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I guess the former USSR merged all these into one shared lump.
Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)
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This is coming from someone who only got a subscription while it was airing.
It was decent for the first two seasons, then it starts to shit the bed by keeping in Shiro. The only two decent characters were a tomboy incarnation of Pidge and Hunk.
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The series wasn't bad and had a decent start, even though it had what most reboot trends did of racebending / genderbending characters who were previously white or a guy respectively but it floundered around sometime after the third season and only got worse.
The best thing this show did after its creators did attempt at pandering to Tumblr, even including Netflix hyping up their LGBTQAXYZ character so much that in the final season their fujoshi ship wasn't made Canon and the characters apart of it never were gay for each other.
The salt outpour was glorious when they were denied.
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Now that's a face that screams "I rape kids".
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I don't know why this is a thing, I just know that I hate it.
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Bro, are you serious? It was just Bolin having gained weight to play the part. From Korra? He was insufferable.
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Late and gay but just wanted to clear this up.
DuchAss Markle's canned cartoon was called "Pearl" and was some feminist shit that sounded like what "Sophia the First" was: famous adult women mentoring a young girl in hopes she'll be great like them. The canned "Boons & Curses" was the PC genderfluid dumpster trying to be HP like everyone else. Same garbage, different garbage tossers.
DuchAss Markle's canned cartoon was called "Pearl" and was some feminist shit that sounded like what "Sophia the First" was: famous adult women mentoring a young girl in hopes she'll be great like them. The canned "Boons & Curses" was the PC genderfluid dumpster trying to be HP like everyone else. Same garbage, different garbage tossers.
The designs are fucking cursed but the "futuristic" animation isn't technically bad. It's more expressive with more frames of animation to help it. And there's differing camera angles and zooms unlike it's inspiration SU which was plagued with "the only animation is in their mouths like it's anime" and the infamous "shot-reverse-shot".
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Stephen Hillenburg did not pass away for this. I don’t even get the point of this fan made cartoon.
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It was officially posted so it makes it more than just some fan-made thing, if it was just some fan thing then it wouldn't be as interesting and as weird.
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- Squidward looks like a weirdo in a shirt with suction cups rather than an actual octopus
- Patrick looks like someone socked him in the face and his mouth is swollen because of it
- background is simplified and "shiny". HAS FUCKING CLOUDS IN THE OCEAN. Shadows and lights used as minimal as possible. No detail of the ocean wave light hitting squidwards house.
- FPS is cut in half for... reasons. Animation is doing more actions but is simultaniously showing less.
- Roku remote because "lol nobody watches cable tv anymore"
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I think it's just the Seinfeld effect, all the edge is gone and the things it pioneered have long since become a mainstay of the medium.
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
Synthesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
Repeat until perfected.
It's putting more emphasis on the animation to distract you from how bad the character designs are.
Life is Hell...
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I'm honestly glad we avoided another HGS situation with that show.
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so a gayer, more annoying Owl House? got it.
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Even as someone that did enjoy SU years ago I feel like personally beating whoever made this abomination. It feels wrong, it looks wrong, it is wrong. It doesn't even feel like SpongeBob was adapted to the art style, it feels like SU characters flayed SpongeBob and are prancing around Buffalo Bill style.
We are supposed to be at the pinnacle of human creativity, at least in media. That is at least what we are consistently told. Today, thousands of creatives from all sorts of backgrounds work in entertainment. We should be seeing an explosion in techniques, styles, and stories to reflect it.
How is it that at the time we are supposed to be at our most inclusive and diverse we have managed to all say and do the same? Is not even how Campbell foretold it.
We are not just repeating the same set of stories.
Everything looks the same, everything feels the same.
Everything feels wrong.
There are fewer artists in the world and thus it feels empty. We have reached the invisible walls that border the known and some have returned to the rig, satisfied with knowing there is nothing left to know. There are only 3s. There are no edges. There is only beanmouth.
As we sit at the top of a hill we were never meant to climb we can see the world. It is empty but from the outside, it looks beautiful. It looks peaceful with its insignificant battles and its imperfect normalcy.
Only we see there's no wall.
There is a boundary.
There is a challenge.
Create. Create until time itself numbs your wits. Create while you still can. Even if your hands, your feet, and your tongue have been taken away you must create. Even if the entire cosmos doesn't know you once were here. Create for yourself, create for others, share it if you can, and treasure it because you must.
Create because if you don't they will. They don't care about only being able to create around themselves, around their most basic instincts and characteristics. Don't allow your insecurities to stop you, because they didn't matter to them.
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Part of the answer is, quite frankly, capitalism. But that is only part of the answer. Capitalism ruled the American economic system and culture for a long time, and many fine works were produced then.
The answer is really the techniques. There are fewer companies than there used to be, and so few people taking chances on odd things. For example, the Cannon Group, back in the 80s, was all over the map - they produced mindless action sequels and art films by Jean-Luc Godard and Andrei Konchalovsky.
The executives themselves are part of the problem. In the old days, no one could tell what would become popular. No one knew what the public would go for, so they kept throwing darts - greenlighting movies and series. Some hit, many missed. But now they have it down to a science. Things are so micro-managed you can't get much that seems original. It's all about making the big bucks.
There's also a strange cargo-cult mindset going around with old stuff. We worship it but we don't know how to do what they did - we just badly imitate them and not follow in their footsteps.
Would culture improve if executives went back to greenlighting any dumb idea and letting people do what they wanted with it? Could the future of animation be in projects outside the business mainstream? Maybe. I'm no Cassandra.
If you don't buy that, I have a theory of sorts that we are replicating a decay seen in the culture produced in Eastern Europe as it transitioned from communism to capitalism - when the industries there took a hit they never recovered from. Only that makes me worried where we're going to be headed in a few decades from now...
(Oh, and Campbell played a big role in all that sameness of stories you're talking about, but that's another story.)
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To build on what I said last night, however, there is an optimistic part of all this. You can't just consume the same thing over and over again. You're going to want something new. And there's a hundred years of history on film waiting to be rediscovered.
Over the last few years I have seen things become popular on the Internet that I could never imagine would become broadly liked - the Moomins, the Hungarian bunny-in-the-suitcase cartoons, the Richard Williams Raggedy Ann film. Just today I found that Stupid Invaders, a game based on the old Fox Kids show Space Goofs, has spawned its very own meme:
Now imagine some kid on TikTok or something liking the meme. Maybe they'll want to see where it came from - and maybe they'll find something new in the process. And once their curiosity is awakened, they might even find more. And voila, your horizon is broadened.
But will this lead to the new creatives making more interesting things with a wider palette of influences? Well, again, we'll have to see...
Over the last few years I have seen things become popular on the Internet that I could never imagine would become broadly liked - the Moomins, the Hungarian bunny-in-the-suitcase cartoons, the Richard Williams Raggedy Ann film. Just today I found that Stupid Invaders, a game based on the old Fox Kids show Space Goofs, has spawned its very own meme:
Now imagine some kid on TikTok or something liking the meme. Maybe they'll want to see where it came from - and maybe they'll find something new in the process. And once their curiosity is awakened, they might even find more. And voila, your horizon is broadened.
But will this lead to the new creatives making more interesting things with a wider palette of influences? Well, again, we'll have to see...
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I wouldn't say Capitalism, but rather Nepotism (which is usually the latter stages of uncontrolled/government-sponsored capitalism). The people that got to where they are by skill didn't prepare a new generation or teach techniques. Instead they just hired whoever (literally) sucked their cock the most, leading eventually to studios filled with incompetent dicksuckers and ruled by whatever alpha bitch sucked the most cocks.
Besides that the education shifted to allowing talentless diversity hires to be accepted, so standards dipped to 10 year old draw ability and use of light colours to make the autists fill comfortable.
Finally there was zero competition, the industry became completely stagnant and consoomers would watch whatever shit was thrown their way irregardless of how bad it looks.