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For several years now, a pastebin has been floating around that's apparently a bunch of posts from Something Awful's hidden drug subforum. I still go back to it occasionally because it's some of the funniest shit I've ever read:


The first half of the pastebin is a bunch of posts from people playing around with phenazepam, a nasty benzo that caused them to do all kinds of insane/stupid things. The second half, starting with the line "BEGIN GENERIC DRUG SHIT HERE," is various stories and trip reports from people fucking around with poisonous plants, toads, shrooms, and various other deadly shit. One of my favorite posts is:

9:00 PM – Drunk and very happy about life. I am about to show my parents my drinking problem.

The log ended there. The rest of the night was retold to me by the various witnesses involved. I stumbled into my parent's room, screaming and talking randomly about everything, drunk as hell. I started throwing stuff around, swearing at everyone I met, and laughing a lot. Apparently I kept complaining of seeing visions and vivid hallucinations and it was horrifying me.

I became extremely sexual, so when the cops came by I hit on them again and again, and soon they had little choice but to call the ambulance due to the huge amount of drugs I had obviously ingested. I was rude to everyone at the hospital. I pulled my IV out, pissed all over the nurse picking some stuff I threw down for some reason, and even offered to give the cops blowjobs if they let me go. The Doctors confirmed that other than completely out of my mind, I was fine to go, but my parents refused to let me come home, so I was tossed into the drunk tank. Apparently this entire time I kept asking what was going on, because my 'memory was off' as the cops said, I couldn't remember what I said a half minute ago, or even why I was where I was.

He also recalled me having conversations with people who weren't there, suddenly going from outright depressed, to happy, to angry, and then back again, for no reason. I also kept asking to go to prison so I could be 'gangraped', and that I wanted to jerk off right there.

When thrown into the drunk tank I took a shit all over, tried eating it and had to be tasered to stop, pissed under the door, jerked off in the tank, thrown all of my clothing off and dunked my head in the toilet, attacked a cop and had a shot of mace in my face, and I even had entire conversations with invisible people. I was out of my mind.

At about 5:00 AM I snapped out of it when the drugs finally wore off, and I was confused. Due to having no memory of the night before because Zopiclone destroys your ability to make memories while on it--hence why I kept a log ready so I could record as I tripped--I was horrified. There was I, naked, in a sealed room with water everywhere, smelling like piss and shit, and handcuffed to the wall. The next few hours were the most terrifying few hours of my life as nobody came to my aid, and I wouldn't be allowed out for another six hours.
 

Wasn't phenazepam the one that ended up with a goon cooking to death in his own car?

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I don't fuck with meth so uh, could some explain whether this is something that physically happens to meth users or like is this all just her losing her mind to meth.

Like woah lady.
The later. This is like the thing people get when they get the spooky arachnids crawling under their skin, only a little bit more pretentious and sexually deranged.
Wasn't phenazepam the one that ended up with a goon cooking to death in his own car?

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Yep. I wasn't ever a goon but for several years around this time (cf. late half of the GW Bush/beginning of the obama era) phenazepam was making all the internet-drug-nerd people get completely deranged, like the jailhouse crack lesbians I posted on the first page.
It's probably just meth psychosis (which is mostly brought on by lack of sleep, not the meth itself) but I also have no idea what happens to the human body when you spend all of your time massaging your skin in a sauna for a month straight?
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The later. This is like the thing people get when they get the spooky arachnids crawling under their skin, only a little bit more pretentious and sexually deranged.

Yep. I wasn't ever a goon but for several years around this time (cf. late half of the GW Bush/beginning of the obama era) phenazepam was making all the internet-drug-nerd people get completely deranged, like the jailhouse crack lesbians I posted on the first page.

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Yeah I figured all the "my dealer is turning me into a living brick of black meth" shit was sheer crazy, but I have no idea of the subcutaneous effects of heavy methamphetamine use and nothing about that shit would really surprise me at this point.
 
Do people still try to reclaim used drugs from their own piss and use them again? I think I remember that going on over at Something Awful, though I don't have a functioning account there anymore.
 
Do people still try to reclaim used drugs from their own piss and use them again? I think I remember that going on over at Something Awful, though I don't have a functioning account there anymore.
This used to be done by Siberian shamans, but those fuckers got drunk on fermented goat mlk but you mean the fact that it's not as unheard of as a practice in the really fucked up hardcore chemical users as we'd hope (by which "chem users" I mean it in it's more oldschool sense, people who do a lot of synthetic drugs like MA and even MDMA; today it might imply an RC enthusiast more readily.) Pretty much all of the exotic routes of administration amongst these people seem to be fetishized and over the top. There is, of course, "plugging", rectal administration of drugs, and meme'd up for nearly 2 decades now on Bluelight, there's something, I forget the name, something like "dry shot," maybe, that has to do with putting drugs in a dry syringe and then sucking in one's blood. And then of course somebody mentioned vaginal administration earlier. (Which reminds me of the absolutely horrifying "Ecstasy Use in Pregnancy" report somewhere that ends it's story with an unusually empathic Indigo child.) All of this shit strikes me as inordinately sexual. Needle drugs themselves are often fetishized as penetrative, too.
 
I'll briefly cover two topics here: a lulzy old meme from drug forums, and an unpoular take on one of the most lionized members of the drug culture of the past decade.

(1)

SWIM, or someone who isn't me, is a pseudonym for oneself that is used, among other places, on DrugsForum, under the very stupid theory that it will save someone from legal trouble for talking about drugs online. First off, the feds don't care about your starting to think your dick is shrinking on 5-MeO-DiPT and probably don't even care if you brag about selling drugs online unless you are either already a person of interest or are totally exceptional. People talking about the past, as I am here, almost surely are safe, unless you're talking about some really nasty felony or a case that the cops are really memeing up and want to close some loose ends of. Few people qualify for this. Thinking that you're in danger for what you post is generally a paranoiac exercise in what's fundamentally a sort of egotism. If you really care, then there are ways to write things vaguely that don't implicate you or anyone in particular. "SWIM," however, is fundamentally exceptional. It looks like this (it is grammatical to substitute all pronouns): "SWIM took 1.3 grams of diphenhydramine, and thought a giant black dog was chasing him around and calling him Fausty. SWIM ran through the kitchen, bumped into SWIM's mom, and then proceeded to disrobe, grab a steak knife, and run off onto the highway, burning SWIM's datura plants in a superpowered shamanic ritual to try to banish the wicked spirits of deleriants in favor of the friendly spirits of ayahuasca and pot. Later SWIM was visited by the Green Lady, who proceeded to sex him up while smoking imaginary cigarettes."

Since it's generally higher-watt intellectually than the Other Blue Forum, Bluelight hates this practice and likes to mock people who use it. One of the most entertaining trolling methods on Bluelight was for a mod to edit a post of a "swimmer" to say "I took...", etc. It was amazing how much people spazzed out saying they were being endangered. Erowid also eschews the practice, but it shows up all over the place due to the influence of DF and a couple of other places. Generally though these days (I'm not sure if it's still even enforced in earnest on DF: it probably is, it's as synonymous with D-F as plugging is with bluelight. Plugging, BTW, is shoving drugs up your ass. Became popular in the meth-and-molz subset of the gay rave community. People probably from this community brought the idea to bluelight as an economic and a harm reduction measure: you get more molecules for your money in your bloodstream and allegedly are less likely to vomit, etc. Really it's a meme. Everyone talks about both "swim" and "plugging" in the social forums, but it's a joke. Anyone who plugs is a really an unironic fag and they're doing it for faggy reasons even if they're not gay.)

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Ross Ulbricht or dread pirate roberts (die hipster) of Silk Road fame. People lionize this man as being some sort of autistic warrior for good who got his boots smoked by a biased and ignorant judge and jury. He was actually a dick. I should know. I used to chat with him via OTR (plugin for Pidgin that uses cryptography over various instant messenger stystems; Pidgin, OTR, Tor, a VPN and PGP are the essential toolkit for this sort of thing) all the time, way before the Silk Road was a thing.

For the following to make sense to most people, I'll have to take it back a bit further: the online drug market has basically three antecedents:

(1) the oldschool NROP scene (no-records online pharmacy) which was all about finding such places internationally (or in some rare cases, crooked or semi-crooked doctors who would prescribe shit domestically; this was legit for a while although I think by the time that OxyContin even came out it was forbidden to write scripts for pain pills without, you know, seeing the patient);
(2) the steroid scene (very similar although about importing bulk drugs either as pharmaceuticals or the very interesting practice of making your own, the latter involves getting raw powder steroids and sterile (one hopes) binder, things like grapeseed oil, combining them, filtering it down, and putting it in vails. Some of these operations are extremely professional and are probably almost as safe as doing real pharmaceuticals. Some are shoddy and dangerous.

Counterfeiting is a large problem. It is a large problem for pills, too. Especially after fentanyl took off in a big way (this was kind of Ross's fault, too, I'll touch on this later) they would have fentanyl in it, which is a horrifically dangerous as the ratio of it's efficacy for snorting, shooting, oral, etc. is different than oxycontin, and shooting it can kill you rather readily, especially if one doesn't know it's fent, because another crucial ratio, that between the threshhold of getting high and the threshhold of dying from respiratory depression, is dramatically decreased because fentanyl isn't as fun as heroin: that is to say, to get "high" enough to feel "high" rather than just "well" and not "sick" you have to take much closer to the deadly dose than you woud for heroin.

(3) the research chemical scene. Stemming from Shulgin and then the hive (which bee one of the most based forums ever) and rhodium and the lists that used to circulate of suppliers for precursors to (mostly) MDMA. Some small companies got appropriate licenses to bulk-by shit like 2C-drugs and tryptamines (later a lot more) and sold them under the label "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION." one of the more memeable companies from that era was "JLF Poisonous Non-Consumables" (jlfcatalog.com) which sold everything from Bufo toads to 2CB to Amanita mushrooms and various datura ingredients. They got pwnt as did a bunch of others when some kids died from 2CB and some other bad shit happened. Then the scene mostly went underground or to Canada. It became fuckhueg with Mephedrone (a ridiculously euphoric drug, consider it cocaine and MDMA crossed) in the UK and then mostly degenerated into utter me-too cannabinoids and cathinones and that sucked ass. Later, opiates like WIN-over-9000 and various fentanyl analogues (alpha-methyl-fentanyl being an important one) were added. People have said for years that it would be the death of the scene. It sort of was. It was definitely the death of a lot of people.

Anyway, by the late 90s we had something called RCML, "Research Chemical Mailing List" for this purpose, and later on we got private forums. At some point someone decided to start selling actual illegal drugs via email, and some forum admins decided it was OK. Originally they were running in the clear (sometimes even without https) and Tor didn't exist yet or nobody knew what it was. hushmail was popular. It later gave up emails to the authorities in a steroids case. Much later safe-mail, based in that Jew country they have, became popular. For some reason hushmail remained popular, possibly for meme value; people started using PGP more, but still, traffic analysis is a hell of a drug for the authorities. The best thing to do was generally to communicate via PM on the forums, if you trusted the admin, but there were a large number of scam forums, most of whom were run by one guy out of Canada, who's dox basically everyone who was anyone wound up getting, which controlled maybe up to half of the scene at one point. His hallmark was creating great communites and doing long-cons on them generally involving opiates and then shutting up shop with people's money. He was also known for shitposting on Usenet calling his critics paedophiles, as well as RPing as a female online. Weird and very obnoxious guy.

But, 10-15 years ago, the scene had really coalesced into something pretty cool. It was a mixture of well-connected and smart midlevel dealers (well, usually smart, you had guys who posted autobiographical tl;dr shit and pictures of their girlfriends and stuff, plus everyone gossiped worse than a knitting circle) and drug nerds from places like Bluelight. It was a really comfy scene, mostly, if you were in with the right people. Via networking you could get pretty much whatever drug you wanted. If you were known to be cool you might even be able to pay for it via cash in the mail, more likely it was via wire (Western Union and Moneygram), Green Dot, or similar. Different forums had different focuses and were intended for different levels of operator. Often there was a pyramid structure, with peoples more oriented towards selling larger amounts of drugs to dealers on the top ones, and people selling smaller amounts (often the same people or resellers of the former) in the lower end ones. People generally knew each other and vendors would quickly get an appropriately good or bad reputation and scammers were mercilessly chased off. All in all it was pretty based.

Then Ross ruined it all. He fucked up in one big way: he invited everyone. The reason the scene was awesome is that it was just cool people and dumb people would get banned or never invited. You were often responsible for the behavior of people you referred. Inviting anyone who'd heard of the forum was an insane idea and I told Ross the same thing. I told him he was signing himself into prison for a very long time by doing that, as well as signing the death-warrant for the entire scene. I wound up being right. It was Chanology era 4chan plus AOL joining Usenet but instead of ignorant people and shitty forced memes it was people going to prison and having really bad shit happen to them with fentanyls, exotic benzodiazpines, substituted cathinones/beta-ketones, exotic dissociatives (3-MeO-PCP and the like.) It was really bad. I was out of the scene by then but still adjacent enough to see how bad it was. I even had a little corner (hidden forum) I ran on a (non-drug-selling) site called "Cassandra's Place" where I larped as a chick named Cassandra (posting as "cassie") who (obviously) was right all along and cynical about how gay everything had gotten and had formed a support group for people who didn't like it. It was comfy but didn't take off for reasons that in retrospect are pretty obvious. It was about as cool as it sounds, too.

Shit that got gay included stuff getting increasingly corporatized (like legal marijuana did -- I had good friends who used to grow pot, and now cannot make ends meet doing that, so they basically just become sellers for crap that gets drop-shipped from California or wherever), and pandering to the most popular chemicals driving out the sale of interesting chemicals, and vast increases in price (LSD for instance costs seems to cost at least twice what it should across the board whether you're buying 1 dose or 10,000) because a market full of custies will bear it, increased attention by LE due to the proliferation of gaychems among normies (including the availability of fentanyl to dumb niggers who try and make fentadope, which is actually hard to do without killing people, as mixing particles of different sizese is a ctually a big problem in industrial/pharmaceutical materials science, let alone in one's kitchen, as opposed to fentanyl used to be only available to people who'd know how to use it, and the availability of a lotof bullshit that's sold as LSD or MDMA by people who just don't give a fuck as opposed to being sold mostly to people who actually wanted weird drugs.)

So the effects basically sucked. To someone who put in the effort to be a part of the scene there was literally no upside to Silk Road unless you were a drug dealer and willing to work with that level of exposure and with random strangers rather than friends of friends. To random faggots ordering drugs, maybe, but fuck them. It was also the death kneel of an entire class of drug dealers: people who bought drugs through connections online and sold them at places like festivals at huge profits (a $6,000 kilo of ketamine from India sells for 10x that easily...they don't do that anymore) could no longer compete with their customers buying from larger scale suppliers. These people were often really fucking cool so Ross can get fucked for putting them out of work, too.

Now, let me tell you why, beyond his actions having gay effects, Ross was a faggot to begin with. He was a literal cuck (he was traumatized by the end of a relationship in his late teens, years later) BTW if anyone wants to meme that up but it's actually sort of relevant because it shows his level of social exceptionality. This, as so often happens, lead him to develop autistic poplitical beliefs. In his case it was an extreme libertarian sect called "Agorism", lead by one S.E. Konkin, which holds a rather strange but fairly simple thesis: hey guys, lets overthrow the government by doing illegal shit and then having enough resources by making money on it to challenge the legitimacy of the State. This is what Ross actually believed. Together with the "cypherpunk" shit left over from the 90s crypto wars. Giving this kind of faggot access to Tor and Bitcoin is a disaster because they are by nature optimists who look at those tools and think they make them invincible. By the fate of Ross, obviously this isn't so. More cucky behavior: he had ~$7 million in BTC when they popped him (the story of the corrupt DEA agents that tried to steal it is gold btw but off topic here) and he had basically used none of it (he was living in some shithole with 4 other people he didn't even know!) Weird motherfucker.

So basically what he did is sell out his friends in order to make an autistic political and techno-optimist point, later pwning himself into prison. If he had one redeeming quality he was not a liar or a scammer as many of his avowed successors are. But he was still an enormous faggot.

Notable quotable: "The only vulnerable points of the scene are getting cash and drugs physically!" (Read that again. That would be "all the points that matter," not "the only vulnerable points," and they are more than a little vulnerable.)
 
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SWIM, or someone who isn't me

I'm still reading your post but I just want to say the second I saw this goddamn thing my skeleton tried to cringe itself into dust. Those stories are the worst thing ever and the second I see that fucking term I disregard the post 95% of the time.
 
Someone in balls-out (probably methamphetamine-related) psychosis flips his shit because someone posted a picture of an abscess on Bluelight which apparently resembled theirs:
INTRUSION OF SOLITUDE
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW MY ARM
there is some random.txt quality shit in there
 
First off, the feds don't care about your starting to think your dick is shrinking on 5-MeO-DiPT and probably don't even care if you brag about selling drugs online unless you are either already a person of interest or are totally exceptional.

If I remember correctly, Ross Ulbricht got busted because he ordered a fake passport over clearnet and had it delivered to his house. It was the smoking gun that allowed the feds to get a search warrant from what I understand. So, yeah, it took Ross shooting himself in the foot to get caught so the idiots who can't stop talking about doing illegal shit online are pretty safe.
 
The story was a bit more complicated than that and there's a very good and detailed explanation on wikipedia which really doesn't need to be quoted in full.

What it amounts to is something many people who were on a shitlist and eventually caught haven't considered: Law enforcement agencies have an incredibly long breath. They'll collect information on you for years, maybe even decades. If all the tiny little pieces eventually then create a picture, you're toast.
 
If I remember correctly, Ross Ulbricht got busted because he ordered a fake passport over clearnet and had it delivered to his house. It was the smoking gun that allowed the feds to get a search warrant from what I understand. So, yeah, it took Ross shooting himself in the foot to get caught so the idiots who can't stop talking about doing illegal shit online are pretty safe.

The story was a bit more complicated than that and there's a very good and detailed explanation on wikipedia which really doesn't need to be quoted in full.

What it amounts to is something many people who were on a shitlist and eventually caught haven't considered: Law enforcement agencies have an incredibly long breath. They'll collect information on you for years, maybe even decades. If all the tiny little pieces eventually then create a picture, you're toast.

I'd imagine Ross's case probably involved a bit of "parallel construction", where they were watching him to find evidence to bust him that didn't involve disclosing some secret ways they were surveilling him.
 
While searching for phenazepam stories I ran into the greatest pastebin I've ever read. I'd drop it into the copypasta thread, but it's so long that I'd have to spread it out across like four posts. So here's an archive!


It's about a woman who's trying to make it into journalism, so she rides with a couple of subcontracted paramedics as they respond to late-night medical emergencies in extremely bad parts of Ukraine. The paramedics are druggies who leave a trail of chaos and destruction everywhere they go:

"We had to wait a bit for that one to take effect, but at least the shot in the face shut the guy up, and he was just gesticulating in slow motion now. Yoyo ditched the syringe in an open milk bottle in the fridge (he kept doing stuff like that - his idea of fun) and we both had some brandy from the guy's cupboard. Yoyo squirted joose in his, and I accepted just the last 2ml or so; really just because I wanted him to trust me. Anyway, the guy goes limp and it's inventory time again. Xenu is on his feet by now, going through the fridge one tier at a time - absolutely disgusting stuff in there, like liquid (beyond ripe) fruit and an oven dish that looked like a bedpan. Then there's a crash outside, cause Yoyo threw the TV out the window."

Other highlights include:
  • The guy driving the "ambulance" (an old Mercedes van) hits two people on a moped, and deposits them in a dumpster instead of properly treating them
  • The crew stops at a bar, and while the bartender is distracted, one of them contaminates the bar's entire vodka supply with LSD
  • The crew epoxies a fake mustache to a patient before transporting him
  • The crew has a great time at a closed funfair with the world's smelliest gypsy
  • The crew generally contaminates every unattended comestible they come across with phenazepam and/or other drugs, as a joke
That's just a few bits of it, too. The whole thing is like watching the apocalypse happen, only instead of hitting everywhere at once, it goes door to door.
 
While searching for phenazepam stories I ran into the greatest pastebin I've ever read. I'd drop it into the copypasta thread, but it's so long that I'd have to spread it out across like four posts. So here's an archive!


It's about a woman who's trying to make it into journalism, so she rides with a couple of subcontracted paramedics as they respond to late-night medical emergencies in extremely bad parts of Ukraine. The paramedics are druggies who leave a trail of chaos and destruction everywhere they go:



Other highlights include:
  • The guy driving the "ambulance" (an old Mercedes van) hits two people on a moped, and deposits them in a dumpster instead of properly treating them
  • The crew stops at a bar, and while the bartender is distracted, one of them contaminates the bar's entire vodka supply with LSD
  • The crew epoxies a fake mustache to a patient before transporting him
  • The crew has a great time at a closed funfair with the world's smelliest gypsy
  • The crew generally contaminates every unattended comestible they come across with phenazepam and/or other drugs, as a joke
That's just a few bits of it, too. The whole thing is like watching the apocalypse happen, only instead of hitting everywhere at once, it goes door to door.



so he breaks out the heavy artillery that is Neil Diamond's Hot August Night. Of course he's got it on tape too, but thank God the megaphone is stuck on the van now. He starts pummelling the guy's door with his blaster on full volume and a rather scary look in his eyes. Like a Jehova's witness, you know. Zealous. The guy is roaring at him from behind the door just about as loud, though. I wish I had better English, cause I'm not sure what he said most of the time, even when he wasn't screaming.

This is one of the best things I've ever read, great find.
 
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A long time back, I ran into a copypasta by an insane man who wanted to relive being a toddler. His approach to this was to take an enormous amount of hallucinogens and laxatives. The resulting trip report was a lengthy narration in which he was teased and humiliated by various young siblings while he explosively shat himself again and again.

I can't find that copypasta now, and I feel like it needs to be preserved for the ages. Does anyone know which one I'm talking about?
 
I'd imagine Ross's case probably involved a bit of "parallel construction", where they were watching him to find evidence to bust him that didn't involve disclosing some secret ways they were surveilling him.

Using his rossulbricht@gmail.com in a public post about setting up a drug site probably wasn't a great idea either. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was parallel construction involved but fucking up that big that early should have been cause to abandon the plan entirely at the outset especially since the dumb fuck was doing shit that more or less guaranteed life in prison (under the kingpin statute) if caught.
 
Using his rossulbricht@gmail.com in a public post about setting up a drug site probably wasn't a great idea either. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was parallel construction involved but fucking up that big that early should have been cause to abandon the plan entirely at the outset especially since the dumb fuck was doing shit that more or less guaranteed life in prison (under the kingpin statute) if caught.
Knowing him, he remembered that he did this but still thought that running his site over Tor would make him invincible. He had a downright magical view of BTC and Tor. I think part of his problem was that he wasn't a drug dealer by trade and thus wasn't familiar with being on the receiving end of the long arm of the law and just didn't think like that. Again, his whole project was ideological in nature; the twin delusions of techno-optimism and deranged libertarianism really did him in.
 
Oh man, reading erowid has given me plenty of entertainment over the years but there's one tale of sorrow in particular that I'll always remember.

This kid heard some other kids at his school talking about "duster" and he thought they were talking about furniture duster like Endust:
I herd them talking about duster and I remember my mom having a can of century duster it was called, I figured this would do the job.
He also got the bright idea to huff some petrol:
Having herd about gas inhaling too I thought 'fuck it might as well go all out'

His parents leave for the weekend and he puts his tard plan into action. He starts by taking massive pulls of the furniture duster spray over and over, then switches to huffing the petrol by sucking on a gas can. What an absolute madlad.

Of course he gets insanely fucked up in a bad way, manages to break a glass table cutting himself up in the process, collapses and completely loses his mind:
I kept my eyes closed and all I could hear was evil laughter and steve urkels voice saying 'Did I do that?' over and over in different tones, that's when I lost all bodily function, I seized up stiff as a board and pissed and shit myself.

Imagine being dumb enough to permanently wreck your body in one of the most idiotic ways imaginable, and as you lay quivering on the floor you hear...Steve Urkel. I actually feel sorry for this kid, I hope he's doing OK now but seriously doubt it.

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67325
 
Imagine being dumb enough to permanently wreck your body in one of the most idiotic ways imaginable, and as you lay quivering on the floor you hear...Steve Urkel. I actually feel sorry for this kid, I hope he's doing OK now but seriously doubt it.

The really bad shit is datura or brugmansia or any of those seriously poisonous plants. Almost every single report of people dumb enough to do these are the "Trainwrecks & Trip Disasters" type and end with the user in a hospital, in jail, or in a jail hospital. They're all absolutely absurdly hellish experiences nobody would want. I always find it funny when someone who did one of these reports has another because they did it again, because they're fucking insane.
 
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