What Happens If Chris Actually Does Improve?

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The Knife's Husbando said:
I've often wondered if Christine ever thought of rebooting her life- I mean dropping off the internet for a couple of years, saving up her money, and then moving far away. It's been done before.

I'll admit it'd be difficult as fuck, but it'd be a fresh drama-free start.
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That would be a perfect and fitting idea.
 
As much as I'd like him to just calm down and have a non-eventful life, I don't think he can. Chris is just too Autism to not try to rally hoards of drag queens and classmates to fight holy wars in the name of cartoon characters from the 90s.
 
yawning sneasel said:
Arm's length is the theme of any relationship Chris has, though. No one really has genuinely accepted him and been interested in him and accepted him with genuinely open arms. Some may say Rocky or Anna have, however it appears he is more of a chore that they take on for their own benefit. I say this because I really do not know what he could have in common with either of them to make them want to be close to him.
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Anna's motivations are murky. Chris certainly thinks she's a friend, but as far as I'm aware she keeps her involvement in his life to a minimum. She screens potential trolls, but I strongly suspect there's an element of "No! MINE!" about that. Beyond that, she seems to alternate between ass-patting and mild trolling. I guess that's why she hates Kim so much, she has the same routine.

As for Rocky, I think it's a genuine sense of obligation to her parishioners. I don't get the impression that she's a friend per se, but she does seem to help them out above and beyond the call of duty. As with so many of Chris' friends, she's only a friend while she's helping him out.
 
Tragi-Chan said:
Anna's motivations are murky. Chris certainly thinks she's a friend, but as far as I'm aware she keeps her involvement in his life to a minimum. She screens potential trolls, but I strongly suspect there's an element of "No! MINE!" about that. Beyond that, she seems to alternate between ass-patting and mild trolling. I guess that's why she hates Kim so much, she has the same routine.

As for Rocky, I think it's a genuine sense of obligation to her parishioners. I don't get the impression that she's a friend per se, but she does seem to help them out above and beyond the call of duty. As with so many of Chris' friends, she's only a friend while she's helping him out.
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I 100% agree. Anna plays both sides of the fence, which is fine, but let's not confuse her with someone who legitimately cares about Chris. I have to wonder when profiles like "Kim" and whatever else is out there will eventually die off. Chris is in his mid-30s and this stuff has been going on for 6-7 years. Can it go on another 10? 20?
 
yawning sneasel said:
I 100% agree. Anna plays both sides of the fence, which is fine, but let's not confuse her with someone who legitimately cares about Chris. I have to wonder when profiles like "Kim" and whatever else is out there will eventually die off. Chris is in his mid-30s and this stuff has been going on for 6-7 years. Can it go on another 10? 20?
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Depends if he keeps doing weird stuff. His lolcow status seems to be the attraction. If he just posted about boring shit, then I think Kengle, Anna and Kim would move on. But even if he stopped being a lolcow, he'd always have somebody trying to prod him into doing something stupid.
 
yawning sneasel said:
Can it go on another 10? 20?
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Of course! I don't see Chris's quest for China stopping for the next 10 or 20 years, and his ego combined with desperation makes him more gullible to fake gal pals than to any other fake thing, perhaps except maybe that one fake Sega letter from not too long ago.
 
yawning sneasel said:
I 100% agree. Anna plays both sides of the fence, which is fine, but let's not confuse her with someone who legitimately cares about Chris.
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Anna's concern for Chris is genuine. It's just that she's very dumb, has a lot of her own problems, and there's very little she can do for Chris from halfway across the country. (Y'know, aside from trying to displace trolls by arguing with them.)
 
I respect what you have to say a whole lot, Marvin. I just cannot see any evidence of genuine care. We have talked about this before and I really didn't come away with any evidence that would indicate that she cares.
 
yawning sneasel said:
I respect what you have to say a whole lot, Marvin. I just cannot see any evidence of genuine care. We have talked about this before and I really didn't come away with any evidence that would indicate that she cares.
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If anything, I think she just tolerates him out of pity like his high school gal pals
 
Haesindang Park said:
Well, he's improving a little but if he changes that far, we'll give him a round of applause and he might type a book about his life with autism and sell them for more money. He'll make more friends too. Too bad the possibility of that happening is near impossible at this rate.
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If he was wanting to make money from his internet misadventures he'd probably be better getting a professional ghost writer and have them focus it on internet bullying (Including the online documentation on his life/real life encounters with trolls) and hope someone like Oprah features it.

But anyway Chris is slowly improving (He's going out to clubs) which if you look at other lolcows is quite good going, I think it's very unlikely he'll get a job though (Seriously who is going to hire Chris over someone else plus with his autism he's not going to suddenly want to change his lifestyle), I'm probably being incredibly optimistic but I think it's possible for him to get a girlfriend but he'd probably need therapy and realize relationships aren't all about what he wants.

One thing I think he could do to make money is take advantage of his notoriety and start making youtube videos again (With comments disabled and monetization turned on) and make videos doing whatever he likes doing such as Lego/video game reviews or something and if he wants to be really cheap internet fundraise the cost of every Lego set or video game he reviews, at the very least Kengle would probably pay for it.
 
Pickle Inspector said:
If he was wanting to make money from his internet misadventures he'd probably be better getting a professional ghost writer and have them focus it on internet bullying (Including the online documentation on his life/real life encounters with trolls) and hope someone like Oprah features it.
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I'd like to be a fly on the hoard when someone tries to explain to him that it isn't actually a ghost writing the book.
 
Pickle Inspector said:
One thing I think he could do to make money is take advantage of his notoriety and start making youtube videos again (...)
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This fact alone makes Chris pretty stupid, not to A-Log, but people like him that doesn't take advantage of their E-Fame is tards in my book. Maybe this fits better in the random questions thread, but didn't he, like, have alot of views in the day when he was as most notorious? I don't care if they have something wrong in their heads, not seeing this opportunity alone makes them stupid.

Edit: Since when did A logg become Nice Bloke?
 
Chris is at least somewhat capable of changing his life, as an adult(in his fucking 30s) but his mindset is almost all of what brings him down. It's sounds obvious I know, but even with autism he can have a possible chance of changing.

However, he probably needs to escape his environment whenever possible more than anything. Will that fully reform him or even reform him signifcantly? Yes and No. Aside from obviously needing to wake up to reality like we've been insisting him to do for years, the people he surrounds himself with is affecting him the most, causing the turn for the worst. His mom is abusive and probably belongs in an insane asylum, everyone he talks to tolerates him at best, keeping contact at minimal and is missing out on people that may possibly actually care about Chris's well-being when they understand what was going on with him his whole life.
 
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If Chris improves, that would be wonderful.
The CWC could remain as a testament of Chris' "Before" so it could be used as the best motivational example ever- his "before" phase compared to his "After", aka improved life.

I, for one, would love to see that happening: Chris finding peace and a place on society so he could live his remaining years the best way it could be possible for him.
 
i don't mean this to be insulting but i think if chris did "get better," this place by-and-large would either fail to recognize the improvement, ignore it, or somehow re-frame it as a different kind of failure.

this entire place is predicated on the belief that chris is going to do stupid stuff on the internet and we're gonna be there to watch/discuss the perpetually slow-motion trainwreck as it happens. it's an entire structure designed to observe chris floundering his way through real life, and if (by some miracle) he stopped floundering and started going through the motions like normal, it's nearly impossible to imagine everybody here packing their bags and going "well, he's okay now, time to move on!" the observational structure of this place is still here, and it allows us to keep up this practice of documenting chris' strange life if we keep processing everything he does as strange.

then you combine that with the fact that, at least from what i've read in my shorter time here, people seem to have pretty strange ideas about what "improvement" really looks like for chris. as marvin has pointed out elsewhere in the thread, this idea that "improvement" for chris is equivalent to him becoming a normie only improves chris' life in a superficial sense and likely results in him being completely miserable. getting a job, getting his own place, throwing away his legos and killing his online identity... this stuff isn't going to make him happier, it's going to make him look "improved" to a community of people who follow his movements on the internet.
would chris' reversion to his assigned gender at birth be an "improvement?" would full SRS be an "improvement?" are the answers to these questions rooted in your (our) belief in what would make chris happy, or what would make chris seem "normal" to you (us)?

these are rhetorical questions, by the way, i don't mean to derail the thread with chris-tran shitposts

like i said, i don't mean this to come off as accusatory or dismissive or whatever, this is just kind of the sense i get.
 
nude tayne said:
i don't mean this to be insulting but i think if chris did "get better," this place by-and-large would either fail to recognize the improvement, ignore it, or somehow re-frame it as a different kind of failure.

this entire place is predicated on the belief that chris is going to do stupid stuff on the internet and we're gonna be there to watch/discuss the perpetually slow-motion trainwreck as it happens. it's an entire structure designed to observe chris floundering his way through real life, and if (by some miracle) he stopped floundering and started going through the motions like normal, it's nearly impossible to imagine everybody here packing their bags and going "well, he's okay now, time to move on!" the observational structure of this place is still here, and it allows us to keep up this practice of documenting chris' strange life if we keep processing everything he does as strange.

then you combine that with the fact that, at least from what i've read in my shorter time here, people seem to have pretty strange ideas about what "improvement" really looks like for chris. as marvin has pointed out elsewhere in the thread, this idea that "improvement" for chris is equivalent to him becoming a normie only improves chris' life in a superficial sense and likely results in him being completely miserable. getting a job, getting his own place, throwing away his legos and killing his online identity... this stuff isn't going to make him happier, it's going to make him look "improved" to a community of people who follow his movements on the internet.
would chris' reversion to his assigned gender at birth be an "improvement?" would full SRS be an "improvement?" are the answers to these questions rooted in your (our) belief in what would make chris happy, or what would make chris seem "normal" to you (us)?

these are rhetorical questions, by the way, i don't mean to derail the thread with chris-tran shitposts

like i said, i don't mean this to come off as accusatory or dismissive or whatever, this is just kind of the sense i get.
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The most I can ever see Chris "improving" is her settling into the role of your typical "hon" (middle-aged non-passing trans women). Most people will avoid them because they look like a half-assed drag queen (in conjunction with your typical Chris-style spergyness), but there's hope for her to find some kind of belonging and to function as something resembling a normal human being given the proper support network which Chris seems to have found, albeit with excessive hugboxing.

Assuming of course she gets off this blarms shit and moves on with their life. I mean Chris has made it this far in spite of everything so who the hell knows. Still wouldn't bet on it though.
 
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