The Gamecube controller was unfairly criticized and is actually one of the most ergonomic and well-designed controllers ever made

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I will say the controller is well bit, but it really should have followed what Sony and Microsoft were doing.
The lack of two bumper buttons and L3/R3 massively limited what could be done in games.
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The SFC face button layout is good, but not particularly ergonomic. The X button (Diamond) is not so easily reachable with the thumb, assuming B (Cross) is the primary button. Otherwise if the primary button is A (Circle), like for many RPGs, Y becomes difficult to reach quickly.
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Do you need a controller for ANTS or something?
 
George Lucas said:
The Saturn Controller had the same amount of buttons, didn’t it? It’s just that Sony really went above and beyond with the DualShock. In hindsight, it’s really weird that the original controller had four shoulder buttons when shoulder buttons were hardly used at the time. I have no idea where the stick buttons came from. The second stick was originally meant for driving games (analog gas and brake). Some genius figured out that it works well for shooters later.
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actually the n64 did that. Duke3d, turok/south park, jetforce gemini, and many others used the stick for aiming and c-butons for strafe movement.
 
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Broseph said:
I think that's the reason why Xbox was never popular in Japan is because the controller was too big and their hands are too small.
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No its because theres no good japanese games. The entire library of xbox is shit, gears, cod, halo, sports, ubisoft. Xbox is a shit console with a shit controller made for retards. The reversal of the abxy AND changing the colors everyone knows and loves from playstation is retarded.

The only games worth owning an xbox for are Tenchu Z, Ninja Gaiden black, Hunter the reckoning and fuzion frenzy. And of course, the answer to those is emulation. It has a terrible library of games and focused entirely on appealing to people who want to play shooters... on console. RETARDS.
 
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The Dualshock controllers didn't start feeling good to me until the PS4, the PS5 controller is also nice.
It is very difficult to go back to PS3 or below.
 
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Scarthew said:
No its because theres no good japanese games. The entire library of xbox is shit, gears, cod, halo, sports, ubisoft. Xbox is a shit console with a shit controller made for retards. The reversal of the abxy AND changing the colors everyone knows and loves from playstation is retarded.

The only games worth owning an xbox for are Tenchu Z, Ninja Gaiden black, Hunter the reckoning and fuzion frenzy. And of course, the answer to those is emulation. It has a terrible library of games and focused entirely on appealing to people who want to play shooters... on console. RETARDS.
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I know that, I was joking.
 
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The Gamecube controller has it's quirks but it's functional, the real shit Nintendo controller will always be the N64 controller.
 
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Mr. Duck said:
The Gamecube controller has it's quirks but it's functional, the real shit Nintendo controller will always be the N64 controller.
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This has become a zoomer meme lately but there's nothing wrong with the n64 controller if you understand it as a product of its time.
Yeah a third of it turned out to be decorative, but it functioned great as a controller (except for all the ones manufactured for the US market that they forgot to lubricate, lol eat shit), and they were hedging their bets with both the market and developers at a time when the stick could have easily scared people off. Instead of playing that conservatively they really leaned into it and made both the controller and the console look like some alien shit to help frame the jump to the "64-bit" era as a big deal. I still have a marketing VHS they sent out when you preordered that's like 70% just talking about the controller and rumble pak.

People were sometimes confused by it or made three-hand jokes back in the day but it's telling that outright shitting on it is a phenomenon that only really started up with the modern fad of retro hype and collectible scamming.
 
Involuntary Celebrity said:
This has become a zoomer meme lately but there's nothing wrong with the n64 controller if you understand it as a product of its time.
Yeah a third of it turned out to be decorative, but it functioned great as a controller (except for all the ones manufactured for the US market that they forgot to lubricate, lol eat shit), and they were hedging their bets with both the market and developers at a time when the stick could have easily scared people off. Instead of playing that conservatively they really leaned into it and made both the controller and the console look like some alien shit to help frame the jump to the "64-bit" era as a big deal. I still have a marketing VHS they sent out when you preordered that's like 70% just talking about the controller and rumble pak.

People were sometimes confused by it or made three-hand jokes back in the day but it's telling that outright shitting on it is a phenomenon that only really started up with the modern fad of retro hype and collectible scamming.
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>disliking a controller is a zoomer meme

Nigger, i played the N64 when it was current and beaten games in it, and even back then i hated the controller and prefered the PS1 Dual Shock, what is more of a meme these days is autistic fanboys running to the defense of the controller and saying that criticism of it is a forced meme.

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Mr. Duck said:
>disliking a controller is a zoomer meme

Nigger, i played the N64 when it was current and beaten games in it, and even back then i hated the controller and prefered the PS1 Dual Shock, what is more of a meme these days is autistic fanboys running to the defense of the controller and saying that criticism of it is a forced meme.

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Man it must have sucked to keep your mouth shut on such a dumb opinion for all that time until a bunch of gen-z idiot children eventually materialised on twitter to back you up.
 
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C-stick: jesus don't get me fucking started. I'm not sure if Timesplitters 2 just didn't port right, but the C stick had what seemed like a mile-wide dead zone and very rapid acceleration, almost like the stick was sending button like "on/off" inputs, when used as an aiming stick. It was like a revelation when I snagged a copy of TS2 for the PS2 and realized "holy shit, I'm not bad at aiming, the aiming stick on the gamecube is actually just REALLY bad at it". My friend and I had gone through basically the entire campaign on Coop by that point (all difficulties) and I distinctly remember several missions where rapid precision sniping had to happen which we tore our hair out over working on which magically just didn't have the same issues on the PS2 since I could actually move the crosshair just slightly with the aim stick and not have it go careening past the intended target by and inch (onscreen) or more.

I'm not convinced it was ever meant to be used for things like aiming and the fact that the metroid prime games went out of their way to avoid using it for anything like that bolsters this hypothesis.

Z button: nigga why. Nigga just put another one on the left, like, come on now, the button itself even felt tacked on compared to all the others just in how it clicked. Symmetry!

Those things are built like a tank though and fine for a lot of things, but the c-stick is more than enough for me to never buy an FPS that isn't metroid prime for that console.


Still, somehow not quite as frustrating as first gen Xbone controllers that had the magically distintigrating sticks. No, really, those things had the face material and the stick material made out of incompatibly hard materials so the face would cut a groove around the stick and leave plastic dust to migrate into the controller, to say nothing of changing the profile of the stick as uneven wear occurs over time.
 
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>disliking a controller is a zoomer meme

Nigger, i played the N64 when it was current and beaten games in it, and even back then i hated the controller and prefered the PS1 Dual Shock, what is more of a meme these days is autistic fanboys running to the defense of the controller and saying that criticism of it is a forced meme.

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That’s funny because the DualShock didn’t even exist when the N64 was in its prime. You must have gotten into it late.
 
George Lucas said:
That’s funny because the DualShock didn’t even exist when the N64 was in its prime. You must have gotten into it late.
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The prime for the N64 and PS1 happened more in the very late 90s/early 2000s on my shithole country, and the DualShock was already the standard controller with the console by then.
 
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Ergonomic or not, the lack of a left z-trigger or select button and overly small D-pad have permanently gimped it. Those negatives more than make up for the innovative face button layout.
 
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