r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

How will society function without jobs?


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Nah, but that's a lie you enjoy telling yourselves.

I spent a lot of time in 8chan lurking on the various alt-right boards and practically every young alt-righter worked in retail or in some other service job and was complaining about it. Nothing that would constitute an actual career.
He's talking about people who don't work at all and live on the dole, not people stuck in dead-end jobs. I don't see the comparison between a cashier and a dole bludger. One of them clearly earns a wage and contributes something to society, even if it's not something they can make a career from, while the other doesn't do any work at all.
 
There was a comment Null made in one of his MATI streams where he believed that social security should be regulated because there's no better argument against it then seeing what paupers actually do in their spare time. I'm almost inclined to agree with him because it seems like the more worthless or useless you are, the further left you happen to be. There are a lot of people on antiwork or twitter who seem to have no source of income other than, not surprising, social security. And what do they do with their spare time? They sit online all day long and retweet politics and try to get some big boom in numbers so they can, as they seem to hope, make a living off of it.

It's why I tell people they should never under any circumstances attend a Portland, LA, or Seattle riot because one of my friends actually had his car window damaged and the perpetrator who committed the act couldn't garnish any of his wages because, again not surprising, he didn't have any wages to garnish. Basically he was worthless and because a car window is one of the cheapest parts to replace there was no point in pursuing damages. That might be why so many rioters get away with doing the shit they do, because they're worthless and the government can't really do anything to them because they're essentially pulling their own money out of their pockets. It really seems to me like this internet generation languishes and laments being useless. And I kind of empathize with Null when he says if you are absolutely useless, you should die for it. Maybe not to that extreme, but I'm a little mad at the internet that my tax dollars are being used as a fund to keep worthless people like antiwork or againsthatesubs alive.
I think most of these people are genuinely mentally ill. They don't work because they implicitly know they'll just be a hassle to everyone, bosses, coworkers, and customers, and end up fired. They COULD get help for their mental illness, but they absolutely refuse to. That's not really something you can fix, because mental illness doesn't fix itself without a desire to fix it. In that case, rather than mandatory therapy they really are best just sitting around spamming Twitter with a tweet every five minutes. I don't want to see people like this when I go shopping or get a bite to eat.

As for the losers in Portland and Seattle, they make a strong argument for debtors' prisons and a living example of why prisons are necessary. None of them spend time in jail, they just get fines they don't pay. Actually, sometimes they get paid to riot since in Portland (might be all of Oregon, but I know Portland for sure), if someone posts bail for you, the bail bond is returned to you. So all these Antifa/hobo methhead losers naturally figured this out and ran off with a lot of bail money from some dumb anarchist/commie collective who'd been crowdfunding bail. Those cities are as unbelievably fucking stupid as their average resident.
 
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I'm almost inclined to agree with him because it seems like the more worthless or useless you are, the further left you happen to be.
Real life and living here has taught me that just doesn't apply. Useless people come in all flavors, just look up "First Amendment Audtors" on the YT.

. And I kind of empathize with Null when he says if you are absolutely useless, you should die for it. Maybe not to that extreme, but I'm a little mad at the internet that my tax dollars are being used as a fund to keep worthless people like antiwork or againsthatesubs alive.
So what qualifies as useless? I'd definitely qualify by many definitions. If I do, I'll welcome Null to come over here and help me neck.
 
Real life and living here has taught me that just doesn't apply. Useless people come in all flavors, just look up "First Amendment Audtors" on the YT.


So what qualifies as useless? I'd definitely qualify by many definitions. If I do, I'll welcome Null to come over here and help me neck.
Useless by choice rather than physical or mental defections.
 
Okay, but again, is it limited to unemployment or is there a minimum income level to qualify for a "Real" job or such?
Okay, I’m mainly talking about people who willingly keep themselves unemployed and do nothing except sit around and tweet bullshit all day. If you’re working retail and going to school or getting a trade off of trust funds or parental funding or working in manufacturing or warehouses you don’t count. If you’re actively earning capital I have no qualms with you. People who willingly make themselves as useless as possible cheating and manipulating the government or divorce for child support are useless to me. I.E Melinda Scott. Probably anyone who has pronouns in their bio. Don’t take that post overly serious either it’s just a hyperbolic statement.
 
Antiwork now has its dedicated rDrama parody: https://old.reddit.com/r/noworking/

It's only been around for a day, so let's see where this is going and if that will mine some good salt.
The streams have been crossed: https://archive.md/o9xJ8

Money quote:
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Reminds me of some people I've read, but I can't quite put my finger on where...
 
Another good option is to limit (as in convince) a large proportion of women that they are happier maintaining a household over making PowerPoints. Maybe limit women to certain fields like Nursing, medical technicians and only allow widows with children to work.

For example up here in Ontario we are having a debate where leftists want $10 a day childcare. Which physically makes no sense with the amount they want to pay a childcare worker for 8 hours a day and one worker can only look after 10 kids or whatever limit they have set by legislation and common sense.

I want to argue that I know a way to get $0/day childcare if we just ban/discourage women from working. Just such a move would be political suicide (but then again women were the biggest and most loyal supporters of the National Socialist Party in Germany)
Why bother *ahem* convincing women not to work when there are plenty of lame-ass men willing to live in their mom's basement's forever? Or on ranches? Seems like, buddy, you're targeting the wrong demographic. You need to target the momma's boys if you want to limit workers, not women.
 
Also, the government no longer regulates which trades are in demand so colleges pump put hundreds of tradies and it pushes the wages down like crazy.
If you need the government to artificially restrict the supply of the thing people pay you to do, you're probably not as special as you think you are. Immigrants stealing your job is different from your fellow countrymen; the government is supposed to protect you from the deleterious impact of shitstain pakis invading your country, but it has the same obligation to you as it does to everyone else in Canada. I have little sympathy for anyone arguing "I'm poor because the government won't let me set up a cartel!"; the milk and egg board can go fuck itself too.

Plumbers and electricians never should have been making $120k to begin with. It's not flipping burgers, but it's not rocket science either. People like Mike Rowe spent decades telling people to go into the trades; you can't complain that they've now listened. We've had 10 years of memes and smug pipefitters and HVAC guys going "You got $150k in college debt; meanwhile, I make $120k sticking pipes together at age 19"--you probably should have known that supply was going to balance demand eventually and adjusted your plans accordingly.
A good job where you can afford the roof over your head gives you meaning.
A decidedly millennial concept. You aren't owed "meaning" by your employer. Do you think the serfs grinding out paltry wheat harvests found their jobs meaningful? Do you think the guys on the Model T assembly line found their jobs meaningful? Every living creature on this earth has to work to survive; you aren't special.

I don't feel bad that you've voluntarily decided to exchange your time for money and now you wish you could spend your time doing something else. We all do that; work isn't always fun or fulfilling. A tiny percentage of us get to do something we truly love and be successful at it. More often than not, those who enjoy their work have learned to enjoy it, because they couldn't survive any other way.

We seem to have arrived in a place where no one is willing to grind anymore, under the mistaken belief that previous generations were just handed their boomer jobs no questions asked. It's important to remember that the Boomers are at the end of a 40+ year career, so of course they make more than you do. That's how tenure works...and guess what, Bob may not know how to open MS Word, but he can probably tell you every facet of that inventory system that was installed in 1987. He probably knows every part number off by heart. If Bob wasn't useful, your employer would have hired 3 of you instead of retaining 1 of Bob.

If you hate your job, get a new one; it's the easiest economy in decades to do that in. If you don't have the skills to secure something you enjoy, I sympathize, but it's also the easiest time in history to learn those skills, for free, on the Internet.

Everyone who even marginally agrees with this philosophy needs to give their balls a tug, if you can still find them.
 
If you need the government to artificially restrict the supply of the thing people pay you to do, you're probably not as special as you think you are.

If you are even trying to make a "free market" argument with regards to Canada I don't know what to tell you. I agree with smashing the cartels, but we only ever see change that makes the working class worse off.

Sole source contracts? Fine. Backroom deals? Ok. Mob controlled construction? No problem. Telco and power monopolies? Yes please.

But FUCK the idea anyone should still make a living wage, open up the bottom rungs of society to pure freemarket ideas and then go on and on about the invisible hand. Get your head checked lmao

I don't want to come across as anti free market though. A free economy without unions and cartels but with checks to stop monopolies leads to more innovation, better wages and better prices. I just can't stand the current system where the top gets all the benefits of a socialized economy and everyone else gets sweet fuck all because muh free market.
 
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I think most of these people are genuinely mentally ill. They don't work because they implicitly know they'll just be a hassle to everyone, bosses, coworkers, and customers, and end up fired. They COULD get help for their mental illness, but they absolutely refuse to. That's not really something you can fix, because mental illness doesn't fix itself without a desire to fix it.
Are you talking about the homeless in the PNW or the early 20s tankies in the PNW? Because a lot of the homeless have serious mental illnesses and will never be able to fit into society. Fairly difficult to just bootstrap yourself out of schizophrenia. The tankies just need to grow up a bit until they get bored of smashing the state or whatever it is they think they're doing.
 
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