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I've seen maybe 4 of the same episodes since it's been on air, all I can say is the voice acting fucking sucks, but the sow didnt seem terrible.
But I've just recently heard of the fan base of the show and how they've turned the creators against said fan base, which makes me cringe when I see the show now.
But I've just recently heard of the fan base of the show and how they've turned the creators against said fan base, which makes me cringe when I see the show now.
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The Japanese pretending they dindu nuffin' wrong during World War II? Shocker.
I still think it's a ratings gimmick.
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Well it's a shitty ratings gimmick, seeing as they do it with all their shows. Feels like they want to lose ratings.
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Ehh. They have been doing it for years now. If they were gonna lose ratings over it, they would have a looooooooooong time ago. The thing is that they have a self renewing viewer base, and with the adults that watch it along with their kids, and the adult swim base, they aren't really gonna have to worry about a huge drop in ratings any time soon.
The Steven Universe show started out pretty awesome, but it seemed like the moment the Tumblrverse snatched it up, Sugar started to pander to them to bring her view base age up, and to bring her higher ratings. The SU of now is nothing like it started out as. Which is kinda sad.
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The internet does strange things to shows. But even without the Tumblr fanbase, Sugar was going to pander to some group sooner or later. It just so happened that it was the SJW group, and that Sugar and several of the other staff members are either bisexual or fall into the stereotypical "non-binary" BS cliche. So why not pander the living shit out of them and the people who like memes and/or anime.
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Because then you end up with a garbage fanbase who turns everyone else off, they try to get your other fans to commit suicide, and people just long for your shitty show to be cancelled.
Also no kids watch it, but then they never did.
The SU fanbase makes bronies look nice and well adjusted by comparison.
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I was bored today so I decided to re-watch a couple episodes of this show. I realize just how stupid Garnet's origin story is.
When the episode first aired, I was fucking around on my phone while watching it so I didn't really catch everything. This time, though, I actually paid attention. It's stupid because Ruby "saved" Sapphire from something that had precisely zero consequence.
See, when Sapphire gives Blue Diamond her prediction, she says that two of her three Ruby guards will be destroyed along with herself. But the thing is, only their physical forms were destroyed. Their gems were fine, and they'd have simply reformed later, good as new. The conversation with Blue Diamond even makes it abundantly clear that Sapphire would've just come back once they went back to the homeworld.
The "main" Ruby's rash decision to save Sapphire from something she didn't need to be saved from honestly seemed more like "this is something that's supposed to happen because plot" rather than something that actually had a valid in-story reason to happen. The show's alright, but people who praise it for its writing are either lying or stupid. They fumble with stuff like this a lot.
See, when Sapphire gives Blue Diamond her prediction, she says that two of her three Ruby guards will be destroyed along with herself. But the thing is, only their physical forms were destroyed. Their gems were fine, and they'd have simply reformed later, good as new. The conversation with Blue Diamond even makes it abundantly clear that Sapphire would've just come back once they went back to the homeworld.
The "main" Ruby's rash decision to save Sapphire from something she didn't need to be saved from honestly seemed more like "this is something that's supposed to happen because plot" rather than something that actually had a valid in-story reason to happen. The show's alright, but people who praise it for its writing are either lying or stupid. They fumble with stuff like this a lot.
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I liked the show at first as well. (Lion's design is so pretty.) After taking a hiatus and coming back to it, I realized how bored I was while watching a newer episode. I agree with CN probably wanting to get rid of the show, but they probably fear the backlash they would get if they do.
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The reason they do the Bombs is specifically because what I heard that when the show is on a weekly airing basis its ratings end up lower than they'd like it to be and Bombs have consistently pulled in the numbers they want. Someone's clearly disgruntled though, the Crewniverse has said before that if something gets leaked it's leaked on purpose and we just got a full Bomb before Cartoon Network even said anything about it.
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That may explain why SU does it, but the fact they're extending it to all their other shows is a little problematic in the long run. Because outside of hardcores, most fans will just end up either forgetting about it or complain about it.
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I know damn well this isn't gonna happen, but I think it'd be cool as fuck if at the end of the series, we're treated to the gigantic twist that the Crystal Gems have actually been the "bad guys" in the conflict with Homeworld the whole time. Which would actually not be coming totally out of nowhere.
That likely isn't gonna happen but I'd like if it did. It'd help to justify some of the shittier character traits we've seen in the Crystal Gems which so far we seem to be expected to ignore because "they're the good guys."
The diamonds were portrayed much more sympathetically in the new leaked episodes than when we saw them before. Blue Diamond, as we saw her in the new episode, doesn't really seem at all like she did when we saw her in Garnet's story. It'd be cool to learn that the gems had been lying to Steven and everyone the whole time about how terrible Homeworld was, and that they were actually the ones who were more at fault.
Humans are, objectively speaking, greatly inferior to gems. They seem to be on the same level to gems that dogs and cats are to us. Now, remember that Rose Quartz killed Pink Diamond and kicked off the gem war apparently because of what they were doing to the humans. Imagine in real life if somebody assassinated the President because something they were doing that was necessary for the country interfered with a deer habitat or something (remember, the Diamonds wanted to colonize Earth to turn it into another of their gem factories so it did have a point).
Humans are, objectively speaking, greatly inferior to gems. They seem to be on the same level to gems that dogs and cats are to us. Now, remember that Rose Quartz killed Pink Diamond and kicked off the gem war apparently because of what they were doing to the humans. Imagine in real life if somebody assassinated the President because something they were doing that was necessary for the country interfered with a deer habitat or something (remember, the Diamonds wanted to colonize Earth to turn it into another of their gem factories so it did have a point).
That likely isn't gonna happen but I'd like if it did. It'd help to justify some of the shittier character traits we've seen in the Crystal Gems which so far we seem to be expected to ignore because "they're the good guys."
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I would love that too. I mean when you really think about it, the Gems are far from the best role models out there (Hell, I'd argue just being 'bad' is understating it). So seeing them revealed to be the villains would actually be an interesting plot twist. And not just the main ones either- Every one we've seen thus far, named or unnamed, in fact.
But I doubt they're going to pull that.
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Here's what I think is gonna happen instead:
The diamonds are gonna find out that the Cluster got bubbled (which, side note, was a giant cop-out to that storyline) and they're going to try and get rid of the bubble somehow. They'll almost succeed, but Steven will be all, "you loved Pink Diamond, is this what she'd want, blah blah blah." The diamonds will admit that they can't let go, and still miss her terribly. They'll all share a good cry and then the diamonds will fix all the corrupted gems (because they can probably do that; they can corrupt gems, so they can probably un-corrupt them as well), and every previously un-redeemed villain will turn good, regardless of whether it makes sense to or not. And just for the hell of it, Rose Quartz will come back somehow because HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY!!!
Obviously that's a bit of an exaggeration, but I doubt I'll be too far off. It'd be cooler if we got a neat action sequence when the Crystal Gems finally face the Diamonds, but I'm not betting on that.
The diamonds are gonna find out that the Cluster got bubbled (which, side note, was a giant cop-out to that storyline) and they're going to try and get rid of the bubble somehow. They'll almost succeed, but Steven will be all, "you loved Pink Diamond, is this what she'd want, blah blah blah." The diamonds will admit that they can't let go, and still miss her terribly. They'll all share a good cry and then the diamonds will fix all the corrupted gems (because they can probably do that; they can corrupt gems, so they can probably un-corrupt them as well), and every previously un-redeemed villain will turn good, regardless of whether it makes sense to or not. And just for the hell of it, Rose Quartz will come back somehow because HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY!!!
Obviously that's a bit of an exaggeration, but I doubt I'll be too far off. It'd be cooler if we got a neat action sequence when the Crystal Gems finally face the Diamonds, but I'm not betting on that.
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My approach would be have the twist revealed in the second-to-last season, have Steven be a double agent of sorts throughout most of the final season, until everything comes to a head near the end.
Granted, what I described is basically Steven Universe by way of John le Carre, but I'd personally watch that instead of the "Love is the real power!" nonsense the writers are pushing.
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I think what's gonna happen is that Yellow Diamond might be made more sympathetic but I ultimately think she's shaping up to be the big bad. Blue Diamond looks humane up until you remember the Garnet flashback and then also how she got pretty tense at Sapphire's presence.
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My little SJW cartoon: We make ponies look more mature and meaningful.
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Eh, I don't mind the antagonists not being 100% evil, to be honest. Most kid shows just do the "good guys right, bad guys wrong" thing. I can appreciate the fact that it shows even the Crystal Gems have done some shitty things in the past. And it's not like everyone is redeemed. Jasper went full corruption, that one Ruby that tried to stab Steven is still out there with their murderboner, etc. And Blue Diamond can still be someone who mourns and wants to preserve Earth for Pink Diamond while still being an asshole. From the looks of things, any gems that were under Pink Diamond get treated like crap(the Rose Quartz being forever bubbled, the Jaspers and Amethysts being the lowest of the low in this aristocratic society Gems seem to have).
I would really be interested in seeing an episode where they manage to free some of the Rose Quartz.
I would really be interested in seeing an episode where they manage to free some of the Rose Quartz.
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My only major opinion about the current leaks is that I'm a very big fan of Blue Diamond. I find her design very appealing and fitting for her more humane portrail than in the Garnet backstory flashback. She looks the least terrible out of 90% of the characters, at least. It works especially well since we see her as very vulnerable, yet still very intimidating based on her sudden tone shift when Sapphire's talking with her. I feel like they can get some milage out of her character.
On a different note: That song by Yellow Diamond was awful. It didn't tie in well with the emotional scene and the music and vocals felt like they barely synced up. I'm sure YD's VA is trying, but if they absolutely had to give her a song, they chose the worst possible moment.
On a different note: That song by Yellow Diamond was awful. It didn't tie in well with the emotional scene and the music and vocals felt like they barely synced up. I'm sure YD's VA is trying, but if they absolutely had to give her a song, they chose the worst possible moment.
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I feel like they were going for a more "alien" feeling to the music, but I'll agree it didn't sync up well