Sri Lanka Collapse

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Ow The Edge said:
Also their tourism industry, the primary source of foreign currency, was utterly demolished by the terrorist attacks on churches followed by the coof.
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I hope nobody tells /pol/ that they collapsed an entire country. Those Easter church attacks were reprisals for Breton Tarrant shooting up the NZ Mosque.
 
immigrant32 said:
good. nations that depend on import should suffer. to be dependent on import - this idea was invented by geezers from colleges.
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Funny thing is they weren't even reliant on imports for food - or at least they weren't, until environmentalist NGOs bribed their politicians into introducing a ban on chemical fertilizers, causing their food production to drop by over 30%.
 
Unyielding Stupidity said:
Funny thing is they weren't even reliant on imports for food - or at least they weren't, until environmentalist NGOs bribed their politicians into introducing a ban on chemical fertilizers, causing their food production to drop by over 30%.
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Hopefully they'll learn not to sabotage their food production again.
 
Sri Lanka was already headed towards financial disaster before the ban of chemical fertilizers. Their president had been blowing through their foreign currency reserves artificially pumping up the Sri Lankan rupee. The chemical fertilizer ban was him trying to avoid spending the remaining foreign reserves while having a "good" public-facing reason for it. Obviously this was really fucking stupid because the vastly lower ag production meant they had to spend foreign reserves importing food while not being able to make anything from food/tea exports. He also cut taxes as a populist measure when their government needed tax revenue more than ever because there was practically no tourism revenue coming in.

Basically their president is a corrupt retard that they've been trying to get to resign since April.
 
Kane Lives said:
If Sri Lanka does truly collapse, I honestly can see a situation where India de facto annexes the island under the guise of restoring peace and order. Don't get me wrong, it won't be altruism on the part of India, but to keep the horde of starving refugees from flooding the mainland.
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I’m surprised they didn’t try to do that after decolonization, especially since they essentially annexed tons of princely states and some independent states like Sikkim.

I think there is a non-zero chance of this happening especially if China formally moves in, but I see this triggering escalations in the Himalayas and with Pakistan.
 
beautiful person said:
Sri Lanka was already headed towards financial disaster before the ban of chemical fertilizers. Their president had been blowing through their foreign currency reserves artificially pumping up the Sri Lankan rupee. The chemical fertilizer ban was him trying to avoid spending the remaining foreign reserves while having a "good" public-facing reason for it. Obviously this was really fucking stupid because the vastly lower ag production meant they had to spend foreign reserves importing food while not being able to make anything from food/tea exports. He also cut taxes as a populist measure when their government needed tax revenue more than ever because there was practically no tourism revenue coming in.

Basically their president is a corrupt retard that they've been trying to get to resign since April.
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So it's coincidence that the policy of using animal shit as a complete replacement for chemical fertilizers is also being pushed hard in places like Holland? I'm calling BS on that. Not that their President wasn't a corrupt piece of shit but rather he was taking bribes from western NGOs to enact a change that has led to total disaster. Sri Lanka would have scraped by if they'd still grew enough to feed themselves and making some foreign currency by exporting any surplus. Now they're looking at mass starvation in a global economy that has very limited ability to help them.

It seems pretty much confirmed that the conspiratards were right and we're about to experience a mass die off.
 
kidatari said:
/pol has an interesting theory about the collapse

"I finally got to the bottom of the Sri Lanka crisis.
This is where it started - their government took Greta seriously, implemented policies that halved agricultural production, and it spiraled from there.
Sri Lanka has collapsed.
The results of socialism + MMT + eco fanaticism + ESG approved policies."

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exactly but there's an important missing piece


Prince Charles is the most public face of a religious/philosophical movement that ties together rich aristocratic or aristocratic-wannabe Europeans and Sri Lanka (also Egypt and Iran)


The philosophy is a hodgepodge of poorly understood regurgitated neo-platonism and continuations of slapfights Blavatsky had with various people. It very easily syncretizes with neo-Malthusianism and gives ideological justification for anti-green revolution.


One of the most important Traditionalist writers, Ananda Coomaraswamy, is Sri Lankan (although it wasn't called that then). Many important Traditionalists spent a lot of time there; there's an important publisher, the Sri Lanka Institute of Traditional Studies, but I guess they hate the modern world so much they don't even have a website.

I am very certain this is exactly why things got so bad so fast in Sri Lanka.

 
barleyrugsoap said:
that's not how islands work
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I mean in the big picture, that's literally been the case until very, very recently. If you were born on an island like Sri Lanka, you died on Sri Lanka. If you wanted to be somewhere else you could expend significant resources and take a huge risk to make it somewhere else. We're lucky to live in an age that allows enough variation to stop them from becoming cronenbergs, even the science supports this. (relatively wholesome 1997 science, not 2022 ZOG'd "science")
 
BelUwUga said:
I mean in the big picture, that's literally been the case until very, very recently. If you were born on an island like Sri Lanka, you died on Sri Lanka. If you wanted to be somewhere else you could expend significant resources and take a huge risk to make it somewhere else. We're lucky to live in an age that allows enough variation to stop them from becoming cronenbergs, even the science supports this. (relatively wholesome 1997 science, not 2022 ZOG'd "science")
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do you think boats just got invented
 
barleyrugsoap said:
do you think boats just got invented
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How could I forget naval superpower and race of explorers: Sri Lankans? It's in their anthem:
Rule Sri Lankaaaaaa.... Sri Lanka rules the waves....
Oh wait. I didn't say they were living in absolute genetic isolation. I pointed out the very real, and documented fact that island peoples like that are by their nature going to be more inbred. Taking objective fact like that personally makes me think I struck a nerve. If you really wanna go there just ask me about Hawaii and Mormons. Never mind the fact that we're talking about a "nation" that has just opted-in to returning to the stoneage. I'm fairly confident there's backwaters of that backwater where a seaworthy boat literally hasn't been invented.
 
Boats don’t bring that much genetic diversity. Sri Lanka is 1400+ miles from the mainland.

Sri Lanka also has the problem of cousin marriages. One study showed a national rate of 7.4% for cousin marriages. It varied by ethic group, from 3.2-22.4%.


Inbreeding even occurs on islands closer to mainlands. There are islands in the Chesapeake Bay where some genetic problems are more common due to this.

The Chesapeake Islands are much easier to get to and the people have been there less time, and it still managed to happen. There’s a genetic disease named after Tangier Island. While Sri Lanka is larger, most people likely didn’t go far from their ancestral homes until trains/cars became widespread.
 
borsabil said:
So it's coincidence that the policy of using animal shit as a complete replacement for chemical fertilizers is also being pushed hard in places like Holland? I'm calling BS on that. Not that their President wasn't a corrupt piece of shit but rather he was taking bribes from western NGOs to enact a change that has led to total disaster. Sri Lanka would have scraped by if they'd still grew enough to feed themselves and making some foreign currency by exporting any surplus. Now they're looking at mass starvation in a global economy that has very limited ability to help them.

It seems pretty much confirmed that the conspiratards were right and we're about to experience a mass die off.
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Not a coincidence, more of an excuse. I don't think he thought going 100% organic was going to do anything good for the country, but he was looking for an opportunity to save money while saying he was doing something good. If he was getting bribes, then more reason for him to do it that wasn't an actual belief in organic farming.

They probably would've scraped by with food, but they were still running out of money to import fuel and medicine, which aside from food, are the two main issues they're facing. Of course, one of their main exports is tea, so the fertilizer ban also basically eliminated that source of revenue.

I guess my point is that this all wasn't caused by "organic farming", but it was exasperated by it. They might've been able to scrape through the financial mismanagement if they hadn't banned chemical fertilizers, but they probably could've also survived this failed experiment if the financial mismanagement wasn't there in the first place.
 
Sri Lanka has always been a dump and financial disaster due to the corruption that runs deep in their politics, but I didn't expect it to just full on collapse in on itself. Even if China/India decides to swoop in and try to take a chunk for themselves, I doubt they're going to get much out of it just due to the massive amount of debt the current president has accumulated that they now have to saddle.
 
Gina Gillotti said:
Sri Lanka (the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, Ceylon) is a very interesting place.

It is one of the most beautiful countries in the world, has incredible diversity of terrain, flora, fauna and also cultures to which the LTTE insurgency was actually more of an exception proving the role that they lived in relative harmony at least to many places, although their Muslims eventually became militant enough to do the Easter Church attack and smaller ones, that is a relatively late development. Like so many places it got fucked up by the British and then fucked up by a vengeful majority ethnoreligious group that had been denied a place of priority during the colonial period. This featured things like radically militant Buddhist monks beating the shit out of people with sticks and that was at the very beginning, it only got worse. India intervened several times including with the IPKF in the late 80s which lead to the assassination of Rajiv Ghandi which buck broke their spirit to keep on intervening.

The Tamils of Tamil Eelam had a host of the legitimate complaints but were also the people that invented not just the suicide bomber but the female suicide bomber. They'd perfected the tactic before the Palestinians even picked it up, their leader Prabakharan was a vicious and brilliant individual with a cult of personality and it took great brutality to put him and his insurgency down. All of the unpleasantness never really made much news in the US and his great fundraising source was in the Tamil diaspora in Canada, much as the IRA's was among Irish-Americans.

Even before the end of the war, Eastern and Western countries have been involved in neo-colonial "free market" ventures and Chinese power is on the ascent. Pajeet and Chang may very well start making noises at each other if shit continues to get real and Chinese "influence" is a far enough cry from being a Chinese vassal state which is also something that is considerably less acceptable to powers that be in the USA than it is in some Black African country that most Americans are equally incapable of finding on a map.
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The powers that be don't mind if china gobbles up Nigeria and east Africa. But the powers that be don't want the sino niggers getting to close to the poos especially when the poos have almost as many nukes as chang.
beautiful person said:
Sri Lanka was already headed towards financial disaster before the ban of chemical fertilizers. Their president had been blowing through their foreign currency reserves artificially pumping up the Sri Lankan rupee. The chemical fertilizer ban was him trying to avoid spending the remaining foreign reserves while having a "good" public-facing reason for it. Obviously this was really fucking stupid because the vastly lower ag production meant they had to spend foreign reserves importing food while not being able to make anything from food/tea exports. He also cut taxes as a populist measure when their government needed tax revenue more than ever because there was practically no tourism revenue coming in.

Basically their president is a corrupt retard that they've been trying to get to resign since April.
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I mean to put it in a nutshell. Sri lanka was fine as long as it had tourism and some domestic agriculture to keep it together. But between the terrorism, drop in tourism, and finally the Ban in fertilizers that triggered the country to have a full collaose. Add in the fact
barleyrugsoap said:
exactly but there's an important missing piece


Prince Charles is the most public face of a religious/philosophical movement that ties together rich aristocratic or aristocratic-wannabe Europeans and Sri Lanka (also Egypt and Iran)


The philosophy is a hodgepodge of poorly understood regurgitated neo-platonism and continuations of slapfights Blavatsky had with various people. It very easily syncretizes with neo-Malthusianism and gives ideological justification for anti-green revolution.


One of the most important Traditionalist writers, Ananda Coomaraswamy, is Sri Lankan (although it wasn't called that then). Many important Traditionalists spent a lot of time there; there's an important publisher, the Sri Lanka Institute of Traditional Studies, but I guess they hate the modern world so much they don't even have a website.

I am very certain this is exactly why things got so bad so fast in Sri Lanka.

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Things really got so bad so fast because the economy was already mismanaged but kept afloat through tea prices and tourism. With 2020 shutting down supply chains and killing tourism
 
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