Containment Random Chris Updates

[King Kiwi]

The only unfortunate thing about Chris ending up in the loony bin was that it didn't happen soon or for long enough.

I'm all for milking the cow, but how the hell he's managed to escape being institutionalised for as long as he has still baffles me despite the entire world practically knowing what he had for breakfast last Tuesday.

Well, if there's anything he's learned the last 2/3 years it's secrecy.

He may have learned that while he was in the looney bin with his lawyer and then from his enablers.

Who knows what skullduggery or delinquency he's up to undetected.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

Well, if there's anything he's learned the last 2/3 years it's secrecy.

He may have learned that while he was in the looney bin with his lawyer and then from his enablers.

Who knows what skullduggery or delinquency he's up to undetected.

The main influencing factors here were almost certainly Heilberg, prison / mental hospital life, and Caden.

Heilberg needed his client to shut up so that he could skate on the incest charges by playing the tard card; prison and the nuthouse are two places where, "I'm a multidimensional Jesus Christ and I fucked my mom," will get you seriously beat to shit and / or killed; Caden has been very clear about how Chris is simply a business to him by way of Praetor, which means he can't afford to have Chris fuck that up for him.

Flutter and Caden are currently the two most likely ones. Can't see Heilberg wanting to have much to do with him, given the generally-negative attention the case attracted in the media and Chris' lack of money to send his way.

As an aside, Heilberg was an interesting choice for a defence attorney since he's about as popular in the region as a lumpy fart for having defended one of the Beltway Snipers, John Allen Muhammad. Granted, that defence failed and Muhammad deservedly got the hot shot, but just the fact that he was on the team that represented that piece of shit nearly tanked his career. Maybe he saw Chris as his chance at some sort of comeback: he already had a track record of defending sex offenders and perhaps thought that in 2021 the climate was right for being able to check the stunning and brave transwoman incest box to his benefit.

Much like Muhammad, that also ultimately failed since none of the proceedings could be used to further his career once the Autism Disorder Deferral was slapped onto them and everything went into radio silence.

Just something I've always wondered about, as well as who paid for Heilberg to act as his attorney.

 

[AnOminous]

As an aside, Heilberg was an interesting choice for a defence attorney since he's about as popular in the region as a lumpy fart for having defended one of the Beltway Snipers, John Allen Muhammad. Granted, that defence failed and Muhammad deservedly got the hot shot, but just the fact that he was on the team that represented that piece of shit nearly tanked his career. Maybe he saw Chris as his chance at some sort of comeback: he already had a track record of defending sex offenders and perhaps thought that in 2021 the climate was right for being able to check the stunning and brave transwoman incest box to his benefit.

This is nonsense, he had a 40 year career and was a named partner at his small firm until basically retiring in 2020 to whatever solo practice he felt like doing. Why would he need a come back when he's already near the end of a career and can just retire rich any time he likes?

He's practiced at the state, federal and appellate levels in both, and did a better job for probably nearly free than Rob Bell did for the residue of Bob Chandler's life savings. He didn't have to do that. He is absolutely about the best lawyer a random retard like Chris could possibly have lucked into under the circumstances.

Chris was facing the most serious charges of his life and didn't even have to plead to anything. Other than having to cool his heels for a few months, he got off completely.

I'm sure they got him Heilberg as some kind of way of making sure they didn't take political flak for kicking the autistic, and it paid off (for Chris if not for society).

You think people hire a criminal defense lawyer to railroad themselves? People facing criminal charges want someone who has tried 100+ jury cases and for the worst of the worst.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

As an aside, Heilberg was an interesting choice for a defence attorney since he's about as popular in the region as a lumpy fart for having defended one of the Beltway Snipers, John Allen Muhammad. Granted, that defence failed and Muhammad deservedly got the hot shot, but just the fact that he was on the team that represented that piece of shit nearly tanked his career. Maybe he saw Chris as his chance at some sort of comeback: he already had a track record of defending sex offenders and perhaps thought that in 2021 the climate was right for being able to check the stunning and brave transwoman incest box to his benefit.

Heilberg's only interactions with Muhammad was for a tax case, it wasn't for the sniper shootings. It was some low level charge regarding taxes or something similar.

I firmly believe that the reason Heilberg stepped up to the plate, and he wasn't assigned to Chris, was that he wanted to create some legacy for "defending poor LGBT+ people", and immediately latched onto Chris's case. People forget, he's a Charlottesville lawyer, and Charlottesville is super heavy into the left wing causes. They have streets named "Black Lives Matter" in that town. Heilberg's legal wranglings for the last decade or longer have been getting druggies and drunks off their charges, and if there's anything lawyers care about more than money is their legacy.

So I think Heilberg definitely stepped it a big pile of tard shit with Chris. He thought he'd represent some trans person unjustly accused of incest, and be a hero of the local LGBT+ community about defending someone who was bullied and downtrodden.

What's funny is you don't see anything related to Chris on his official career history. In fact, his "expert wrangling" only got Chris's charges upgraded to a felony, and that was when he dropped the autism card and got Chris off. That's not exactly something a lawyer would be proud of, or want to be remembered by, but here we are.

I'm wondering what he'd say if he was directly asked about dealing with Chris. Chris himself said that Heilberg barely talked to him towards the end of it, which tells me that he was sick of dealing with Chris's bullshit and just wanted him off his slate as fast as possible.

Chris was facing the most serious charges of his life and didn't even have to plead to anything. Other than having to cool his heels for a few months, he got off completely.

The autism deferral only works if Chris either admitted guilt, or else the court found enough evidence to prove his guilt. Given Chris was looking at a felony grand jury, in addition to his misdemeanor charge being upgraded to a felony proves that Heilberg had no idea what he was doing.

Imagine you have a lawyer defending you, and after two years, your initial misdemeanor charge was upgraded to a felony and was going to a grand jury for potentially more charges. Would you consider this person a "good lawyer"?

 

[The American Hedgehog]

So I think Heilberg definitely stepped it a big pile of tard shit with Chris. He thought he'd represent some trans person unjustly accused of incest, and be a hero of the local LGBT+ community about defending someone who was bullied and downtrodden.

What's funny is you don't see anything related to Chris on his official career history.

I don't think Heilberg is that delusional. Chris was just one of many clients he's represented over the years, there's no need for him to single Chris out.

Given Chris was looking at a felony grand jury, in addition to his misdemeanor charge being upgraded to a felony proves that Heilberg had no idea what he was doing.

The prosecutor's choice in handling the charge doesn't reflect poorly on Heilberg. There was also substantial delay in Chris's case because of needing time to evaluate him and the stint at the mental hospital.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

2200 pages of freakish ego-driven antics?

 

[King Kiwi]

2200 pages of freakish ego-driven antics?

Wait is that how long his manifesto is?

2,200 pages of what?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

2,200 pages of what?

this thread is 2200 pages on the derping of "Honor Roll"

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Heilberg was appointed to defend Chris. I don't get why that's supposed to reflect badly on him, if anything, he was trusted to do his best to represent a client who was going to be challenging. Everyone is entitled to legal representation.

I'd be pretty happy to be represented by Heilberg if I were charged with a crime, regardless of my guilt.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

I don't think Heilberg is that delusional. Chris was just one of many clients he's represented over the years, there's no need for him to single Chris out.

Without power leveling too much, the legal industry has had a huge problem with diversity that's only been addressed in the last few years. LGBT stuff has been first and foremost because it's an easy way to score good boy points. If you're around enough firms, both midsize and large, you'll see various diversity commitment boiler plates about embracing diversity, etc... You'll also hear touted "So and so is a gay lawyer", or else token black attorneys being dragged around to functions so other lawyers or business folks can see how diverse the firm really is.

The prosecutor's choice in handling the charge doesn't reflect poorly on Heilberg. There was also substantial delay in Chris's case because of needing time to evaluate him and the stint at the mental hospital.

Chris was only at the mental hospital for about two months, I would say his stint rotting in jail because the local social services were loathe to touch him was far worse.

However, had Heilberg convinced Chris to plead to the misdemeanor charge, he most likely would have been out in six months with time served. But no, he insisted on a battery of evaluations and tests, which all contributed to the felony upgrade, which I suspect, is because Chris can't keep his mouth shut and most likely incriminated himself without even thinking about. Heilberg could have just told him to sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and he'd be out relatively quickly.

 

[That Guy Who Likes The Chili]

Well, if there's anything he's learned the last 2/3 years it's secrecy.

He may have learned that while he was in the looney bin with his lawyer and then from his enablers.

Who knows what skullduggery or delinquency he's up to undetected.

My opinion is that after the jail saga all of his enablers and watchmen are the ones that have learned absolute secrecy.

They have probably just went underground and transformed him into their own personal cow and are just forever hoarding all the information like the Identity of Flutter, the details of exactly what happened with Barb, what he went through in jail, and much more.

There probably won't be any interesting Chris Chan events until someone from their secret discords defects and spills the beans, or they have some kinda massive schism.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

However, had Heilberg convinced Chris to plead to the misdemeanor charge

I'm not sure Chris ever actually had that option. Wasn't the idea of him being charged with a misdemeanor a theory based on him being in the JDR court for a time? According to the Daily Progress article covering one of the hearings, the case was moved "to JDR for bond", and the article also described his charge as a felony.

So it sounds like the JDR placement was a temporary one for bond consideration, and that the prosecutor was planning to move to the Circuit Court for a felony prosecution in Sept 2021. But because of the continuances, didn't exercise it until the July 2022 hearing.

I don't think Chris's evals affected the prosecutor's decision since no new charges were introduced.

 

[BeatboxBill]

My opinion is that after the jail saga all of his enablers and watchmen are the ones that have learned absolute secrecy.

They have probably just went underground and transformed him into their own personal cow and are just forever hoarding all the information like the Identity of Flutter, the details of exactly what happened with Barb, what he went through in jail, and much more.

There probably won't be any interesting Chris Chan events until someone from their secret discords defects and spills the beans, or they have some kinda massive schism.

Not really, it’s just the Praetor who are hoarding over Chris.

The Watchmen split up after Chris had that fall out with them when WCT got kicked out of the server and shunned from the group.

As for Chris’s other enablers, the only ones that still bother with him Sickness and that Argentina freak Helena.

But even so, Chris has blocked Sockass on everything and wants nothing to do with him and Chris hasn’t spoken to Helena since he was released.

All of the other enablers felt disgusted with him raping Barb and decided to distance themselves out of common sense.

To be honest, they should have just distanced themselves from the beginning; Anybody choosing to be friends with Chris is more retarded than he is.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Sorta related to the above, Chris hasn't played Minecraft in over two months.

I find that a bit weird, especially as Chris does specifically have several buds there which I suspected to be his online handlers.
And no, the only one I can access the Xbox account of is Matthew "T4ll3n47" Dinehart, albeit nothing interesting there. CookSUCKS123 and PMDGrovyle appear to be generics. The latter especially seems to just be a throwaway named after one of the main pokemon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, loads of people naming themselves that.

 

[Ammyterasu]

Sorta related to the above, Chris hasn't played Minecraft in over two months.
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I find that a bit weird, especially as Chris does specifically have several buds there which I suspected to be his online handlers.
And no, the only one I can access the Xbox account of is Matthew "T4ll3n47" Dinehart, albeit nothing interesting there. CookSUCKS123 and PMDGrovyle appear to be generics. The latter especially seems to just be a throwaway named after one of the main pokemon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, loads of people naming themselves that.

Yeah I'm surprised he doesn't play it on the Switch more often, since that's his console of choice. Or maybe he made another Microsoft/X-Box account that's not a dead giveaway of his identity for once.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Yeah I'm surprised he doesn't play it on the Switch more often, since that's his console of choice. Or maybe he made another Microsoft/X-Box account that's not a dead giveaway of his identity for once.

He did say his "friends" are working on it in the Shadow Generations livestream, idk the validity of that, but, I mean, if that was the case, he would have recorded some vids with them, no?

 

[ASeabear8952]

Found on reddit a possible letter Chris sent to Santa, published on The Daily Progress on December 7, 2002
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It seems legit, another user on that newspapers archive site also made a clipping about it previously, but I don't have an account to search the original page.

If real that's probably our last look at Chris' innocence before becoming obsessed with having a girlfriend and starting his Love Quest in 2003. Also interesting the lack of a Cole Smithey mention and him wishing for "Somichu" to be real even back then.

One thing I just noticed was that he mentions a “Brian Savart.” I searched that name on the CWCki and this letter was the only result. I guess that was a male high school friend that Chris never mentioned.

 

[CFC-12]

Surprised nobody posted it on the CWCki yet.
Another ween at 14BC.
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As above, it doesn't seem as if Chris was at the place.
This makes me wonder about why Chris moved the fanmail address to 14BC...

Still with the fucking window air conditioners. Take them out goddamnit. Barb's heating bill must be exorbitant.

 

[Chrus Chundlur]

He thought he'd represent some trans person unjustly accused of incest, and be a hero of the local LGBT+ community about defending someone who was bullied and downtrodden.

I can only imagine his "Oh shit" face when he began to properly research Chris

 

[King Kiwi]

Sorta related to the above, Chris hasn't played Minecraft in over two months.
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I find that a bit weird, especially as Chris does specifically have several buds there which I suspected to be his online handlers.
And no, the only one I can access the Xbox account of is Matthew "T4ll3n47" Dinehart, albeit nothing interesting there. CookSUCKS123 and PMDGrovyle appear to be generics. The latter especially seems to just be a throwaway named after one of the main pokemon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, loads of people naming themselves that.

He's been too busy vandalizing Transformers toys and crushing cabbages in Finland