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Heh! That doesn't really narrow it down for me -- there's a LOT of retards out there.
Tactical Indie RPGs - The sucessors of X-COM, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics and Heroes of Might and Magic.
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Basically, there's an YouTuber called Mangs who might have committed sexual assault a few years ago, but nothing much has happened of it aside from most of his co-hosts cutting ties with him and this retard occasionally REEING about that and Mangs making the occasional AW mod. But what's relevant to this is that he has more or less worn out his stay in the Advance Wars community solely because he's the type of autist who can't just let shit die off like those Dwarves from the OG Warhammer series.
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The entire situation was an enormous clusterfuck, but he seems to have mellowed out, considering how he didn't do an reaction video to Mang's Warside stream, yet
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It's amazing to me that it takes being an irritating autist for someone to get ousted from a random community these days. Being a sexual deviant is a-okay, no gatekeeping required. Bleh.
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No, the sexual stuff was just from him sharing an bed with an known eWhore who tried to cancel him without taking it to court or something. The autist is just there to screech about how miserable his own life is getting and to oust the famous YouTuber because "it's not fair" for Mangs to continue to be successful after being accused of molesting someone.
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Ain't that the truth. X-COM 2's story was pretty dogshit too now that I think about it. "Hey great job beating the aliens in X-COM EU and EW! But humanity lost anyway, lol, get rekt scrub, start over again loser!"
God dammit.
Yeah, but if you canonically won X-COM, what would you even do in the sequel? Turn-based tactical can shooting sim? Timed missions where you rescue a passed-out drunk Bradford from a bar bathroom before he gets robbed?
Changing gears, I’m playing through Rogue Trader and while I’m enjoying the combat (Kibella is mah waifu, Pasqual and Yrliet are Best Man and Maid of Honor. Argenta and Cassia are trash btw hope this helps!) I find it a bit too over-engineered. Having to plan 30 levels in advance on how to stack some abstract token type so I can kill everything in turn 2 feels a bit more fiddly than I’m in the mood for. I’m actually wondering if anyone can point me towards something more like a slightly-more-complex Shining Force 1/2. I’ve always been a PC guy, so A) assume I don’t know about console titles, and B) I don’t have a console to play; it’d have to be PC native or playable via an emulator.
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Take the fight to the aliens? Fend off a substantially larger invasion fleet sent by the aliens once they realize their initial attempt was a failure? Suppose in the intervening 20 years between games, X-COM reverse engineered the spacecraft used by the aliens, and Earth started building its own fleet, and as the first weapons-capable ships start coming online you start getting alerts from listening posts and spot an inbound alien fleet. You spend the game fighting off the invasion and growing your fleet (accelerating construction via salvage and bolstering numbers via boarding parties), then once the fleet is destroyed, you lead your newly-assembled fleet of your own warships to go push the aliens' shit in on their homeworld.
Plenty of places they could have taken the story without saying "lol good try but you lost anyway."
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I remember when Mooger Meng did this in his LP and wound up nuking everything on the final level.
We really need shit like this in the modern day instead of devs reeeing about balance
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Sure, but if you switch it up to space fleet combat, you’re playing a different game, and not the “near future gunfights in familiar, often urban, semi-destructible terrain that provides lots of opportunity for cover and flanking” skirmish conflicts of X-Com. It could be a fun and engaging game, certainly, but it wouldn’t be the same genre.
Even a “Earth reverse-engineers alien technologies and builds colonies, and aliens attack those colonies” would run into difficulties. If the aliens really didn’t want humans to have those colonies, presumably they could just bomb them from orbit, rather than get in squad-level gunfights.
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You'd think they'd have just bombarded Earth if they were trying to conquer it too, but they didn't. Maybe they focused more on infiltration, guerilla tactics, psy skills, and mind control rather than mass destruction.
Meh. You could make something work and not give up the "spirit" of X-COM. Well, maybe devs of twenty years ago could. Not today's devs if that most recent "Chimera Squad" X-COM garbage is any indication.
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Immediately upon reading the comment by @moocow I had a bunch of ideas spring to mind about where their X-Com could have led. I'm not saying they're good ideas, but they're not "lol you lost".
- fighting on the Moon, or Mars, etc. Both outside to take advantage of low gravity and in bases where you have to worry shockwaves in tunnels and such.
- fighting in space stations. Explosive decompression, ala Sean Connery and Outland.
- boarding parties storming baddie spaceships. Defending your side's ships.
- taking the fight to alien planets and towns. Pull a reverse X-Com where the humans are the ones warping down into towns and blasting away.
I think there would have been room for a decent game designer to manoeuvre there and come up with some neat ideas. And while I played the hell out of XCom 2, I never gelled with its setting. Something else could have worked great.
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It is a POS but when it worked, it was great.
A lot of deepth but so much jank.
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Follow up after trying NITRO GEN OMEGA it's not very good the combat system is boring and very simple the character interactions are extremely generic and repetitive. I do not care about my characters or the world as I do not know why we are fighting or what the enemies even are. The sound design is still bad and does not get me into the giant robot battle at all. Everything needs to be bigger badder and cranked up to 1000% to make it enjoyable to make the player not care about the why as they just want to rocket punch more enemies.
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Oh ye, I remember playing a demo of it back in the day, it def was a challenging game.
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Seconded. I thought the idea was neat and the first trailer i watched looked good but the simplicity of the combat is what absolutely killed it for me.
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Pretty sure that was LasPak's thread. I've never done one for any of the X-Com series, though I've considered a run on the 2012 version.
Chimera Squad could have been a nice side game if Firaxis hadn't gone full retard. Just the concept of having some of the alien races so integrated into various societies on Earth that they can show up as troop options would be cool enough to fit in with later games in the nuCom series, but noooooo. We don't get to have smart people involved in gamedev any more.
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Yeah, it actually was LasPak, come to think of if. Doesn't really help much that the end result from both of you usually ends with turning everything into chunky salsa
Honestly, Chimera Squad's biggest mistake was that it was too big of an timeskip. Since most of the drama surrounding the founding of the city has been resolved and now you have an glorified SWAT team doing the usual raids and detective work as opposed to fighting off something supernatural or apocalyptic
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Second game: UFOs, underwater now, for some reason. Third one: Instead of saving the planet, you’re babysitting one moderately sized city?
Meanwhile, the planet’s basically a wasteland because of all the fallout from the earlier games. I don’t even know if the manual spells it out exactly, but the vibe is 'finite humans, infinite aliens,' and no real ending.
XCOM 2 is just this tired sequel with that dumbass reset button story.
Chimera Squad had a shot at opening up the XCOM universe beyond Earth, but it just kinda fizzled out.