Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

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WTBOnlineFather said:
Automotive industry execs think it's necessary. Or rather they just decide for you that it is. It's true you can't have shit like "FuLL sElf dRiviNg" or automated parking without a fucking mountain of software behind it to prop it up and make it certifiably "safe", but if you have no interest in that shit soon your only option will be to buy 20+ year old cars because these retarded gimmicks are here to stay.
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Here's to hoping that EV conversion kits become viable.
Maybe some autist of a similar flavour to me makes them with less intrusive display tech for the battery management. Or manages to integrate them into the host CAN. I mean, my 2018 compact has display stuff in the dash, it's nice orange dot matrizes. Those e-R3volt people do a CAN module that integrates their new drive train in the existing CAN bus, so maybe there's the possibility to integrate BMS info into it as well.
 
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Are EV kits even worth it when they're just going to have the same exact problems that manufacturer built EVs have already what with the poor range and degrading battery life?
A 1980s 4 speed overdrive transmission cost me less to rebuild than buying a used vehicle (cost me less than $1500 even after taxes)
To any EV bros, how do you compete and cope with prices that low? initial cost really is just 3 paychecks away from doing it even while in crippling debt, I only include the transmission cost because that's usually the first thing to go if you do oil changes regularly, but a 305 Chevy V8 may cost probably double for a rebuild which will include plenty of modern upgrades for better reliability, so if you can negotiate a possible financing option with your mechanic, you can pay for a rebuild of your engine.
The reliability is also gonna last you over 30 years depending on how well you take good care of your vehicles (and to be fair, only if it's an ICE vehicle from the 80s/90s/2000s), as opposed to batteries which hardly last a decade.
 
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FiddleAFox said:
Are EV kits even worth it when they're just going to have the same exact problems that manufacturer built EVs have already what with the poor range and degrading battery life?
A 1980s 4 speed overdrive transmission cost me less to rebuild than buying a used vehicle (cost me less than $1500 even after taxes)
To any EV bros, how do you compete and cope with prices that low? initial cost really is just 3 paychecks away from doing it even while in crippling debt, I only include the transmission cost because that's usually the first thing to go if you do oil changes regularly, but a 305 Chevy V8 may cost probably double for a rebuild which will include plenty of modern upgrades for better reliability, so if you can negotiate a possible financing option with your mechanic, you can pay for a rebuild of your engine.
The reliability is also gonna last you over 30 years depending on how well you take good care of your vehicles (and to be fair, only if it's an ICE vehicle from the 80s/90s/2000s), as opposed to batteries which hardly last a decade.
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maybe hybrid kits? an electric motor paired with a generator would be an excellent way to revitalize an old car that is otherwise in good shape. Like the ones from the era of interchangeable audio decks or even older.
 
FiddleAFox said:
Are EV kits even worth it when they're just going to have the same exact problems that manufacturer built EVs have already what with the poor range and degrading battery life?
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EV kits are for people who want to experiment and tinker with their car. It's not much different to the perennial LS swap, but it goes zhwoom instead of poppitypoppoty. Harmless fun.
 
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FiddleAFox said:
Are EV kits even worth it when they're just going to have the same exact problems that manufacturer built EVs have already what with the poor range and degrading battery life?
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Range is usually pretty shite on these conversions, mostly because dedicated EVs are build around the battery, while a conversion has limited space for that. So those conversions usually tap out at like 250 km or so.
Battery degradation is allegedly not that much of a problem anymore. I don't quite believe it, tho.
 
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FiddleAFox said:
Are EV kits even worth it when they're just going to have the same exact problems that manufacturer built EVs have already what with the poor range and degrading battery life?
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I def see them being useful for blown engine cars for driving around town, tbh I would love an old 70's land yacht where the asthmatic V8 is replaced with a EV setup for boating around the suburbs in comfort, be a power upgrade too tbh xD
 
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IdiotPlusPlus said:
I def see them being useful for blown engine cars for driving around town, tbh I would love an old 70's land yacht where the asthmatic V8 is replaced with a EV setup for boating around the suburbs in comfort, be a power upgrade too tbh xD
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They also have more than enough space in the engine bay to store some batteries.
Range would be absolutely abysmal, of course, those things are heavy :biggrin:
But yeah, I think it'd be hilarious to put an electric motor into a 70s Chevy Impala.
I've seen some Swede do that to a 66 Impala because the Swedes love their murrcan sheet metal, but they used a Tesla drive train like so many conversions.
It's actually quite nice, they used the engine bay for the batteries, put the motors in the back, probably restoring some balance and leaving trunk space, and left the dashboard pretty original aside from the obligatory control screen.
It's common for EV conversions to just use Tesla drive trains or, alternatively, be hilarious DIY hackjobs, but especially that Impala looks really nice. Many DIY conversions stuff the trunk full of batteries and just stick the motor to the original tranny, but that one did it nicely. Also, good job on not having a disgustingly modernized interior. That's the kind of touch screen I could live with.
 
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jeff7989 said:
Better put a Coyote or LS in it instead.
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Also a good idea. I like the idea of certain older cars with electric motors tho. Something like a late 80s Mercedes S class was meant to be ultimate comfort and luxury, and a quiet, torquey electric motor seems perfect for that. Sadly, those things are super heavy and don't work well for ev conversion.
I'm also a huge fan of Fallout so my dream is putting an electric motor in a 1959 Crown Imperial.
Generally it's a neat way to extend the life and practicality of old sheet metal.
Gas won't be affordable for too long.
 
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Meriasek said:
Generally it's a neat way to extend the life and practicality of old sheet metal.
Gas won't be affordable for too long.
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Definitely, and means you can keep an old car on the road longer(meaning you can mock greenies who buy a new car every few years), save Petrol for the more fun stuff like running a tuned V8, and piss off ideological retards who can't fathom that you can have a nice comfy low range EV car that isn't a POS hatchback for commuting, and a fun car when you want to have the power or go for fun cruise.

I would also love to have a turbine hybrid tbh, can run those things on anything that burns as a range extender and high torque, the tech has literally been around since the fucking 50's for use in trains, I don't understand why it's such a big deal to put it in cars lol
 
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VinFast had to already reduce the price of their upcoming 3-row VF9 EV SUV by 10k, to a starting price of $71k. And whoever actually buys one of these, is confirmed a dullard with too much money. It also has the same Tesla-esque minimalistic interior that the VF8 has, which will be a pain to fix once shit starts breaking (the screen being the big one).

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Agreeably4263 said:
I don't even understand the appeal of electric cars, especially the retarded "truck."
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Don't worry about it. We just had a minor invasion of faggots into the thread. The soy is strong with them.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would rather have electric instead of dinosaur juice, needs to be put up against a wall and shot.
 
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