Viva & Barnes - Balldowasher, delusional "constitutionialst", the "confession through projection" guy who accuses people denouncing child abuse of paedophilia.

[Barry McKockner]

Barnes is wrong again.


The supreme court is HIGHLY likely to only cover immunity to presidential acts (which is the current precedent), of which trumps actions concerning the 2020 elections are covered. But an alleged hush money payment wouldn't be covered as a presidential act.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

Barnes is wrong again.
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The supreme court is HIGHLY likely to only cover immunity to presidential acts (which is the current precedent), of which trumps actions concerning the 2020 elections are covered. But an alleged hush money payment wouldn't be covered as a presidential act.

Correct. There's no reality where they grant Trump immunity for pre-presidential actions.

Barnes is actually a retard.

 

[jalopy]

I caught a little bit of his constitutional violations analysis stream yesterday. One of the things he talked about was the danger of having the government label any substance as a controlled substance to use this to take away Second Amendment rights and custody of children. The example he was using to cast this as an absurdity was a case in Pennsylvania where the state is trying to stop farmer Amos Miller from selling his milk.

I can understand this argument from a high level, but we aren't talking about milk, we're talking about cocaine. A lot of cocaine. I do not appreciate the effort to conflate the two. I don't know if he believes his own arguments, or if he is just hoping that his audience does. If I were a member of the jury and this argument was used on me, I would probably lean closer to the death penalty, even if it isn't on the table.

As an aside, searching Amos Miller's case, it looks like that milk is apparently testing positive for listeria and E. coli, and he is being provided a valiant defense by Robert Barnes himself as his lawyer! Good luck with your efforts to keep potentially infected milk in the hands, stomachs, guts, and hearts of everyday Americans!
(Media Link 1 | Archive)
(Media Link 2 | Archive)
(PA AG Link | Archive)

@Hraf in the Rekieta criminal case thread did some research on the Amos Miller case.

Big shock, Barnes is as bloviating there as with Rekieta:

In an emailed statement, Miller's attorney, Robert Barnes, said: "The lawsuit by the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture is a disgrace to the rule of law, a flagrant violation of Constitutional liberty, and filled with false, fraudulent and perjurious statements by corrupt, out of control high ranking officials too often covered for by complicit media. Amos Miller's food is much healthier, much safer and much better for members, as they make informed consent decisions to choose, than the monopolized, industrialized food of big corporations the PDA is subservient to, and those members have a Constitutional right to get direct farm-to-consumer food they trust as members of a private association. We will respond to the food thieves, farm libelers, and Amish defamers of the PDA in court, and we will bring the truth, unlike the PDA, which feasts on a diet of libelous lies."

Per the allegations Amos Miller sold raw milk over state lines. This is illegal. Several e.coli cases and several possible deaths from listeria were linked to Amos Miller. He is a perpetual litigant as he will accept a settlement with the government and then not comply. Aww shucks, ya hona', I'm just some dumb Amish, I can't figure out all these legal things. Despite the fact that he's apparently opened multiple companies in his employees names to continue running his mail order raw milk "Private Member Association". Can the Amish use dry ice? How the hell are they shipping raw milk?

Barnes is the quintessential example of "If you have the facts, pound the facts, if you have the law, pound the law, if you have neither, pound the table." Though in Barnes's case it's pound conspiracy theories about the one world government in a case about food poisoning.

I'll also take Null's side here and say that raw milk cheese and milk tastes better but not getting E.Coli is better.

 

[annnanovichova]

Per the allegations Amos Miller sold raw milk over state lines. This is illegal. Several e.coli cases and several possible deaths from listeria were linked to Amos Miller. He is a perpetual litigant as he will accept a settlement with the government and then not comply. Aww shucks, ya hona', I'm just some dumb Amish, I can't figure out all these legal things. Despite the fact that he's apparently opened multiple companies in his employees names to continue running his mail order raw milk "Private Member Association". Can the Amish use dry ice? How the hell are they shipping raw milk?

Barnes is the quintessential example of "If you have the facts, pound the facts, if you have the law, pound the law, if you have neither, pound the table." Though in Barnes's case it's pound conspiracy theories about the one world government in a case about food poisoning.

I'll also take Null's side here and say that raw milk cheese and milk tastes better but not getting E.Coli is better.

Ooooohhhhhh... I knew there was something weird going on with this one. Especially because Barnes was twit-quoting weird people with weird theories about lactose intolerance: that lactose intolerance is a lie and we get it, because we DON'T drink raw milk or that there's lactase in raw milk produced by breasts. I mean I knew that American schools are a joke and I had my biochem classes some time ago, but I'm pretty sure if breasts produced an enzyme digesting the thing they produce, there would be no milk flowing. (I also didn't find any reasonable source of this claim and even had a friend search for it in the sci-paper's database she has access through her uni. Nothing). That the way to get rid of lactose intolerance is to drink more raw milk. Like dude, no.

ETA: In my childhood there was only raw milk and cheese, and I do confirm it tastes so much better. But I also confirm that it doesn't cure lactose intolerance, otherwise I wouldn't vomit every time I had milk since I was 3. Maybe my mum should've been more strict and make me drink it till I pass out so the cure takes? And I have the most normal regular one- I just don't produce lactase after infancy, the one that 70% of people have.


For thread completness- Barnes is a little bitch blocking opposing lawtubers. Me thinks there's- what was that his fave quote?- "admission through projection"?. I'm starting to suspect he isn't as squicky clean and Rekieta hit too close to home. Or he's trying to make it his next big scotus case and I hope Nick will let him.

They're eating their own kek
The lawtube collapse. Say whatever you want about Nick (may he lay in his own filth) but he was smart enough to not form a clique because they always always collapse. He just didn't predict HE would be the reason for that collapse lmao

 

[indomitable snowman]

Per the allegations Amos Miller sold raw milk over state lines. This is illegal. Several e.coli cases and several possible deaths from listeria were linked to Amos Miller. He is a perpetual litigant as he will accept a settlement with the government and then not comply. Aww shucks, ya hona', I'm just some dumb Amish, I can't figure out all these legal things. Despite the fact that he's apparently opened multiple companies in his employees names to continue running his mail order raw milk "Private Member Association". Can the Amish use dry ice? How the hell are they shipping raw milk?

Interesting didn't know that he was doing that.

I think people should be allowed to drink raw milk, but I also think that the producers should be liable for deaths or injuries. Shipping over state lines sounds insane as non pasteurized milk has a very short shelf life of 3-5 days max when kept in a cold refrigerator.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

Correct. There's no reality where they grant Trump immunity for pre-presidential actions.

Barnes is actually a retard.

Barnes is a retard and he's wrong. But the acts Trump was convicted were during his Presidency. It was multiple payments to Cohen after inauguration.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Barnes is a retard and he's wrong. But the acts Trump was convicted were during his Presidency. It was multiple payments to Cohen after inauguration.

The steel man argument for this is that the "underlying crime" was started and acted upon prior to the election. Money was wired on October 27th according to WSJ, so the planning and agreements would have to have happened before then, which is all prior to the elections in November. Therefore, the "record falsification" (and I'm using that term loosely here since payments to a lawyer labeled "legal fees" isn't the false people think of) is a continuation of the underlying crime.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

The steel man argument for this is that the "underlying crime" was started and acted upon prior to the election. Money was wired on October 27th according to WSJ, so the planning and agreements would have to have happened before then, which is all prior to the elections in November. Therefore, the "record falsification" (and I'm using that term loosely here since payments to a lawyer labeled "legal fees" isn't the false people think of) is a continuation of the underlying crime.

It's comical how his hubris constantly undermines him. If he'd just left it at "the judge flagrantly violated almost every right the defense is entitled to in a criminal trial, meaning the moment his appeal hits a fair court the conviction will almost certainly be vacated" he would have walked away from an easy W. But no, he has to one up everyone by running with this bullshit about that the SCOTUS decision on immunity applies to a case specifically designed to pre-empt presidential immunity.

I remember something similar happening when he went on infowars with Nick Fuentes. He got his point across, pledged not to disparage Nick Fuentes to his face, and came out of it looking good overall. But then he just had to pull a bitch move by talking shit online and hiding behind a blocklist. He came across as a complete coward. If he'd just done all his shit-talking in person he wouldn't have.

 

[Potatoherder]

The Rekieta civil war has gotten Andrew thinking about Viva and Barnes connection to rumble.

https://x.com/ffs2022/status/1797044432937922761

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/0ViTk

 

[East_Clintwood]

Personally I'm not convinced by the argument that V&B have some sort of super sekrit non-disparagement clause with Rumble. I think it's much more likely that Barnes is just a retard and the lawyer equivalent of "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail", and Viva is just a sycophant. That being said having them both tank their reputations defending creators on a platform that's on track to be dead in less than 18 months would be fucking hilarious.

 

[theshep]

I hit a raw nerve with my tweet obvs. Fuck him. What a dumb cunt. As the old saying goes "I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire".

 

[jalopy]

The Rekieta civil war has gotten Andrew thinking about Viva and Barnes connection to rumble.
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https://x.com/ffs2022/status/1797044432937922761

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/0ViTk

Rumble was a Canadian company before moving to Florida so perhaps it's all copacetic. Also, Barnes and Viva might have written the speech policy for Rumble or simply made suggestions to be reviewed.

Either way, it nice to see an escalation in the shit flinging. Especially since Andrew isn't some pure calf himself.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

So did barnes totally own the rest of lawtube and expose them as dumb lawyers and himself as the one true gigalawyer

 

[Tired Ted]

From the locals ep 213 stream:

Kiwibros, we're being slandered again!!!

About LEGUL MINDSET:

Coping and Sneeding about "Toxic Twitter" and LawTube:

About NateTheLawyer:

 

[Maude Snew]

From the locals ep 213 stream:

Kiwibros, we're being slandered again!!!
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About LEGUL MINDSET:
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Coping and Sneeding about "Toxic Twitter" and LawTube:
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About NateTheLawyer:
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I had my suspicions but now as they said I have "taken my time and done the research" and it is entirely clear to me that Robert Barnes is a fucking nigger. And he is using that vest to also hide the fact that he is a fat faggot with bitch tits. Sneed.

 

[Tired Ted]

Case 1 - The "covington kids" case:

He ended up representing some other kids, but not Nicholas Sandmann, but never bothers to clarify it when he talks about how he represented the "Covington kids".

Case 2 - The Wesley Snipes case:
A quick look at the relevant case article from the official website of the law firm who represented Wesley Snipes, called "The Bernhoft Law Firm, S.C."

Well where's our Big Shot Lawyer in the picture? Is he mentioned in the text?
The full site reveals that Barnes was only the side-kick to Robert Bernhoft, so much so that in the only video with him in it, he looks more like a bodyguard than anything else.
Bernhoft Law Website / Archive
Funnily enough, the bodyguard Barnes video is featured on Barnes Official Youtube Channel and has an interesting title: Shocking Wesley Snipes Acquittal on Tax Evasion by Barnes Law

 

[Barry McKockner]

The second you've essentially called jersh a pedo, you've lost the damn plot. I think last night is the first night ever I've actually turned off their stream.

 

[jalopy]

Kiwibros, we're being slandered again!!!

This moron realizes that we aren't trying anymore, we did, right?
Let's take a step back and ask how hypocritical it is for Barnes to be against the use of FOIA to get records of police actions. There is a possibility that the police exaggerated the state of residence, that it wasn't as dirty as they say and Aaron Imholte just ran with the claim. If so, wouldn't you want proof released of the police's claim?

How many times has Barnes spoken about the need for courts to be more transparent? Now, when people are actively pursuing transparency in a case he's on the other side of all his previous stances go to nought.

About LEGUL MINDSET

He moved to Korea initially, and is now hopping between countries playing visa games. Theory in the lawtube thread, with evidence, is that he ran up a bunch of credit card debt and then left the US. Barnes should really check the Farms, much better research than what he can do.
Has Andrew's place in Thailand even been doxed? Or is Barnes blowing more hot air?

Coping and Sneeding about "Toxic Twitter" and LawTube:

Huh, normally if you find jurisprudence you could reference it rather than pulling an "I'll show you! You'll See!"

About NateTheLawyer:

Does anyone know a good run down of that lawsuit? I think it was about tweets so I'm not shocked it didn't go anywhere.

He ended up representing some other kids, but not Nicholas Sandmann, but never bothers to clarify it when he talks about how he represented the "Covington kids".

I recall him talking shit about Sandmann as well. Claimed the kid was smug and asking for it. Now that I see these tweets, I see why.

Well where's our Big Shot Lawyer in the picture? Is he mentioned in the text?
The full site reveals that Barnes was only the side-kick to Robert Bernhoft, so much so that in the only video with him in it, he looks more like a bodyguard than anything else.

He's has a picture of him and Snipes behind him for years, and also constantly brings up this case as anecdotal proof of something. Big Wow, he's exaggerating his part in it as well.

 

[Fools Idol]

I think it's a great idea for Barnes to investigate LEGUL MINDSET and the Kiwi Farms.

 

[AnOminous]

How many times has Barnes spoken about the need for courts to be more transparent? Now, when people are actively pursuing transparency in a case he's on the other side of all his previous stances go to nought.

He has zero principles.