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Before y'all get carried away with your preps, you need to be able to survive a couple of actually predictable scenarios: you can't leave (1) and you HAVE to leave (2). Thesr are things that actually can and do happen in real life.

1. Power goes out for 24 to 48 hours, but your home is relatively safe as long as you stay put and let civil authorities deal with people who actually are hurt / flooded out / evacuated. Maybe it's a hurricane. Maybe it's an earthquake. Maybe Homer Simpson spills his slushy into the reactor console and brings down the entire grid. You also have no water pressure. Do you have what you need to eat and flush your toilet while you wait out the repairs?

2. A hazmat train derails and you need to evacuate Right Fucking Now. No sheltering in place, if you stay and argue with the fire dept / cops / national guard you WILL die. You and 115,000 of your neighbors have 15 minutes to grab whatever you can and GO. Expect to be gone for at least a week.

If you aren't prepared for mundane crap like this, you ain't no prepper, you're just a basement gamer mallninja with more dole money than brains jackin off to doomsday porn.
 
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The US Army technical manuals have some pretty info on various topics and tactics

Posting in depth details how you could rig your storages and yard with IEDs to prevent burglars, thieves and looting joggers make farms legally liable if anyone posted idiots proof guides for it.

I'd rather post agriculture and how to grow your produce, mushrooms etc instead.

Fitness board lacks any guides by and for gymbros starting from how to get your shit together, detail specific detail, meals per day, calorie intake and advice for kiwis who struggle with sugar, sweetener and fat cravings and how to break your cravings for dopamine, adrenaline and endo cannabinoids.

I'm a retard of peace, I want kiwis to feel good about themselves and maintain good health both in mind and spirit.
 
I just bought a new car and have been purchasing a list of things that are always handy to keep in a vehicle (Gloves, jump starter, first aid kit, seatbelt cutter etc.). A lot of it could fall under EDC even though I find EDC to be kinda consoomerist. Would be nice to have a place to discuss this stuff.

Indeed. You have pretty much everything you need, I'd only add a cigarette lighter powered air pump for tires and a fix a flat kit.

Oh and a little AA flashlight with a lithium ion AA battery that lives in the vehicle.

The Bug Out/Emergency Kit thread probably belongs here.

Ohh excellent.

Would the "Buy It For Life" thread belong here? It's already a high quality thread and fits the theme.

Yes although be very careful as threads like that can devolve into insanely expensive consumerism and "LOOK H9W MICH THIS COST MY BIFL PEEN IS BIGGEST" dick sucking contest.

BIFL is anything that's well made and repairable IMHO. Beyond that, it gets fuzzy.
 
Before y'all get carried away with your preps, you need to be able to survive a couple of actually predictable scenarios: you can't leave (1) and you HAVE to leave (2). Thesr are things that actually can and do happen in real life.

1. Power goes out for 24 to 48 hours, but your home is relatively safe as long as you stay put and let civil authorities deal with people who actually are hurt / flooded out / evacuated. Maybe it's a hurricane. Maybe it's an earthquake. Maybe Homer Simpson spills his slushy into the reactor console and brings down the entire grid. You also have no water pressure. Do you have what you need to eat and flush your toilet while you wait out the repairs?

2. A hazmat train derails and you need to evacuate Right Fucking Now. No sheltering in place, if you stay and argue with the fire dept / cops / national guard you WILL die. You and 115,000 of your neighbors have 15 minutes to grab whatever you can and GO. Expect to be gone for at least a week.

If you aren't prepared for mundane crap like this, you ain't no prepper, you're just a basement gamer mallninja with more dole money than brains jackin off to doomsday porn.
That has been discussed to death and back . But what haven't been discussed is long term crisis lasting up to 15 - 20 years . I am talking system just fall apart and something new was Jerry rigged to keep the things going until they fix shit. I am talking something akin to the 90s in Eastern Europe any slav growing up or living through will tell you things can turn wild west pretty fast but with added burden of constant theft and alcoholism. You can prep all you want but when you have to go out of the house to do shit there is a chance some alcoholic dirtbag might clean your house in a second.
Relatives and friends scoping your house for stuff or asking for money and then when told no damaging property as fuck you.

Or look at south Africa power, water , variety of basic services falling and degrading over the long period of time,while the government refuses to let any whites have their own power company and now tries to confiscated shit.

You need community and good neighbors to survive any hardship and that is the hardest. People always go for disasters, wars etc but refuse to see what is right in front of them happening a long term decay, degradation and impoverishment of their country and the consequences of it.
 
Self-Defense
  • Of and related to one's home and land
  • Of one's body and family
I know this sounds stupid, but would it be worth making a basic unarmed self-defense page? I'm not about to powerlevel too hard, but back in my teens I helped run a women's self-defense course with a martial arts gym. it would be basics for getting out of basic holds, how to punch, etc.
The real aim to be to getting out of a situation as opposed to neutralizing someone in a situation.
Would this be worth posting or would this come off as some Mall-Ninja faggot shit? I guess what are the qualifications of "Self-Defence of one's body and family"? before I post some dumb shit lol.
 
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Food Security
  • Canning, Jarring, and Preservation
  • Farming and Growing
  • Garden Building
These books are not necessary "survivalist" books; but I think that they are nutrition related books that everybody should read:
• Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Food by Catherine Shanahan.
• Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price.
They explain in detail everything wrong with modern diets. Deep Nutrition has a bunch of recipes in the end of the book.
 
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Me and a couple of my gay lovers were planning to start a communist alpaca farming compound, anyone have any good tips?
 
Just military in general or studying it for home preparedness? I was wondering if a lessons of Ukraine war thread may be interesting

author of the vid I linked uses this as an example of how not to go about things:

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I’m not sure if anyone would be interested, but I’m very well versed in holistic remedies and plant medicine. My grandfather was a horticulturalist and knew a lot about medicinal plants and he taught me everything he knew. I just lived to a new home and I’m about to set up my own apothecary for personal use/helping out people I know as well as the occasional referral.

I don’t reject modern medicine by any means. I would never tell someone to replace their statins or chemotherapy with holistic medicine, but I do think it’s is incredible supplementation to modern medicine, as well as saving your ass in a situation where modern medicine isn’t available.

I have remedies for common ailments/injuries, as well as some preventative recipes, skincare, burn relief, hygiene, and I can also give plenty of advice on how to grow your own plants :)

On top of that, I sew, knit and crochet. All 3 are invaluable skills to have in a disaster situation. You can make clothes, hats, gloves, blankets, tents, socks, pouches and purses, baskets and so on. If anyone is interested in those, I would be glad to refer you to some of the better tutorials and books so you don’t have to wade through the bullshit yourself.

I will say before I get any questions: the best and most golden advice I can give you for growing plants is to do research on where they originally grew before people migrated and started to grow them in different climates. A good example of why you should do this is succulents and cacti. 99% of people who kill them do so by overwatering. They grow in deserts and on mountainsides that get virtually no precipitation. I go months without watering mine and they thrive. I make sure I always research humidity levels, annual rainfall and soil composition before I grow anything new. Succulents and cacti require no humidity, very little water and very chunky soil full of drainage. That means I use terra cotta pots with lots of chunky soil mix made of bark, pumice, and pearlite. Their natural medium is also virtually devoid of fertilizers so I almost never feed them artificially.

If you follow this advice and apply it to whatever you’re growing, your plants will never die.

Also, LEARN TO PROPAGATE. I can go into depth with that if anyone is interested.
 
Does gunsmithing count?
I'm an aspiring™️ large ordinance gunsmith, with a few projects in the background (chaff grenades, light gas cannons, shaped charges).
Relatively recently, i've been putting some strain on my lathe by making my first actual "gun", a 20mm high pressure cannon using both titanium and grade IV steel specializing in high pressures (titanium barrel outer with 4mm thick high P steel inner, to maximize pressure to weight ratio).
Using a few simulations, a dozen books citing ordonance, my projectile should be rated to penetrate, as a full caliber penetrator, about 65mm of RHA, or 80 with a sabot projectile. while the full assembly weighs about 29lb (pumped enough to be able to wield it semi-comfortably)

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In short, i'm making a 20mm robinson "rifle", with all the recent tech on hand, Including the use of Tullomer 3d filament (4x better than ABS, basically 3d-printed kevlar at $100 per kg)
To prevent concussions or worse, i've been consorting with a few nerds to have 3, varying diameter inertia wheels that catches on the recoiling assembly to reduce that terrible recoil by about 63% before any spring tries to cushion the blow that's inevitably gonna slam into my arms.
I'd say "wish me luck" but frankly i'll need a lot more than that if i reach testing phase (last lathe operation failed so horribly i'm down about 3k in titanium).
 
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Does gunsmithing count?
I'm an aspiring™️ large ordinance gunsmith, with a few projects in the background (chaff grenades, light gas cannons, shaped charges).
Relatively recently, i've been putting some strain on my lathe by making my first actual "gun", a 20mm high pressure cannon using both titanium and grade IV steel specializing in high pressures (titanium barrel outer with 4mm thick high P steel inner, to maximize pressure to weight ratio).
Using a few simulations, a dozen books citing ordonance, my projectile should be rated to penetrate, as a full caliber penetrator, about 65mm of RHA, or 80 with a sabot projectile. while the full assembly weighs about 29lb (pumped enough to be able to wield it semi-comfortably)

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In short, i'm making a 20mm robinson "rifle", with all the recent tech on hand, Including the use of Tullomer 3d filament (4x better than ABS, basically 3d-printed kevlar at $100 per kg)
To prevent concussions or worse, i've been consorting with a few nerds to have 3, varying diameter inertia wheels that catches on the recoiling assembly to reduce that terrible recoil by about 63% before any spring tries to cushion the blow that's inevitably gonna slam into my arms.
I'd say "wish me luck" but frankly i'll need a lot more than that if i reach testing phase (last lathe operation failed so horribly i'm down about 3k in titanium).
I really wanna see that, it sounds cool. Good luck
 
Awesome. Might post about my discoveries in edible weeds and herbs, I don't really have anyone that would appreciate the topics.
Foraging autism is without a doubt the coolest kind of autism.

Would anyone be interested in a scrap metal recovery thread? Like where/how to get scrap and how to separate and clean it for maximum value. When times have gotten tough in the past I’ve kept my family fed by breaking down old machinery for scrap.
 
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