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The Pooner lawyer has posted a shirtless pic to prove she's not a mutilated woman.
Unironic good job not being fat but maybe keep the shirt on.

Has any argument ever been won by posting shirtless pics? It seems like a universally bad strategy, but I'm not a professional litigator.
 
A detransitioned male on r/detrans unironically complains about how uwu straight pooners have taken over the yaoi genre, believing men loving men content should be strictly the domain of fudge-packing homosexual men.

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Another r/detrans user automatically assumes he's a pooner because he brought up yaoi lmao

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#notliketheotherpooners

Detrans or not, it's extra funny when people of gender complain about gay spaces being colonized by retarded horny troons. Doesn't feel so great now does it, fella?
 
A detransitioned male on r/detrans unironically complains about how uwu straight pooners have taken over the yaoi genre, believing men loving men content should be strictly the domain of fudge-packing homosexual men.

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#notliketheotherpooners

Detrans or not, it's extra funny when people of gender complain about gay spaces being colonized by retarded horny troons. Doesn't feel so great now does it, fella?
A True and Honest gay man looking at yaoi? Unless it's bara and/or furry (which doesn't even interest pooners), I seriously doubt it.
 
Unironic good job not being fat but maybe keep the shirt on.
The term for that type of body is mutilated skinny fat.
You'd think someone who gets to abuse a Testosterone 'script would actually build muscle, but most of these Pooners are pasty, dumpy women who seem to never bother to work out. You think they'd at least use the T script to help them with their LARP but all they seem to get out of it is a visit from Brother Norwood and acne.
 
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A True and Honest gay man looking at yaoi? Unless it's bara and/or furry (which doesn't even interest pooners), I seriously doubt it.
You'd be surprised, but there are enough men who consume yaoi as a substitute for gay fiction. BL is a really bizarre case, when it's at the same time totally for straight women and also a pure positive lgbtq+ qweer media to represent the poor didndunuffing gays. Depending on the discourse, it becomes one or the other. If you criticise it for being misogynistic and cruel to female characters, the fujos will scream that it's not for women and that it's a pure, totally legit gay story. If you mention the unrealistic portrayal of gays, they will quickly remind you that it is a fetish genre for women.

At its core, yaoi is neither gay nor straight, it's an escapist fantasy for women who hate women and heterosexual relationships. So, duh, no wonder some gays find this genre appealing.

I am currently reading a study by some autistic Japanese "lesbian" (lol no) fujoshi, "Reading and Living Yaoi: Male-Male Narratives as Women's Sexual Subculture in Japan" and she often mentions how BL is something gender-transcending and liberating, a perfect world where two people love each other without ties to their sex. At the same time, female characters only exist to be a stock background to highlight the male character's masculinity and get the chance to become valid in the narrative only if they themselves are lesbians or otherwise queer.

A heterosexual woman is depicted by BL as being passive, obedient, pathetic or annoying, not far away from how misogynistic male authors who write masculine bromance stories show them as well. And, coincidentally, fujoshi are also big consumers of stories of this kind.

Oh gee, I wonder if BL's subtle ideas can be connected in any way to the current pooner madness? Nah, probably just porn and internet addiction, no need to think further.
 
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The Pooner lawyer has posted a shirtless pic to prove she's not a mutilated woman.
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I know the picture is showing us very little but the printer stacked on a pile of stuff makes me think her living space probably deserves to be in the troon dungeon thread.
I like how it’s shot from below to make her look taller. And I can never get over the way she thinks she has to look absolutely furious at all times, you know, like a man does.
 
"transmasc bingo."
I find this a bit off, because it really seems like most pooners (especially the total fujo pooners who seem to make up the majority of them), don't really have any masculine traits at all. It seems a lot of pooners are women with the most feminine demeanor, most feminine speech patterns and the most stereotypical female interests. With most of them, I doubt that they were ever any sort of tomboy.

Like most women, they seem to hang mostly around other women, I doubt that was different for them when they were ķids. Even the short haircuts they get, and the outfits they think are androgynous usually just scream "woman". This isn't defintely isn't new news, but I just wanted to point this out in regards to this bingo.
 
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The fact that pooners associate being slovenly boar-women with manhood feels like it's saying more than they intend to. Wash yourself, you opprobrious skunk, I know that you could fell an elephant with the sheer stench of your armpits.
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Becoming Grosser Made Me Happier

random thought i wanted to share see if others feel similarly. the hygiene changes that come with starting T were something that really worried me, and if im being honest it was a bit of a learning curve for me. my girl body basically didnt sweat or stink, and my boy body fucking definitely does lol. ive been on 'mones for almost 8 months now
i was super depressed before starting hormones. a large part of transition is re-learning how to do things, and sometimes learning how to do basic stuff you never did before (because of insecurity, or dysphoria, or depression, etc etc etc). the hygiene changes were a real tangible thing that forced me to start acting differently, and i had to figure out ways to incorporate daily showers into my schedule, find new body wash for new acne i never had, etc etc. but yeah the grossness has weirdly been a positive thing for me. being a girl was easy asf you can look decent or even great without washing your hair or making an effort. as a guy, youre just some guy, and also maybe you stink. if i show up somewhere in an old t shirt and pants w holes in it, im no longer the chill girl that cant be bothered, im the lame dude that fucking stinks in the corner lmfaoo. so now i have to put the effort in. and i actually want to put the effort in! stuff like fashion and skin care is fun for the first time. crazy stuff
anyway im having fun learning how to be a boy hope you guys are enjoying it too
Troons are constantly engaging with medical care, so it's always surprising when they learn what is or isn't covered and seem positively stupefied as to how insurance actually works. Fun fact, Kiwis: the reason Medicaid won't cover it and they cannot accept it OOP (out of pocket) is because law dictates that providers cannot bill patients for certain procedures, treatments, programs, etc. if they are on Medicaid. It is literally a Medicaid rule, which one would know if they ever fucking asked.
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Top surgeon won't let me pay out of pocket

I'm so fucking bummed out. I feel like I've been trying to get top surgery for years now and I just keep hitting obstacle after obstacle.
I have worked so fucking hard to get this done and at every corner I am prevented from getting to the end goal.
I'm on KY Medicaid and there is a blanket ban on gender affirming care. There is no situation where Medicaid will cover top surgery so I decided to pay out of pocket. I have the out of pocket money because my father died traumatically and suddenly a little over a year ago.
I spent time getting my WPATH letter written to the surgeon's particular standards. I have made many calls. I have gone through so much effort to get this done.
I finally got a call back from the surgery center to schedule my appointment after submitting my letter.
I was told they will not work with Medicaid patients regardless of paying out of pocket. I didn't even pass go. I'm just so fucking depressed because the dysphoria is killing me. I don't know what to do.
I managed to get my hysterectomy scheduled with a trans competent doctor in KY but that isn't until August of this year. I also had to go through many humiliating hoops to get my hysterectomy on the table. They informed me they would code it under my pelvic pain from atrophy to get it covered, which is what should have been done by the first doctor.
The first doctor coded my hysto under "gender dysphoria". My insurance denied it of course, and they gave me an estimate of 40k out of pocket. In no universe could I afford that, but at least I had to OPTION to pay out of pocket.
I thought top surgery would be the same deal, but the amount would hover more around 12k which I COULD afford with inherentence money.
I'm just so defeated. I don't know how much longer I can stand living with this chest. Sometimes I feel like I'm treated like a second class citizen for been a Medicaid recipient and being trans.
I just am not seeing this play out for me until I move out of state, and that's not until my boyfriend finishes school in a few years. I feel like crying but all I can really muster up is this intense emptyness. I'm fucking crushed that they won't work with me just because I have Medicaid.
Getting my life changing surgeries just seem so impossible and far away and it just hurts. If I can't pay them to do what I need to do I don't realistically know how I'm going to get this done. I'm tired of trying just to fail over and over again.
I don't know how much more effort I have in me.
The mere notion that understanding makeup is a womanly thing is so casually and blatantly sexist, it makes it difficult not to get MATI at pooners in particular. Traitorous little vauriens, the lot of them - you think throwing other women under the bus will save you, but it won't.
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Anyone hates the saying "trans men are better boyfriends because they understand women better"?

I've heard this phrase a lot coming both from women and trans men. Yes I do agree with it to some degree. I do know how scary it can be to walk alone at night or constantly have to look over your shoulder literally everywhere you go. And I do understand period pains. But in all honesty I also don't understand women better then (some) cis men. If you were to ask me to get you a tampon/pad I'd probably be just as confused and will send you pictures from the Aile asking which one you need. Or if you'd show me some makeup stuff I'd be even more confused and wouldn't even know half of them. And honestly it might also take me a while to find the clit.
Personally I do think I'm better than (most) cis men just because most of them are assholes but I hate when women say that because in some way it feels as though they don't label me as a man and rather a 'trans' man.
 
I find this a bit off, because it really seems like most pooners (especially the total fujo pooners who seem to make up the majority of them), don't really have any masculine traits at all. It seems a lot of pooners are women with the most feminine demeanor, most feminine speech patterns and the most stereotypical female interests. With most of them, I doubt that they were ever any sort of tomboy.

Like most women, they seem to hang mostly around other women, I doubt that was different for them when they were ķids. Even the short haircuts they get, and the outfits they think are androgynous usually just scream "woman". This isn't defintely isn't new news, but I just wanted to point this out in regards to this bingo.

This was actually a basis for the theory of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, if I remember correctly. Back when I used to occasionally browse 4thWaveNow, many parents would comment about how shocked they were that their very feminine teenage daughters suddenly claimed to be trans men. Many of them weren’t tomboys in the slightest, being into the girliest interests and fashions and often boy crazy. A total 180 from the old (but still real and common ime) stereotype of the butch lesbian pooning out. The parents already figured out that it was social contagion, yet were stumped what to do beyond do their best to keep their daughters from medically transitioning before they were legally unable to stop them.

Tee hee, I can't find the clit!" Is that the pooner version of pretending to not be able to open Pringles? God, it's such a stereotypical list of things dude bro kangs just don't get because that's lady biz yo.

That whole post is stereotypical male behavior. Not just the finding the clit but also “I wouldn’t know what pad you need if you asked me!” Because pads and tampons aren’t super personal products to the point that even women would need to know what their partner specifically wants if they don’t use the same products. It’s like trannies of both sexes use dudebro sex comedies as reference material when they’re not relying on porn.
 
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Unironic good job not being fat but maybe keep the shirt on.

Has any argument ever been won by posting shirtless pics? It seems like a universally bad strategy, but I'm not a professional litigator.
No, you just look like an even bigger faggot.

If you're jacked you just open yourself to roid comments which will 100% make you reee if you're the type to take your shirt off to prove a point in the first place. And if you're skinny fat like this retard, lol still fat AND mutilated.
 
A detransitioned male on r/detrans unironically complains about how uwu straight pooners have taken over the yaoi genre, believing men loving men content should be strictly the domain of fudge-packing homosexual men.

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Another r/detrans user automatically assumes he's a pooner because he brought up yaoi lmao

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#notliketheotherpooners

Detrans or not, it's extra funny when people of gender complain about gay spaces being colonized by retarded horny troons. Doesn't feel so great now does it, fella?
I agree with him about troons obnoxiously invading lesbian and gay spaces, but I don’t understand why he wants to protect yaoi from women given that the target audience of yaoi is… women. He must somehow not be aware of this.
 
A loathsome piece of shit woman seeks assurance that it is okay for her to transition even though her four year old daughter has developed severe anxiety about the prospect and doesn't want to let her mother out of her sight in case it happens.

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My daughter doesn't want me to change​

Advice Request

Hi everyone. This morning all of my fears suddenly turned into reality. I'm a transmasc with a 4 y.o. daughter. I came out to her in the last months because I've decided to medical transition. She's been really calm and curious about the transition since yesterday. Yesterday I've received a message from the clinic with the telephone number of my assigned psy, so that I can contact her to book my first appointment. I was so happy and excited! My daughter asked me to explain again what will happen. I told her about the "medicine" (testosterone) and the fact that my voice will change and I'll grow more body hairs and eventually a beard. She made a strange expression but told she was fine. She wasn't feeling well because of a fever, so I stopped asking questions and waited for this morning. Today I asked her again if something was wrong with that and she bursted into tears, telling me she doesn't want me to change. She likes my voice like this, she doesn't want me to grow a beard. She said she wants to stay with me all the time so that I don't change. We had previously talked a lot about the fact that physical changes won't change anything about how I love her or things like that. I told her I really appreciated her being honest and that I was thankful she shared her concerns with me. But I feel like I wanna d*e now. I don't want her to suffer. I thought she really was okay with all of this as she is so young that I thought she would have grown like this and simply thought it was normal.
I was so happy about the clinic getting in touch with me, but now I don't even know if I still want to do it.
Have you had any similar experiences? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English, it's not my first language.

There are mothers who would give the eyes out of their head if it helped their children. Then there are 'mothers' like this:
She likes my voice like this, she doesn't want me to grow a beard. She said she wants to stay with me all the time so that I don't change.

She also responds to a comment saying:
Thank you so much, I really need reassurance. I'm so scared to hurt her and I don't want her to "mourn" her mother forever. She's still calling me "Mom", for example, and that's totally fine with me even if it attracts a lot more of misgendering from people. I don't know how to help her... Maybe the psy can give me some advice
You know how you can help her, you cunting psycopath?

Don't do this and never mention it again.
When, one day, your daughter is 15 and says 'I have a strange memory that you once told me you wanted to transition' tell her: 'I did tell you that, I was wrong and selfish to contemplate it, and I've come to accept my body.'
 

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I agree with him about troons obnoxiously invading lesbian and gay spaces, but I don’t understand why he wants to protect yaoi from women given that the target audience of yaoi is… women. He must somehow not be aware of this.
There is this weird phenomenon where teh yaoiz are a female thing and teh yuris are (I think) largely made and enjoyed by male coomers. I would think long and hard about why this is and I've tried parsing it before but then I remember this all started in Japan and realize that's really all that's necessary to know about it.

Still, it's so fucking funny hearing pooners go on about how uh, actually they're aren't fetishizers because they're totes super gay themselves and hear from obviously young zoomer gays who were socialized with such girls who think unironically that yaoi isn't a girls' club and that just because it's technically about male characters he has a say. Sir, you are talking about deranged female coomer material here.
 
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