SJW Art and Extremes

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sometimes I wonder myself,everytime I see a vaguely gay pairings but one of them had that pre op scar,are they doing it cuz they hate cis gay male or just for having an extra point in progressiveness?[/QUOTE]

1. are men cis, being cis is transphobic
2. do not want to be with women, they are probably misogynist
3. they are men! are obviously part of patriarchy.
4. and well, being gay isn't so bad anymore, now it's being trans because there's nothing more oppressed than trans people.
 
I wonder if that's because the SJW circles on Tumblr have this weird distaste for visual novel romance games as a genre. I don't know if it's because those games are designed to end in the dreaded hetero romance, or because those games are designed with the player character hooking up with another character rather than shipping their preferred "soft gay bois," or because romance can't be separated from that game genre, but for whatever reason SJW crowds really dislike those breed of games (though lets face it they hate all games) but not enough to REEE over them the way they do with other genres.

The closest a romance dating sim got to gaining an SJW following was Dream Daddy... and I'm sure everyone remembers how that turned out.
I saw something a while back (I wanna say on tumblr) of this program that lets you make visual novels yourself. If they put forth a little effort they could make what they want themselves, but who are we kidding? This is tumblr we’re talking about.
 
As it stands, SU is partially animated in the States and finish in South Korea, which is expensive and takes jobs away from American animators.

Actually, having the animation done in South Korea is less expensive than doing it domestically. Why do you think they've been doing it for years?
 
I mean... conceptually it's an interesting story, and it's neat to have a kid show with gay major characters.

Most of the problems with the show itself are in the execution. The pilot for Steven Universe looked so much better, with an art style that's somewhere between Regular Show and Superjail. In syndication, the interesting art style of the pilot got watered way down, likely because of animation expenses.

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Imagine how much shorter this thread would be if the Tumblrinas were copying that art style instead.

Also, the pilot doesn't have any of the off-model problems I described before. There definitely was a lot of wasted potential with this show between the pitch and syndication.
I have a huge hate boner for SU but I actually really like the pilot because it's everything that regular SU isn't. Mainly the plot is decent and the character designs don't make me wanna kill myself all the time.
 
I have a huge hate boner for SU but I actually really like the pilot because it's everything that regular SU isn't. Mainly the plot is decent and the character designs don't make me wanna kill myself all the time.

Wow... I honestly hated how poorly paced and written (in terms of conflicts and stories worth a damn...) the show ultimately is, but yeah - like I said, I've seen better art-styles in action than anything SU could ever throw at anyone and even fucking remotely call a job well done that isn't pilot-related...

Back on subject, however... Is anyone from Thor: Ragnarok getting this treatment? That movie's been out for a while, now, and I'm not sure if Tumblrfucks haven't ruined it with their "fan art" of it by now.

Unfortunately, searching Thor: Ragnarok does reveal at least one or two incest moments between Thor and Loki, so it's too late to assume different.
 
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Steven Universe also encourages this laziness by not having proper character drawing guides or good storyboards so you have stuff where the characters look like they're eight or super short.

You know, as shitty a person as John Kricfalusi is, the dude knows how to go off-model and make it look good. If you're gonna go off-model in an animation, make it intentional.

Steven Universe is a great example of how not to go off model. Characters are wildly inconsistently drawn, most notably Peridot, whose height and hair fluctuate between each episode she's in. Either stay on-model or go off it as an intentional stylistic choice. The issue mainly seems to stem from a lack of discipline with boarders. It shouldn't be so easy to tell which artist boarded an episode- it's a cartoon, not a showcase of everybody's styles. Pick a fucking lead artist and have the rest of the boarders and animators trained in their style.

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Imagine how bizarre it would be ATLA, BTAS or even Gravity Falls was animated this inconsistently. The lack of oversight indicates to me that SU is run by a bunch of hippies with no sense of discipline.

This remind me of Pizza Party Podcast (sue me) when they have Ian Jones-Quartey (creator of OkKo and work in SU) as a guest. They discussed about the off-model as well and Ian answer it the most Tumblr excuse. It irked me so many ways. He basically said, being off-model is part of his style. He used 'it's muh style' excuse. Even Pan (and Nolan I believed as well) disagree him about that.

Heck, I listen to animation podcast, Cartoon Lampoon, which all three speakers are all animators for the industry, specifically television animation. One of said, if someone in general audience with no experience in animation noticed animation errors, that's bad thing.
 
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Ah yes Japan is known for having a lot of racial diversity especially in their idol groups
Also if they wanted to redesign Aqours they could have at least made Ruby and Dia look more alike instead of randomly assigning each girl a body type and a skin color...
The designs aren't that bad in themselves (except for Maru who gets eyebrows as thick as her eyes), but they really don't match the "cutesy school idol" vibe Love Live is about.
 
I hate to almost fucking ask... But has anyone tried to do this BS with Star Vs. The Forces of Evil, like they have Steven Universe? If so, that's admittedly just as sad, knowing there are far better styles out there to try and learn than either (at least, IMHO - but SU's art-style sucking ass is clear-as-day FACT, however.).
 
One thing I can say I laugh at are SJWish/Tumblr artist that actually try to start 'DO NOT FOLLOW' lists. I've seen many on Tumblr (which quickly get taken down) but I have to comment whenever I see these least, it's usually the same people. Shadman, Gashi, Hot Diggity Demon, ect. And yes the OP's art is just as cliche as you can expect. Again, I think it's the whole 'this art is better because it is purer and free from all those tiddies and asses plus I list every condition and sexuality my idealized self portrait, I mean, ORIGINAL CHARACTER, has' mentality.
 

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You know, as shitty a person as John Kricfalusi is, the dude knows how to go off-model and make it look good. If you're gonna go off-model in an animation, make it intentional.

Steven Universe is a great example of how not to go off model. Characters are wildly inconsistently drawn, most notably Peridot, whose height and hair fluctuate between each episode she's in. Either stay on-model or go off it as an intentional stylistic choice. The issue mainly seems to stem from a lack of discipline with boarders. It shouldn't be so easy to tell which artist boarded an episode- it's a cartoon, not a showcase of everybody's styles. Pick a fucking lead artist and have the rest of the boarders and animators trained in their style.

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Imagine how bizarre it would be ATLA, BTAS or even Gravity Falls was animated this inconsistently. The lack of oversight indicates to me that SU is run by a bunch of hippies with no sense of discipline.

This has always been one of the things that has irked me with SU. Coming from a kid who grew up in the 80s where we had shows that had MULTIPLE FUCK-UPS in animation, there's just something about this that takes the cake, probally because how the show as touted as being so revolutionry yet can't keep itself in check, whether with the art or the story. I mean, we've been talking about the LOOK of SU and shows/comics LIKE IT but I'm certain a forum based on the shittiness of the STORY would be twice as long now. (okay, maybe NOT but it would be entertaining to riff on how this series can't keep up with its own continuity)

Tumblrinas jerking eachother off about how great the artwork in Steven Universe is adds to the problem. Its resulted in a wave of college students who think that their weird, block-y recolors of Amethyst and Jasper are good character design because "body diversity!1!11!". Things like anatomy, composition, technique, and originality get shunted down to near non-importance.

This is a big part of why Tumblr art styles are so samey. People put the cart before the horse by trying to create a Calarts-y "style" for themselves before actually learning anatomy. The overemphasis on having "muh style1!1!!1" in internet art circles has had a major negative effect on the way this generation views art. In reality, a style is something you're supposed to develop naturally as you become educated in art, not something you copy off of a shitty tv show as a teenager and use as a means to deflect critism on shit anatomy.

Have this for a thought; remember those How to Draw Cartoon and Anime books? I lived on those as a kid but even then, EVEN THEN, I noticed how WONKY and bad the final art was in those books and forever I could not figure out why. My work isn't perfect, I will admit that now, but a few days ago I suddenly realized WHY those guides, while offering some decent advice in things, still had really weird looking anime characters and cartoons.

It was because it was like they were taking bits and pieces from 'general anime look' and just slapping it together and the result wasn't something that didn't look as polished as a lot of professionals many artist look up to. You mentioned style; I feel style IS important so we can actually DIFFERENTIATE work and creators but the SJW/Tumblr 'style' doesn't do that because they're so blinded to LOOK EXACTLY LIKE whatever is the flavor of the month they just take the 'basic' look and keep doing that and doing that without developing anything of their own along the way.

The reason why those American anime guides look like shit (other than the person not being able to draw) was because they followed every CLICHE of anime and just slapped it on there without considering that even anime/manga styles cycle not just through artist but through the decades. Akira Toriyama's work doesn't look the same as Rumiko Takahashi's as her work doesn't look like Yuji Iwahara as his work doesn't look like Gosho Aoyama and even THEIR work has changed over the years as they continued to work and draw. Look at Toriyama from the start of his career and NOW. He's kept some themes that make his art his own but you can see where it has changed.

SJW art just adheres more to an ideal and a lot of rules that they act like you can't break otherwise your work is problematic. You really aren't allowed to experiment and exaggerate because they have this idea that everything has to be 'realistic' yet their work often results in lumpy looking characters with EXTREMELY unrealistic looks. There is nothing realistic about SJW art other than them saying that because they draw 'lips' or a character a little heavier it is 'real' and therefor BETTER.

IT'S NOT.

Even manga/anime has a WIDER range of looks while sticking to certain structures that have changed over the years. Hell, Western animation does as well but where SJW fails at is just as I and a lot of people have mentioned; they PURPOSELY set up rules and actively DISCOURAGE going outside the norm and pushing boundaries, one of the battles cries Progressives constantly scream. Anything that doesn't fall in that line of being safe isn't seen as good, inoffensive art.

That and they want the bar lowered so their work can be praised despite it being of shit tier without going through the effort of experimenting but OH WELL.
 
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