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It was still incredibly moronic for her to not think of changing the passwords to the ship after Seska's defection.
Unfortunately, she gave the responsibility to Harry, who proceeded to completely flake out when the computer started talking to him, because he's a permavirgin who doesn't know how to have a conversation with anything that sounds female.
 
Picard never had a bunch of ooga booga quasi primitives steal his ship
The Enterprise got boosted by Tim Russ and then again by a couple of knuckle draggers but then again Picard basically hijacks the ship back by himself. So I guess it all kind of evens out.

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You’re right though, VOY is this weird Twilight Zone workplace where every sign is screaming “Janeway is in over her head, do not put her in charge of a canoe, let alone a starship.” But somehow there’s no dissent, the only people who ever doubt Janeway are Chakotay (who thinks literally everything is “too risky”), Seven, and of course Seska. (Seven is extremely funny because she makes her case like one of those Wolfenstein baddies who lectures about how VOY is not committing enough extrajudicial mayhem.)

Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.

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Jeffery Combs is as awesome as always.
I have a theory regarding this, I think there is a direct correlation between the amount of Jeffrey Combs you have in a Trek series and how good it is overall.

DS9 - Lots of Combs in multiple roles, probably the best series post TNG
VOY - Barely any Combs, I think he only shows up once, my least favorite OG Trek series
ENT - Lots of Combs again! They were even going to make him a full time cast member if they had been given another season, much better than Voy, not quite as good as DS9
STD - No Combs, the audio/visual equivalent of getting your wisdom teeth extracted
SNW - No Combs, never seen it but it's NuTrek so I don't have to
 
I agree, to me it was pretty clear they were going to make Shran into Archer's XO in the 5th season to kinda go for the Kirk-Spock thing but the studio step in and fucked it all up.t

A 5th season of what the writers planned would have been something I'd want to see for sure
 
The Enterprise got boosted by Tim Russ and then again by a couple of knuckle draggers but then again Picard basically hijacks the ship back by himself. So I guess it all kind of evens out.

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You’re right though, VOY is this weird Twilight Zone workplace where every sign is screaming “Janeway is in over her head, do not put her in charge of a canoe, let alone a starship.” But somehow there’s no dissent, the only people who ever doubt Janeway are Chakotay (who thinks literally everything is “too risky”), Seven, and of course Seska. (Seven is extremely funny because she makes her case like one of those Wolfenstein baddies who lectures about how VOY is not committing enough extrajudicial mayhem.)

Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.

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The fact the whole crew didn't mutiny and toss her out the airlock when she refused a deus ex machina to get home.
 
I agree, to me it was pretty clear they were going to make Shran into Archer's XO in the 5th season to kinda go for the Kirk-Spock thing but the studio step in and fucked it all up.t

A 5th season of what the writers planned would have been something I'd want to see for sure
Fifth season was supposedly when the Earth/Federation-Romulan war was intended to start. Which was a huge deal as that war got the Federation to form in the first place. Or at least seal the deal and formalized the Federation.
Older Star Trek fans had already been screwed out of the Earth-Klingon War that started after first contact between the two went completely pear shaped with ENT changing their first contact.
 
Star Trek fans had already been screwed out of the Earth-Klingon War that started after first contact between the two went completely pear shaped with ENT changing their first contact.
As much as we shit on Hollywood for feeding off our 20-year-old nostalgia, the truth is Star Trek was doing it first.

If you remember ENT, the promo material had that glossy photo of Klaang the Klingon (what a name) angrily emerging from a cornfield, and this was supposed to feel like the big kickoff to a prequel saga. And I’m just sitting there in my room, leafing through the TV Guide, thinking, Who the fuck cares.

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I mean, I’m predisposed to see the negative in everything, but I don’t think anyone was convinced this was a strong pilot. The series never really found its footing after that opening shot.
 
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Unfortunately, she gave the responsibility to Harry, who proceeded to completely flake out when the computer started talking to him, because he's a permavirgin who doesn't know how to have a conversation with anything that sounds female.
Poor, dumb Harry.
The Enterprise got boosted by Tim Russ and then again by a couple of knuckle draggers but then again Picard basically hijacks the ship back by himself. So I guess it all kind of evens out.
"Come out to the Remmler Array. We'll have a few laughs..."
the only people who ever doubt Janeway are Chakotay (who thinks literally everything is “too risky”)
I never got why they made Chakotay such a pansy. He's supposed to be a former terrorist who fought for land, yet there's an entire episode about him telling a young Kazon that land isn't worth fighting for.
Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.

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Because who cares about Pike or Kirk?
The fact the whole crew didn't mutiny and toss her out the airlock when she refused a deus ex machina to get home.
I personally loved the episode that revealed Tuvok created a training program on the Holodeck to help the crew prepare for a potential Maquis rebellion, only to give up halfway through when he realized nobody argued with each other after the first season.
 
Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.
>man saves the entire gamma quadrant from the Dominion and/or saves Earth from getting raped by time-traveling borg/romulans/villain of the week
>crickets
>maybe becomes an admiral but is miserable and still gets zero respect

>woman gets lost for 10 years
>most decorated officer in the history of the Federation and everyone blows sunshine up her ass


Man even in the future this shit still happens.
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Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.
She was obviously promoted out of the way.

I have a theory regarding this, I think there is a direct correlation between the amount of Jeffrey Combs you have in a Trek series and how good it is overall.

DS9 - Lots of Combs in multiple roles, probably the best series post TNG
VOY - Barely any Combs, I think he only shows up once, my least favorite OG Trek series
ENT - Lots of Combs again! They were even going to make him a full time cast member if they had been given another season, much better than Voy, not quite as good as DS9
STD - No Combs, the audio/visual equivalent of getting your wisdom teeth extracted
SNW - No Combs, never seen it but it's NuTrek so I don't have to
Combs played an evil super computer in a couple of episodes of Lower Decks. It's generally considered one of the better post-enterprise series.
 
Being an admiral is close to a desk job. That's a way for them to not give her a starship again without actually saying it. Her job now is telling other captains what to do. She's a glorified secretary and maybe it's for the best.
 
Worse, they didn't stop her from going back in time because she didn't get the ending she wanted.
Still cracks me up how the cast is more interesting in the fake timelines that get erased than they ever are in the show proper. There's this bit with Tuvok in the future turning into a mad scribe in the asylum, like Benny from DS9 on crack!

Honestly I recommend all the episodes where Tuvok goes completely nuts, it’s an upgrade over the usual yawnsome Tuvok.

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She was obviously promoted out of the way.


Combs played an evil super computer in a couple of episodes of Lower Decks. It's generally considered one of the better post-enterprise series.

Damn it, now I need to watch Lower Decks, I do love me some Combs.

Miles is too useful to be promoted too far up. He should be the Federation version of USMC Marine Gunner and kept down low enough to keep the peons and grunts focused on winning wars.

Speaking of Lower Decks, O’Brien gets a shout out. In the end, he is validated by history.

 
Worse, they didn't stop her from going back in time because she didn't get the ending she wanted.
They all do that. In fact the Janeway who returned through the Borg transwarp hub was the beneficiary of time-traveling Admiral Janeway deus ex machina-ing herself.
You’re right though, VOY is this weird Twilight Zone workplace where every sign is screaming “Janeway is in over her head, do not put her in charge of a canoe, let alone a starship.”
I've never seen Janeway do anything I haven't seen other captains do. They risk blowing the ship up or blowing up somebody else's ship up all the time. She's just as fanatically leave no one behind as any of them. The Borg couldn't be invincible forever, and I'm glad Voyager gets some post-finale canon nods in Picard.
But somehow there’s no dissent, the only people who ever doubt Janeway are Chakotay (who thinks literally everything is “too risky”), Seven, and of course Seska.
Like his actor, Chakotay is a sleepy Mexican pretending to be Native American. Seska was pointless so she was written out.
Seven is extremely funny because she makes her case like one of those Wolfenstein baddies who lectures about how VOY is not committing enough extrajudicial mayhem.
Seven is a pragmatist. "Cheating is more efficient."
Instead they treat her like she’s Starfleet’s LeBron, and by the finale they call her the most decorated officer in the history of the Federation, which even in the ’90s sounded like a joke.
Trek always bloviates about its diversity.
 
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