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[Colon capital V]

Oh yeah, forgot to post that "The Wire" was also found some time ago. It was a lost Cartoon Network short from 1996, audio's pretty fucked but it's pretty much all there (short starts at 20:50)

https://vimeo.com/856508511/9b3e824e60

 

[Life is Hell...]

I just finished watching Tiny Toons Looniversity, and yeah... it's pretty shit. A lot of it is just really bland, some of the voices are very grating to listen to, and overall it's just not a very pleasant experience.

There's also something interesting i noticed as well...

Spoiler

Original Leak.

Final Epsiode.

 

[Anonitolia]

I just finished watching Tiny Toons Looniversity, and yeah... it's pretty shit. A lot of it is just really bland, some of the voices are very grating to listen to, and overall it's just not a very pleasant experience.

There's also something interesting i noticed as well...

Spoiler

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Original Leak.

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Final Epsiode.

serious question
why on earth did you watch that entire show if you knew it was going to be bad
and not even the "so bad it's good" kind of bad, either- just straight-up awful shit with the only notable thing about it being propaganda (which isn't even notable because every fucking show has it now)

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Even going beyond reboots, it seems like good shows like Mao Mao and Gumball are cancelled I haven't heard anything about the Gumball movie)

The Gumball Movie seems to be canceled. I also heard that it was not a liked project and was put together from a WB mandate for HBO Max content. If the movie was a cash grab, then it is not a big loss in my eyes.

Isn't Teen Titans Go! still running for example?

Going to have a season 10 and mega-WB crossover come late September. Cannot even be mad, TTG is the only reboot with any bite and thus the only profitable thing WB/CN has past Adventure Time nowadays.

Is quality too expensive or do they just hate it?

Yes and Yes! WB, Disney and others barely have cash these days. The market for animation is also dwindling due to the sheer lack of care post 05. Nick killed anything that wasn’t SpongeBob for 15 years, Disney has always been way to safe, and WB is too prone to leadership changes to make anything stick. As a result, they couldn’t get most adults to stick around, nor can they reach a new audience of kids.

This may also be part of the reason anime has become popular in recent years, since some good shows are produced.

Speaking of anime, it both made and killed western animation. Much of the West was able to ride off anime when it was airing on CN. Action shows in particular did well when next to DBZ. In comes the internet and a new method to watch without scheduling and suddenly western shows have little following. From there, a good chunk of genres go extinct.

 

[Anonitolia]

TTG is the only reboot with any bite

worst true sentence I've heard all year

 

[Life is Hell...]

serious question
why on earth did you watch that entire show if you knew it was going to be bad
and not even the "so bad it's good" kind of bad, either- just straight-up awful shit with the only notable thing about it being propaganda (which isn't even notable because every fucking show has it now)

Mainly out of curiosity, I've watched many other bad cartoons just for the hell of it (Clone High Season 2, Craig of the Creek, We Baby Bears, etc.) And I figured i'd watch this in it's entirety as well.

 

[Quiet Guy]

The Gumball Movie seems to be canceled. I also heard that it was not a liked project and was put together from a WB mandate for HBO Max content. If the movie was a cash grab, then it is not a big loss in my eyes.

The ending of the series was pretty bad, and I wish they would at least tie up the series with a decent movie, so there could be closure, but perhaps they would screw it up if they did.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

worst true sentence I've heard all year

I've seen hefty chunks of it and despite not being a fan parts, small parts, of TTG are watchable and some may even border on good in my highly critical opinion.
There is effort there. I might not like a lot of what that effort yields but apparently a lot do.

 

[Byte Doctor]

I think the thing is with Teen Titans GO! is that it is very popular with kids and thus CN knows this and thus it gets more seasons greenlit. Compared to the other shows atleast TTG isn't trying to shove an agenda in kids faces or anything. Serving at best an inoffensive comedy show for kids. I think another show that gets hate is modern spongebob. But, I can commend that the more recent seasons atleast have really nice animation. Even though, ToonTubers would like to say otherwise and call it bad because too much movement.

 

[Yamma Damma]

Barely new animation from mainstream but plenty is popping up online. Which is a good thing until the industry can clean up their acts.

Gentlemen please the Man has passed away today. Let's not fight over what decade his music was more relevant too. Let's honor him in a way he should be remembered. As such if I may.

Rip Steve Harwell

That was a great capoff to a good episode too. RIP to a good one.
i'd pour one out for him but he died of alcohol abuse.

I'm surprised I just now heard about this. Living Pixel art god and actual insane person Paul Robertson is making a new show. For context he's the guy that did all the pixel art for Scott Pilgrim, animated Rumble McSkirmish and Gifany in Gravity Falls, a bunch of adult swim bumps, if there's a pixel art scene in a cartoon he probably did it.

I'm amazed he actually got something off the ground considering his last pilot Elvis and Dimmi wasn't well received.

Paul Robertson is very fucking weird and I'm glad it's not just him writing this thing.

Oh yeah that guy is Jhonen Vasquez levels of weird but so goddamn good at what he does you bypass it. But weird visuals can only go so far in a series with plot and shit. Good luck to him (and his equally weird co-creator).

Oh boy. I can't wait for all the naked girls, guro and religious iconography.
Even if it ain't that. Non-pixelshit art is definately a rare treat.

Judging by his co-creator's Twitter X page, it's gonna be more of that and then some.

Seems Rebecca Sugar now has a TikTok account apparently.
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Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@rebecca.sugar

Only in animation threads like this one (usually to point out what not to do in storytelling haha) and literally whos on social media posting rule34 of the gems and talking about their "gender/sexual awakenings".

But other than that? Nope. You came, you saw, you conquered (more or less, hate to admit it but a gay wedding was notable albeit unnecessary), you left, you came back, you revisited the old conquest and fucked it up (SUFuture) then fucked off. Go back to fucking off, Sugar.

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Should LAIKA be part of the group too? They have hit after flop and hit after flop but all of them are technical masterpieces.

serious question
why on earth did you watch that entire show if you knew it was going to be bad
and not even the "so bad it's good" kind of bad, either- just straight-up awful shit with the only notable thing about it being propaganda (which isn't even notable because every fucking show has it now)

Same reason you watch anything: you're bored and want to be entertained. For better or for worse. Not to mention after a while, reviewers aren't enough to satisfy curiosity.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Mainly out of curiosity, I've watched many other bad cartoons just for the hell of it (Clone High Season 2, Craig of the Creek, We Baby Bears, etc.) And I figured i'd watch this in it's entirety as well.

My ma always said to me when i was a spud, "you can't say you honestly hate something without experiencing it."


But the main problem with Tiny toons looniversity is it has an identity crisis and doesnt know what it wants to be. Does it wasnt to be a continuation cause while the characters arent much older aside sweetie. they go to acme loo which is now a literal university as opposed to the middle/high school it was originally written as. Does it want to be a reboot that does things differntly with the whole making babs and buster actually related this time? It's a mess and I dont see it living past the two season crap it was ordered for when it turns out nobody is watching. Old school fans are pissed its nothing like they remember and kids don't care, i think they'd rather watch the original than the new ones, even if its slower paced than their tiny brains are used to it's more amusing than this crap.


Oh one last thing was rereading batman adventures mad love...found the perfect panel to sum up tiny toons post 95 almost like Bruce and Timm knew how bad things would get.

 

[Fag Albert]

I went on a deep dive through some old adult swim pilots and found this. Opinions on Eltingville? Never read the comic strip it came from so I can't speak for accuracy but i feel like it would have been funny as fuck had it gotten a season or two during the 2000's, maybe closer to when Big Bang Theory was white hot. I think it'd need a very delicate touch these days to be done without coming off as incredibly bitter.

 

[Shidoen]

I went on a deep dive through some old adult swim pilots and found this. Opinions on Eltingville? Never read the comic strip it came from so I can't speak for accuracy but i feel like it would have been funny as fuck had it gotten a season or two during the 2000's, maybe closer to when Big Bang Theory was white hot. I think it'd need a very delicate touch these days to be done without coming off as incredibly bitter.

This is my first time watching it and I affirm it's the greatest piece of animated work that ever could have graced Adult Swim.

 

[Niggerphobe]

Craig of the Creek, We Baby Bears,

we baby bears feels like they are going to pull it was all in their head at the end and Craig is just su 2

 

[Shidoen]

we baby bears feels like they are going to pull it was all in their head at the end and Craig is just su 2

You know funny thing is that I didn't know about I met one of the we baby bears voice actors just recently, Connor Andrade who voiced Grizz. The reason I met him was because I wanted to meet his father Dino Andrade who voiced a lot of World of Warcraft characters (The Gnomes and Professor Putricide). He seemed like a nice kid and his father was nice too, so I doubt this show and its crew have anything behind the scenes going on. I wouldn't eliminate the possibility though, I think it's less likely since this is not a Nickelodeon project.

 

[Yeshuash]

I went on a deep dive through some old adult swim pilots and found this. Opinions on Eltingville? Never read the comic strip it came from so I can't speak for accuracy but i feel like it would have been funny as fuck had it gotten a season or two during the 2000's, maybe closer to when Big Bang Theory was white hot. I think it'd need a very delicate touch these days to be done without coming off as incredibly bitter.

It's pretty faithful to the comics. However, I don't know if it would be succesful nowadays. The comics themselves are VERY cynical of comic book nerd culture and all except one of the main characters are irredeemable assholes.

Netflix just has to Netflix!

 

[A Grey Cat]

Shows were better when they were writing stories based on what their children experienced, and what life lessons they wanted to impart.

That's why I respect Molly Mcgee a bit more than I do other shows. Granted that show is far from perfect and still has current year moments. (Those two gay ghosts, that one moment on davenports downfall, the introduction of June Chen being literally "I'm Autistic, please be patient with me. ")

It's still first and foremost a show about a girl and a ghost going on zany adventures and Molly is still written like an actual kid. She solves her problems the way a kid would, would a sense of optimism and a can do spirit. We're it not for those aforementioned "current year momments." I'd say the shows on par with Chris Savino Era loud house or season 1 adventure time.

First of all, if a romance has unfortunate implications them don't fucking write it. In case of Bubblegum at least it was apperant she sees herself more as Finn's mom while he thinks of her as a love interest due to not really understanding what he is going through. But with Flame Princess it was just relationship drama that is way too complicated for kids, and set the modern standard of any modern animation kicking the balls of any man trying to get into a opposite sex relationship while not keeping the same standard for girls (that are usually lesbian because god forbid the creator waifu gets violated).

And that is why I'm amazed Disney green lit Haileys on it, a show where the idea is a girl has to kiss a boy she likes to save the world or something like that. (Haven't watched it properly yet if only cause my corner of the high seas still has no episodes available) but hey the support cast consists of a dangerhair black gender special and a "lesbo" who barley looks like she could spell lesbianism in a spelling bee. Guess that evens it out doesn't it Disney?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

And that is why I'm amazed Disney green lit Haileys on it, a show where the idea is a girl has to kiss a boy she likes to save the world or something like that. (Haven't watched it properly yet if only cause my corner of the high seas still has no episodes available) but hey the support cast consists of a dangerhair black gender special and a "lesbo" who barley looks like she could spell lesbianism in a spelling bee. Guess that evens it out doesn't it Disney?

I think what those writers don't understand in relation to romance in children cartoons is that children usually try to emulate parents connection, leading yo very pure relationships without the sexual part. But the writers, either due to having an unstable house life or coomerism, can't make that distinction.

But even worse is that, due to decades of brain washing, writers think same sex relationships being "the real pure relationships" despite being far more sexual and selfish by both definition and statistics.

 

[Shidoen]

It's pretty faithful to the comics. However, I don't know if it would be succesful nowadays. The comics themselves are VERY cynical of comic book nerd culture and all except one of the main characters are irredeemable assholes.

it seems to have been accurate back then and even now it’s very accurate, despite the infiltration nerd culture suffered.

 

[UCT]

Oh yeah, forgot to post that "The Wire" was also found some time ago. It was a lost Cartoon Network short from 1996, audio's pretty fucked but it's pretty much all there (short starts at 20:50)

https://vimeo.com/856508511/9b3e824e60

I’m shocked and kinda depressed how well I remembered a lot of those commercials. Bros I miss the 90s….