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Keep your eyes peeled florida kiwis. You might be able to get a glimpse.
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mindlessobserver said:
At a minimum all the space agencies and corporations are working at universal adaptability. Which is critical. If a manned flight runs into trouble, it shouldn't have its crew die because the nearest rescue uses a proprietary docking port incompatible with theirs.
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Docking adapters are quite interesting, as going back to Apollo Soyuz when the first universal adapter was developed quite a lot of work had went into it. Why?

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Nobody wanted to be the submissive country when it came to the probe and core mechanism. Apollo used a similar mechanism with its own probe and core

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So, because no country wanted to be seen as feminine the androgynous docking adapter was made. This was quite the necessary development as it would ensure that any spacecraft would be able to dock. The Soviets however would later stick with the probe and core following Apollo Soyuz. Why? Well, the answer is quite simple, it is what they were already using in all of their other programs and thus it would have been too costly to change things. Hence forth, we got APAS. This:

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Despite APAS not being fully adapted with Soyuz, it would still be developed with it being used on Mir, with Buran orbiters being meant to use the adapter, and it being the docking port used by the Shuttle on Mir.

APAS would later form the basis of the current docking systems used with commercial crew + Orion which does have a shared international docking standard, which is agreed upon by NASA, JAXA, ESA and others (the Chinese design would also likely be compatible) for crewed spacecraft. Hell even India is using the same standard. - But they are India, a Far-Right country ran by religious zealots who had to call it the "Bhartiya Docking System" (Bharat being what they call India) because the US would not hand over the technology.

So any international docking system actually came out of the 70s because neither the Soviet Union or the US wanted to be seen as the feminine, submissive power.
 
Apologies if this was posted earlier in the thread, however here is a great read by Charles Camarda about the systemic failures which appear to make the outcomes of the Artemis mission not as rosey a NASA makes them out to be. Some of you may find it interesting to read...only ran across it today on ycombinator news I think.

I'm a nonprofessoinal interested observer with risk and model analysis experience, I enjoy reading stuff like his commentary. His background suggests he's actually supremely qualified but one never knows I suppose. However, the topic of his discussion, NASA hubris and parallels of the systemic shortcomings between the runup to the Challenger disaster and Artemis issues, saddens me.

First paragraph as a teaser,
"I was invited to NASA HQ On Jan. 8th to attend a special meeting to address, I thought, the technical issues with the Orion heatshield. Orion is the Artemis Program’s Apollo-like capsule on steroids which is to lap the Moon much like Apollo 8 in 1968. Instead, what I walked into was a meeting intended to show NASA’s transparency in providing a summary of the analysis and test data used to validate flying the Artemis II mission with a crew."

*edited for clarity...or worse
 
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SpellforceFan said:
Get ready for months of articles about the first nigger/first waman on the Moon. Not trying to dismiss their qualifications, just the fact that articles like that will flood media.
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Isn’t it like a meme that everytime NASA sent up a bruddah the spaceship, disintegrates on exit or reentry?


Now, I don’t follow modern space travel that much, but I’m having real trouble remembering seeing a brudda on the international space station… am I crazy?
 
Trigger Me Timbers said:
Now, I don’t follow modern space travel that much, but I’m having real trouble remembering seeing a brudda on the international space station… am I crazy?
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There's been a few, actually. Two as dedicated ISS crew on SpaceX launches, but about a dozen have been in space since the 90s, with around half of them being technically aboard the ISS when the shuttle was docked there.
 
Let it burn to fuckin ash said:
Apologies if this was posted earlier in the thread, however here is a great read by Charles Camarda about the systemic failures which appear to make the outcomes of the Artemis mission not as rosey a NASA makes them out to be. Some of you may find it interesting to read...only ran across it today on ycombinator news I think.

I'm a nonprofessoinal interested observer with risk and model analysis experience, I enjoy reading stuff like his commentary. His background suggests he's actually supremely qualified but one never knows I suppose. However, the topic of his discussion, NASA hubris and parallels of the systemic shortcomings between the runup to the Challenger disaster and Artemis issues, saddens me.
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Much as I would love to see mankind begin taking steps to become the rightful masters of the Solar System again, I keep hearing shit like this that makes me worry NASA has gone so woke and manager-pilled that this is going to be a Challenger 2.0.
 
What's the fire proofing over/around the titanium floor? Spall protection?
 
mindlessobserver said:
The crew for the mission are
Reid Wiseman
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Victor Glover
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Christina Koch
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Jeremy Hansen
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Guaranteed that they'll focus on the "first black and female orbits of the moon" and when we finally land again, they'll tell the straight white cis men to stay in the capsule until the first disabled trans Afrolatina migrant of color can roll her wheelchair out the hatch and onto the lunar surface.

Modernity is so fucking gay.
 
SpellforceFan said:
Get ready for months of articles about the first nigger/first waman on the Moon. Not trying to dismiss their qualifications, just the fact that articles like that will flood media.
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Their are at least upwardly mobile black people. Now if they had a Mexican on board they'd be fucked.
 
defango said:
WE GOING BACK TO THE MOON!

But seriously who schedules a launch on April fools day?
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It was supposed to launch last month but it failed the fuel test.

As for why April 1 specically? Orbital dynamics. That's just the day they can get to the moon from Florida with the least amount of fuel.
 
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