Wendigoon Thread

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DOUBLE REVIEW TIME! DOUBLE REVIEW TIME!
So kiwis, I did it. It took me a while I know but I decided to form my own opinions instead of allowing a YouTuber to tell me what to think of media. Now allow me to fed you my own opinions since I might as well be the willing-est consoomer of analog schlock.

Allow me to tell you from the get go that the reason I decided to watch both UrbanSpook and Greylock was not only for the dogpilling. Both of these series have drastically smaller followings than what you might believe and a good deal of the buzz they create is absorbed by horror creators explaining them. The top results I got for searching both series on YouTube weren't their respective entries but Wendigoon's video, which is itself a problem because even if it wasn't Wendigoon's intention he has connected both concepts in the minds of people that won't ever bother to check them out on their own as opposites in quality. Not only I can think of several analog horror concepts I believe have a worse execution than The Painter but I think that something that becomes very obvious once you sit and watch Greylock is that it has a drastically superior production than any other concept in the genre.
Returning to the several pieces that both received at the time I noticed something else. Greylock has gotten more pieces but it has drastically less attention than UrbanSpook, including two separate streams by Wendigoon in the last month or so. This actually soured me on giving Greylock a try because from that moment it felt like Wendi was just hyping one of his buddies up, something he has proved he isn't above doing.
On the other hand UrbanSpook's The Painter received less videos but more views by itself with most people praising the fact that it was way more grounded in reality and by consequence hit a lot harder than your run of the mill analog. It actually became quite obvious to me that up until the last entry, MEAT, even though everyone agreed it was too visceral it had little to no critics. That's right, a lot of people went from having no opinions on the guy to wanting his blood in the space of a month. Regardless of age, that's a lot to take in, specially in a sphere that elevates a lot of crap. Remember that the guy that called UrbanSpook the worst analog horror (in his opinion) also sang the praises of the South Park analog series. The oldest video against UrbanSpook is a 4 month old spanish speaking piece that barely cracked 8k views but to me at least, feels way more grounded than anything that has been posted in the horror channel thread.

With context out of the way and assuming you haven't watched either, I will proceed to give you my notes.

UrbanSPOOK: If there's a word that I would use for this one is EXPLICIT. I mean that about the story, the visuals, the concept, the execution, everything. I don't know if I'm showing my mileage here but to me this was like siting through a long true crime documentary. Yeah it churned my stomach when I was watching it but after I was done with it I could sleep well all the same because there's a very obvious fictional barrier. Each video in The Painter is done in a formulaic way: We learn of a new victim that was killed in a very creative way and there's a painting or paintings somewhere in the scene, the killer or killers leave some visual of themselves, roll the phone number to report them. I would argue that one of the comments left in the latest video says it best, if these fuckers don't get caught by next video this is getting ridiculous. UrbanSpook made two of the most distintive characters possible for his story, they get caught in camera multiple times, they leave DNA evidence and the police still have no idea who they are.
Through watching this I realized that the phone number that is plastered everywhere is from the bayeau and my mind instantly fluttered to True Detective Series 1. I think that how the killers get away with up to 30 murders so far would be more believeable if they targeted people in the outskirts of society and the paintings (which always include a name btw) were a memento to immortalize people that would have otherwise be forgotten even by those seeking justice for them. The fact the killers mostly go for law enforcement that is trying to catch them really throws the realism that is supposed to make the series so great off funk. The brutality and senselessness of the violence really remains as the anchor of the so called realism.
This leads into my next point. UrbanSpook knows The Painter is fucked up, that's why he puts at least two separate graphic content warnings in his videos. His fans know it, they talk about it in the comments. The whole point of The Painter is being fucked up. Why do people get mad at it and why now? You may heard that it has to do with rape but is a little more complicated in both a good and a bad way. MEAT, the latest entry, has one of the victims being a guy that was stabbed 470+ times and 4 of those stabs had seminal fluid in them. Digging those stabs showed photos of what I assumed is one of the killers wearing masks made out of the faces of previous victims. That's the context and now I will proceed to tell you why I actually got mad people choose this video instead of a previous one that I think is more fucked up but also overdone. PIGS, is my personal pick for the most fucked up UrbanSpook video but it also has such an overdone audio design that is hard to take it seriously. PIGS features an elderly man being killed and stuffed inside a pig carcass, his granddaughter is decapitated and her eyes are extracted and placed in the eye holes of the pig carcass but the kicker is what happens to his wife, raped to death by a horse overdosed on viagra. The painting for the old lady calls her mount, the one for the little girl calls her four holes. Make your judgement which one is worse because FAMILY is also a bad trip. That painting that everyone uses to represent him in thumbnails, the trippy gingerbread man looking thing?, that's named Fucktoy Cory and it's featured in the first video alongside even worse shit. With all of this said I think getting mad at UrbanSpook is like getting mad that a dog inside a pen with a warning bit you after messing with it.

Greylock: Right off the bad I noticed this one shouldn't be compared to any other analog horror series because that's unfair. Is so obvious whoever is behind this has resources and experience under their belt, like these people do know how to make the footage look like real VHS instead of just using shitty filters and some static. I can actually believe the Greylock tapes are real tapes because it is such a phenomenal job. Even the editing instantly made me think of someone reusing tapes unlike your spooky Powerpoints that mentioned a spooky thing and all goes zalgo and shit. The acting, the photography, the atmosphere, this actually made everything I watched afterwards feel like shit. The only negatives I have against it is how it used le scary rotting face during glitches but it becomes less prevalent as the series goes on and that the series is quite long so it is a major ask timewise
The premise is also very well put together and instantly made me feel the old /x/phile guard may warm up to it very easily because it does feel like a greatest hits of spooky threads minus fleshgaits or ayylmaos. If you think or know New England is creepy this is right up your alley. So far not everything seems connected but what is points to make your inner Mulder cream his trousers. So yeah, it makes Alex Kister look even more like a bitch.
 
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Okay finished the video, it was the usual analog horror of him sperging on the topic for 2 hours. I don't really get why he made the comparison with the obvious drama it's going to generate. I still don't see the point in Greylock. It goes way too hard into multiple subjects, like we have government conspiracy, evil corporation, ancient humans, mutations, biblical demons, ghosts. Like holy shit guys choose one to focus on.

Also wasn't the idea with the genre is that it's playing on supposedly innocent tapes while here it's basically a mish mash of found footage?
 
Okay finished the video, it was the usual analog horror of him sperging on the topic for 2 hours. I don't really get why he made the comparison with the obvious drama it's going to generate.
I think Wendi used Urbanspook as a stand in for any other "bad" analog horror series, but since the guy behind Urbanspook is considered a safe target he felt ok with complaining about the series. The vast majority of his issues with UrbanSpook can apply to any series.
Also wasn't the idea with the genre is that it's playing on supposedly innocent tapes while here it's basically a mish mash of found footage?
While that type of format was what got popular early on, the vast majority of the Memorable stuff takes the Found Footage route. I think Analog Horror is a Genre in the same way Horror is a Genre, you have similar ideas and intentions, but the content and way of telling the story change drastically.
 
Wendi uploaded an intro to the podcast channel. The corpse clause gives me a little hope. I still think the tone is going to be different than what he’s expecting but he says he’s open to whatever it turns into. We’ll see.
Not the only podcast that he’s starting.


He’s really on a decline, I miss the cool conspiracy/true crime stuff.
 
Okay finished the video, it was the usual analog horror of him sperging on the topic for 2 hours. I don't really get why he made the comparison with the obvious drama it's going to generate. I still don't see the point in Greylock. It goes way too hard into multiple subjects, like we have government conspiracy, evil corporation, ancient humans, mutations, biblical demons, ghosts. Like holy shit guys choose one to focus on.

Also wasn't the idea with the genre is that it's playing on supposedly innocent tapes while here it's basically a mish mash of found footage?
You hit the nail right in the head and this is what I meant with Greylock feeling like an /x/phile’s wet dream minus fleshgaits and ayylmaos. It’s way too much stuff.
So we got:
  • Fictitious government organ or private company in bed with the government that specializes in paranormal phenomena.
  • Shady experiments involving children or mentally disabled people that goes horribly wrong.
  • Tulpas and thoughtforms.
  • All events are centred in small town of picturesque but largely forgotten part of the USA.
  • TV hijackings with a Max Headroom incident reference.
  • Home invasion by what’s probably a cult.
  • Unexplained killings of babies and medical phenomena.
  • Company that sends blue collar employees to their own grave.
  • Evidence of cult older than anything else that somehow connects every civilization on Earth happens to be buried in overlooked place.
  • Extensive log by academic expert that explains everything. The academic is killed right after.
  • Unexplainable virus that mutated people into randomized deranged monsters.
  • Doors and other abstracts that are literal gates to metaphysical doom.
Yeah, this is lowkey a bingo but surprisingly only the tulpa stuff still exists on its own.
 
In the new Lore Lodge today, Aiden said Weird Bible is coming back Late January, Early Feb
Aidan has grown on me. He still comes off as a little full of himself, but their videos are good background noise while waiting for good new Wendigoon video to drop. My main complaint is that Aidan seems hellbent on letting us know he did research/read a book on the local indian tribe in a video focused on some drunk dude falling into a river. Would much rather have Wendi collaborate with them over any of his new associates.
 
My main complaint is that Aidan seems hellbent on letting us know he did research/read a book on the local indian tribe in a video focused on some drunk dude falling into a river.
This is my only compliant with the guy, I get the fact he finds Indian Folklore really interesting, But we don't need a 10 minute section about the whataba tribe and their slightly different tale of Bigfoot/Wendigo in a video about a 5 year old wandering off into the woods. Would be interesting as its own content, but shoving this stuff into every video feels forced.
 
Yeah, this is lowkey a bingo but surprisingly only the tulpa stuff still exists on its own.
After giving it an actual watch rather than having it as background noise, I'm inclined to agree that Greylock is trying to stuff too many cats into one bag, like it's trying to grab the biggest audience possible. I like the concept of experiments forcing people to somehow manifest monsters into reality, but execution wise it's kind of a mess and I think the confusion is covered up a bit by the naturally mysterious nature of how analog horror is told. It definitely needs to massively narrow focus because it's like they had a pitch meeting and kept everyone's opinion.
The pacing might be a problem too, maybe it wouldn't seem so overwhelming if there were more videos exploring their ideas and that would've given them a chance to bring it together better. Despite Wendi saying Urban's pacing was too much too fast, I thought Greylock had the same issue where they were too excited to show everything. That kind of rapid pacing is better with Urban's work anyway since he's all about shock value.
 
Not the only podcast that he’s starting.


He’s really on a decline, I miss the cool conspiracy/true crime stuff.
Is it just me or is there a decline in people when they start podcasts?

Also the market is oversaturated. Jesus fuck.

I guess I just model my musings after IHE and others completely abandoning their content / channels for podcasts.

Honestly I'm kinda sick of them.

You hit the nail right in the head and this is what I meant with Greylock feeling like an /x/phile’s wet dream minus fleshgaits and ayylmaos. It’s way too much stuff.
So we got:
  • Fictitious government organ or private company in bed with the government that specializes in paranormal phenomena.
  • Shady experiments involving children or mentally disabled people that goes horribly wrong.
  • Tulpas and thoughtforms.
  • All events are centred in small town of picturesque but largely forgotten part of the USA.
  • TV hijackings with a Max Headroom incident reference.
  • Home invasion by what’s probably a cult.
  • Unexplained killings of babies and medical phenomena.
  • Company that sends blue collar employees to their own grave.
  • Evidence of cult older than anything else that somehow connects every civilization on Earth happens to be buried in overlooked place.
  • Extensive log by academic expert that explains everything. The academic is killed right after.
  • Unexplainable virus that mutated people into randomized deranged monsters.
  • Doors and other abstracts that are literal gates to metaphysical doom.
Yeah, this is lowkey a bingo but surprisingly only the tulpa stuff still exists on its own.
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What the hell is all this? They just threw the entire kitchen sink in there, huh? Next they're gonna add fucking all 72 demons of the Ars Goetia or something.

am i the only one that gives less than a tenth of a fuck about le vhs creepypastas and just wants more videos about murder coverups involving "suicide by dog eating your entire head"? where have THOSE gone?!
But the zoomers get the zoomies over their les heccing analog horror! They need more media to write gay fanfics about
 
Is it just me or is there a decline in people when they start podcasts?
Podcasting requires less effort and still brings in the big bucks. It's gay, but when people are in it for the money it's the logical choice. The issue with podcasting and streaming is that it's much easier to see the real person, warts and all, and not the persona created though the script and editing magic.
 
Podcasting requires less effort and still brings in the big bucks. It's gay, but when people are in it for the money it's the logical choice. The issue with podcasting and streaming is that it's much easier to see the real person, warts and all, and not the persona created though the script and editing magic.
It's kinda funny because sometimes it completely backfires. There's a YouTuber whose backlog of trashing shitty horror films and bootlegs I occasionally watch because they are pretty good. Suddenly he just stopped doing that and went to podcasting and reaction shit and his views fucking tanked hard.

He went from floating between 50k-100k views per video to less than 10k.

It sucks because his scripted content was very amusing but oh well. That's the price he gets.
 
Late on this, but I just watched his video on the Monument Mythos. Good lord is that shit cringe, how the hell did it ever get so popular? The obvious answer is zoomies, but holy shit do they have a bad taste in horror. Hard to call it scary even, this is like a shitty SCP split-off universe that essentially serves as fan fiction environment for the author(s), you know the one. I was hoping to at least get to see what funny shit DRUMPF would get up to since half the appeal seems to be name dropping historical figures and presidents into the shitty fanfiction but I didn't even get that much. That bit with Musk was funny at least because I could definitely see him doing that.
There is another video that is 3+ hours long and summarized in less than half an hour, I can only imagine wasting that much more time on it.
Overall, zoomies suck and I bet that Mister Manticore guy is a lolcow, at least I seen mentioned as such in the sharty thread(the parody posted there is much better than anything he actually made btw)

Down the drain along with the monetization. Also, it was attracting what Wendi thought was the wrong kind of crowd.
I wonder what kind of crowd he thought he would attract, then. Shame, those are genuinely his best videos, that and his religious ones. Stuff like Yuba 5, Unit 731, going over Dante's poems/Paradise Lost or delving into Waco is what I watch his content for, the fake nu-horror stuff I avoid for the same reason I don't go on modern SCP or /x/ anymore.
 
Aidan has grown on me. He still comes off as a little full of himself, but their videos are good background noise while waiting for good new Wendigoon video to drop. My main complaint is that Aidan seems hellbent on letting us know he did research/read a book on the local indian tribe in a video focused on some drunk dude falling into a river. Would much rather have Wendi collaborate with them over any of his new associates.
I watched follow up stream to that video and he said he believes there is some secret internet community that is active since dawn of internet and is responsible for smiley face murders. And it remained secret for all this years.
Hes got some really wild theories.

Podcast I am talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/live/WgsTMBdaGbc?si=1qjyHio3U7Z2RNmO
Edit: I am unable to embed it. So I will just post link.
 
I mean, the Internet was mainly used by the military before it began being available to the general public, Tor notwithstanding. Wouldn't be all that surprising if there were shady people banding together. Sounds interesting regardless.
 
You hit the nail right in the head and this is what I meant with Greylock feeling like an /x/phile’s wet dream minus fleshgaits and ayylmaos. It’s way too much stuff.
So we got:
  • Fictitious government organ or private company in bed with the government that specializes in paranormal phenomena.
  • Shady experiments involving children or mentally disabled people that goes horribly wrong.
  • Tulpas and thoughtforms.
  • All events are centred in small town of picturesque but largely forgotten part of the USA.
  • TV hijackings with a Max Headroom incident reference.
  • Home invasion by what’s probably a cult.
  • Unexplained killings of babies and medical phenomena.
  • Company that sends blue collar employees to their own grave.
  • Evidence of cult older than anything else that somehow connects every civilization on Earth happens to be buried in overlooked place.
  • Extensive log by academic expert that explains everything. The academic is killed right after.
  • Unexplainable virus that mutated people into randomized deranged monsters.
  • Doors and other abstracts that are literal gates to metaphysical doom.
Yeah, this is lowkey a bingo but surprisingly only the tulpa stuff still exists on its own.
This is my biggest problem with Greylock, the sheer lack of a central focus. UrbanSpook' webseries may not be perfect, but at least Painter centers itself around the Pair of Killers and the mayhem they cause. Greylock on the other hand, can't decide if it wants to a Government Conspiracy, Demon Invasion (aka Mandela Catalogue), Virus Pandemic etc. The whole webseries comes off as a incoherent mess
 
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