CN Rumor: Hasbro could be selling D&D to Tencent


by Brandon Lyttle on January 31, 2024

Hasbro may be looking to offload the Dungeons & Dragons (DND, D&D) IP onto a wealthy buyer, in this case it sounds like it may be Tencent.

According to multiple sources (archive), due to financial difficulties the Dungeons & Dragons IP could be up for sale either now or in the near future. Larian Studios, the creator of the massively successful RPG Baldur’s Gate 3 reportedly don’t have the financial resources to make the deal themselves. However Larian allegedly helped bring Hasbro and Tencent together for a possible deal (Tencent has a minority stake in Larian).

It’s unclear just how much of the IP is up for sale, it could just be the video game rights, or it could be the entire D&D identity. Just a month ago we learned Hasbro was laying off over 1,000 employees, signaling the company’s difficulties.

While the Microsoft and Activision deal dominated headlines last year, Tencent has been investing in western game developers at an alarming rate. Currently the company owns Riot Games (League of Legends) and has stakes in companies ranging from Warhammer: Darktide developer Fatshark, to AAA developer Ubisoft, and even Japanese publishers like Visual Arts have been compromised.



Hasbro Seeks to Sell IP “DND” and Has Had Preliminary Contact with Tencent

Speed Daily (archive) exclusively learned that the American toy company Hasbro is seeking to sell its well-known IP “Dungeons & Dragons” (referred to as “DND” below), and Tencent is one of the potential buyers.

At present, the negotiations are still in the early stages and both parties have not yet reached an agreement on the details of the transaction.

According to informed sources, the financial crisis faced by Hasbro is the main reason for considering the sale of DND, and Tencent Investment’s Larian Studios is acting as an intermediary in this transaction. Larian Studios’ game “Baldur’s Gate 3” won the TGA Game of the Year award in 2023 and is considered one of the most successful adaptations of DND. As a result, it was seen as a potential target buyer by Hasbro. However, due to insufficient funds, Larian ultimately introduced this deal to shareholder Tencent.

Hasbro was founded in 1923 and has a history of over a hundred years. In 1935, the company gradually became a world-class toy company with its Monopoly series games. It owns well-known IPs such as Transformers, Dungeons & Dragons, Monopoly, and My Little Pony. However, this century-old enterprise is currently facing a huge crisis due to losses. Its stock price has dropped from a high of $108 in 2019 to $51 (closing data on January 26th).

According to the financial report, as of the third quarter of 2023, Hasbro has been experiencing consecutive losses for four quarters due to its main business of toy sales. The accumulated loss from Q4 2022 to Q3 2023 exceeds $500 million USD, and in Q2 2023, there was even a negative free cash flow situation. According to Forbes reports, in response to the crisis, the company underwent significant layoffs last year, with a total reduction of over 1,900 employees accounting for more than 20%.

Although the company as a whole is in a loss situation, its DND-related IP is a high-quality asset and has achieved considerable success in video game adaptations. Last year, the release of “Baldur’s Gate 3” by Larian Studios was both critically acclaimed and commercially successful. It not only won six TGA awards, including Game of the Year but also generated revenue of $657 million, surpassing the Harry Potter IP adaptation game “Hogwarts Legacy,” making it the most profitable PC exclusive game last year.

The success of “Baldur’s Gate 3” is also reflected in the financial data of Hasbro. The financial report shows that in the third quarter of 2023, driven by “Baldur’s Gate 3” and another Monopoly IP game called “Monopoly Go!”, Hasbro’s electronic gaming and licensing-related business achieved a contrary year-on-year growth of 40%, reaching $423 million.

Outside of electronic games, DND is also one of the most popular tabletop games in Europe and America. It has appeared multiple times in American TV shows such as “The Big Bang Theory” and “Stranger Things”. A large fan base has formed around its related culture, making it a top-tier IP.

A Tencent IEG (Interactive Entertainment Group) insider revealed that Tencent, represented by its overseas business department IEG Global, is in negotiations with the aim of acquiring a series of rights including the adaptation rights for electronic games such as DND.

According to the aforementioned IEG insiders, Tencent currently holds the game adaptation rights for many top-tier IPs. However, due to the licensing model mostly not being a one-time buyout, Tencent not only needs to bear high copyright fees and long-term revenue sharing but also frequently faces restrictions from its partners in terms of development and operation. Previously, the mobile game adaptation of “NieR” developed by Tencent TiMi Studio was unable to be launched even until the project was cancelled.

If this acquisition is successful, it will enable Tencent to gain dominant control over the IP of Dungeons & Dragons, which will largely avoid the aforementioned issues.

Companies in Europe and America attach great importance to the value of intellectual property (IP), while Chinese companies have limited opportunities to acquire top-tier IP from overseas. For Tencent, the opportunity to acquire the Dungeons & Dragons IP from Hasbro due to financial considerations is a rare chance.
 
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How do you manage to make D&D unprofitable?
Do they have a small army of permanently hired danger hairs writing slop no one is buying?
One of the most profitable and influential writers they probably ever had was a Mormon.

Tracy Hickman, who along with Margaret Weiss authored the Dragonlance novels. As a pair they went on to write some independent stuff including the Death Gate Cycle, which I think is an all time great series for fantasy in general
 
Say you never played Baulder's Gate II (3 is still pretty solid gameplay wise too, the dumb shit the press is focusing on is for the the press to focus on) / Neverwinter Nights / ect without saying you never played any of them.
Dark Alliance (2021), Sword Coast Legends, D&D Online, Neverwinter Online, Dragonshard, Demon Stone, Idle Champions, Lords of Waterdeep... I said most suck and you fucking namedrop cult-classic Baldur's Gate and NWN as some gotcha moment?
 
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Dark Alliance (2021), Sword Coast Legends, D&D Online, Neverwinter Online, Dragonshard, Demon Stone, Idle Champions, Lords of Waterdeep... I said most suck and you fucking namedrop cult-classic Baldur's Gate and NWN as some gotcha moment?

Plus Baldur's Gate II came out 22 years ago. If the good games you point to are old enough to drink, your IP is in trouble.
 
This would not be the first time that the owners of D&D experienced some kind of meltdown. The movie, although it was very good, was ill-timed (it had to compete with Super Mario) and didn't make a lot of money. Big Bang Theory is over, Stranger Things is almost over and has lost most of its buzz anyway, and nerd chic overall is basically dead.

Remember that dumb bitch Lorraine Williams and her whole 'don't you dumb nerds want to play Buck Rogers?' thing? Drove Gygax out of his company. Helped, anyway.

If you're not playing 1st/2nd edition where orcs get intelligence penalties and women get strength penalties, what's even the point?
 
Dark Alliance (2021), Sword Coast Legends, D&D Online, Neverwinter Online, Dragonshard, Demon Stone, Idle Champions, Lords of Waterdeep... I said most suck and you fucking namedrop cult-classic Baldur's Gate and NWN as some gotcha moment?

So it's nothingburger since most D&D video game adaptations suck.

Nice moving the goalposts cause I got you faggot.

You didn't say a timeframe, dipshit.

Plus Baldur's Gate II came out 22 years ago. If the good games you point to are old enough to drink, your IP is in trouble.

Not going to say you aren't wrong. BG3's pretty solid, reee'ing about shit that's avoidable enough in it is silly.

But yeah there was a stretch where the actual D&D games were kinda bad on avg, funny that Dragon Age basically just copied the style of it and did okay for a few games.
 
4th edition lasted from 2008-2014(though it was admittedly poorly received and unpopular
For good reason, it was complete dogshit.

It's insane that America is losing bits and pieces of its own culture to fucking China but everyone is clapping like retarded seals because it takes the franchise out of the hands of danger hairs.
>implying a given piece of 'culture' has value of any kind while in the hands of danger hairs
There's your fallacy. Under CHYNA there is at least a microscopic chance that it becomes something worthwhile. Under its current owners, it is worthless and will remain worthless.
 
TBF in D&D 3.5's day no PnP RPG was all that popular and D&D 3.5 was selling the best back then. It's obvious when you look at the sheer plethora of extra materials made for it by WotC and 3rd parties. Them gaining popularity is due to modern nerd stuff like Critical Roll and shit.

Yes, it's the best middle ground between like AD&D and the new garbage.
Most people aren't aware that 3rd and its associates had 3 different versions of the Player's Handbook and DMG, five different Monster Manuals and two Oriental Adventure books; and that's just basic shit. All the paperback class expansions, campaigns, and other associated books put the entire 3rd expanded universe into well over 50 officially printed manuals. Third Edition was fucking massive with the amount of shit they put out for it.
 
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How do you manage to make D&D unprofitable?
Do they have a small army of permanently hired danger hairs writing slop no one is buying?

I don't think it's unprofitable (yet), but Hasbro has been under attack from activist investors who think they're not making enough. Usually when a business divests a business from its portfolio it's one of the following:
1) Company needs money.
2) Under attack by hedge fund investors intent on bleeding the company.
3) Not part of the core business it wants to focus on, sometimes the result of new administration cleaning house from previous diversification attempts.

By the time #1 happens they're circling the drain anyway and delaying the inevitable (recovery can happen, but most stories don't end well) and #2 means the rot has already set in and the company is being dismantled for money.
 
Not going to say you aren't wrong. BG3's pretty solid, reee'ing about shit that's avoidable enough in it is silly.
How about adding, you can kill them.
Here's a sincere and constructive suggestion. The very thing that is often implied but never spelled out: How about simply not adding that shit in the first place?
The genre is called 'western fantasy', niggers, sandniggers and other non-human races imported from real life have no business being involved except maybe as a rare niche foreign visitor or a horde of invaders to be slaughtered by the party.
If you want to make a fantasy game or story with black people, make an afrocentric fantasy setting where everyone is black and has to deal with fantasy creatures based on african folklore.

And HIV-positive faggotry like gays, dykes and trannies cannot exist in a visible frequency outside of a strictly controlled environment where they are actively cultivated, protected and promoted.
They can only exist in the capacity that they do irl right now, because we have a surveillance state that goes after everyone who might dispose of them, because we have an authoritarian federal school system that locks large amounts of children in a room with homosexual teachers (explanation for the obtuse: the teachers molest them and thats why the kids turn out gay later) and a sizable two-digit proportion of people are perpetually high off some medically prescribed (aka state-sanctioned) drug, which probably suppress parts of their brain crucial to healthy reproductive behaviour.
All of these things do not exist in western fantasy settings. So putting HIV-positive faggotry everywhere in them is completely immersion-breaking for anyone with more than one nerve cell in their head.
 
Remember that dumb bitch Lorraine Williams and her whole 'don't you dumb nerds want to play Buck Rogers?' thing? Drove Gygax out of his company. Helped, anyway.
Gygax was already running it into the ground, Lorraine Williams was just crashing at a different angle. I'd love to play a Buck Roger's RPG, though...
 
I think sell to a China based company is par for the course regarding D&D. After all, China already knows to destroy the traditions of old in favor of what is new.
 
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This doesn't make sense unless it's just a video game license. They've already invested in the next version of the tabletop game, baldurs gate 3 is credited with saving their quarter, and while the movie just did ok, it still might be worth a sequel. If they sell of the bulk of dnd now, there would have to be more rot then is visible.

That said, Hasbro's real problem is their Disney licenses are killing them. No one is buying Star Wars, or Marvel. But it doesn't stop there. They finally unloaded that stupid media studio they bought and didn't know what to do with. Their selection of product from internal IPs is often confused (just like at the GI Joe toys). Probably because of the danger hairs running around.

I won't get into a rules argument-for many, the best is the first one they played, and I haven't given 5th the time of day, outside of bg3. What I will say is 3.x saved dnd, but that means fuck all now.
 
Gygax was already running it into the ground, Lorraine Williams was just crashing at a different angle. I'd love to play a Buck Roger's RPG, though...
You can get the SSI Buck Rogers games on abandonware sites.

If it isn't the video games licenses they're selling, it'll be hilarious.

The movie crashed because in the month to a month and a half before the movie released the studio and the cast went on a big binge telling everyone about how great it was to mock and deride the male heroes and how it wasn't for white men.

WOTC's leadership has said plenty of times that White Males need to leave the hobby.

They've gutted the game and turned it into something completely different.

Fuck 'em. I hope 10Cent buys it, prints up all the manuals, and then jams it all up Mike Mearls ass.
 
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