be produced. The guy gave zero restrictions on when the pages had to be done. He didn't even imply they had to be produced in a timely fashion.

In this case, Chris is 100% in the right.

I think the benefit of a Sonichu Patreon is that he would theoretically actually have to produce and upload pages before collecting which might serve as a better motivator for Chris. Clearly just giving him money doesn't work.

Nah, that's kickstarter. I'm pretty sure patreon is where you just fund someone monthly to further their work on _____, which could be some arbitrary passion like carving soap figures. As long as you say you're working on it, even if all you're doing is daydreaming about all the work you're totally going to do "tomorrow", that qualifies.

It's up to the sponsors themselves to decide that you're not doing anything and withdraw their pledges.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Oh, no, Chris absolutely intends to fulfill that obligation. He hasn't panicked or ignored anything. As far as Chris can tell, he's right on track for his obligations there.

Honestly, I can't fault Chris at all about the $1k thing. Not even a little bit. Chris already intended to make Sonichu comics forever (or until he couldn't think up new plots). In the process of that, he believes at least 100 pages will be produced. The guy gave zero restrictions on when the pages had to be done. He didn't even imply they had to be produced in a timely fashion.

In this case, Chris is 100% in the right.

Nah, that's kickstarter. I'm pretty sure patreon is where you just fund someone monthly to further their work on _____, which could be some arbitrary passion like carving soap figures. As long as you say you're working on it, even if all you're doing is daydreaming about all the work you're totally going to do "tomorrow", that qualifies.

It's up to the sponsors themselves to decide that you're not doing anything and withdraw their pledges.

The real difference is that Patreon money can be yoinked at any time since is either a monthly or per update type of thing. If he had a kickstarter it would never be successfully backed. People might actually give to his Patreon if he produced something.

Heres a question for you Marvin. Is Barb taking money from Chris legal? That money is supposed to go to him to help him pay for food and living expenses. If she uses it for anything else shouldnt that be illegal? I know he is willingly giving it to her but if he does it so she gets off his back and doesnt kick him out of the house then isnt that some sort of blackmail and possibly abuse of the disabled? You always hear about the scammer whos receiving those checks on behalf of some old people hes supposed to be taking care of and is just using it on himself. I want to know if that would qualify?