Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Bush King]

I volunteer for a UK based mental health charity. 24/7 mental health crisis phone line, anonymous, confidential, non-judgemental etc etc. Been there for over a decade now, and while it has its frustrations I largely find it tremendously worthwhile and fulfilling. Although it's been rough recently, with the NHS going "eh fuckit we're busy" and offloading huge amounts of profoundly mentally unwell people. Still, I do my shifts, eat all the biscuits and pocket as many pens as I can.

Trannies are a problem. But this didn't become clear until about 7 years ago. Check it:

If a woman phones and asks to speak to a woman, you do your best to hand her across to a woman, since it's probably something she'd feel more comfortable sharing with a woman.
If a woman phones and asks to speak to a man, you do your best to hand her across to a man, since it's probably something she'd feel more comfortable sharing with a man.
If a man phones and asks to speak to a man, you do your best to hand him across to a man, since it's probably something he'd feel more comfortable sharing with a man.
If a man phones and asks to speak to a woman, you politely decline his request, since men are disgusting and 80% of the time they wanna jerk off while shouting sexual slurs.

So what do you do when a bigass man voiced man phones up, declares himself a woman, then asks to be speak to a woman?

At first the charity kinda went "Eh whatever we don't judge" and just said "You say you're a woman then you're a woman, here's a woman to talk to". Then about 7 years ago they introduced stat tracking to the phone system - confidential, but there's a little "what was this call roughly about?" checkbox thingy after each call now - and it immediately became clear that the vast majority of tranny calls are what we'd categorise as Misuse of Service. 78%, in fact. To be fair it's mostly "chatting" calls - they phone up and wanna yammer about clothes and hair and nails, but that's still time being taken away from other, needier callers. But also a significant percentage start out as seemingly okay calls and swiftly veer into heavily sexual, paraphiliac nonsense, frequently with coercive attempts to keep volunteers from ending the call. I know of at least three probationary volunteers who have left after having some tranny tear them up for shit paper because they didn't want to talk to them about panties or whatever, and a dozen or so more who've left because they're old school feminists and object to having to indulge male roleplay. So my tolerance was already pretty fuckin' low.

Then some fuckwit tried to sue because our stat tracking gender tickbox said "caller identifies as" rather than "caller is", and I went full on 1488 Stomp The Trannies.

This is ultimately my biggest problem with this movement of delusion. I've never called up or worked for these services, but I've heard a couple stories from friends and hangers-on about these groups. The male perverts have always been there I suppose, but it's massively picked up. Used to be only 65 year old blokes with their cock at full attention on the other end, but since the mid-2010s it's been younger cohorts too, more transitioners than cross-dressers. Most of the stories I'd heard pre-2014ish were about schizophrenics/bipolars/generally insane people calling up and fucking with the services. Calling up on Monday all normal and having a chat with their tea, then having an episode on Wednesday and ranting about the people on the other end being secret agents.

The difference is that the people receiving these calls understood the game. They were broken people and in many cases understood that what they were doing during an episode was wrong and that ultimately they didn't mean it. A lot of social workers or parents with children who are afflicted by these illnesses will tell you that these people are some of the most rewarding to deal with because when breakthroughs are made or when they come back to reality you can see how much of an improvement is made, even for just a few hours, based on the patience given to them. However, when these people go tits up and freak out the cops are called to restrain them, they are told to stop calling so long as they are making threats, and they ultimately get institutionalised for a few days if it is really serious. Troons have effectively subverted so many institutions and the culture of respect that people have so that not buying into their pseudo-exhibitionism and paraphilias and telling them to move along so a suicidal mother can talk is "evil".

When a schizoid calls up and says they're going to kill themselves and bomb the local gang stalker club you tell them to take their meds and call back later. When a troon calls up and audibly jerks off while talking about how children get their periods you must indulge their fantasies. It's disgusting. It's no different to people who go beyond sex in public places but actively want to be seen, those who want to involve strangers who do not consent into their sex acts.

 

[Egretmania]

I peaked when I started getting stalked and sexually harassed by a TiM. Before that I never really had given troons much thought, I generally thought it was a rare and harmless occurence given how I really hadn't encountered one before I had met my previous stalker. I also couldn't escape him at my job and he was very uncomfortable to be around and wouldn't shut up about his sexual adventures even after I had asked him to stop and went to HR and my boss about him. I got followed into the women's restroom on numerous occasions. I also had to see this person at my college campus and when I found his social media it was just chock full of the most disgusting skinwalker shit.

 

[Marcus Tullius Cicero]

Copied from the Tranny Sideshows on Social Media thread.

Seeing as this post is a bit long, I thought I'd spoiler it, if only so as not to clog the thread.

Spoiler

I think it started in college for me. The deciding factor was actually something going on in my personal life that made me stop and think about people who are non-binary and transsexual. Prior to this epiphany, I hadn't any strong opinions on them one way or the other. I believed transsexuals were entitled to whatever surgeries they thought were necessary to dispel their dysphoria, with non-binary people being something I never thought about too much. It was about the middle of my sophomore year when I began to question things and to associate more with a conservative mindset. I would have become more left-leaning if not for:

1) a burgeoning desire to return to church (which had been non-existent for about seven years, by that point);
2) a group of evangelists that would visit the campus every Tuesday or Thursday per week;
3) my pastor, whom I had gotten to know when I was still attending church (before the age of 13).

I'll spoiler the following section due to it containing descriptions which might not be especially appropriate.

Spoiler

There was also a man I knew in a Discord server. He would make it his hobby to post screenshots of Reddit posts or Twitter tweets concerning transsexuals—especially with regard to their surgeries and how often they seemed to be botched. I particularly remember one man describing how he would expel discharge that not only smelled of rotting meat, but also had an orange color to it. There was also a picture of what a pseudo-penis looked like, with the hair follicles still functioning (essentially the hair re-grew on it, even on what was supposed to be the head). I read these posts and saw these pictures (anything having to do with am-holes was something I avoided, where possible), and it clued me in to just how fucked-up these surgeries are and how deluded transsexuals can be. I think that my aversion to them wouldn't be as strong, if not for those screenshots.

A part of me almost wishes I'd saved them, if only so that I might be able to remind myself of what these people can be like. Thankfully there's KiwiFarms to help with that.

So, with this return to Christianity there came a new moral perspective on transsexuality and what it meant. I began to see it as a perversion of what God intended for mankind, as I don't see how He would actively want anyone to mutilate their bodies to achieve a false image of themselves. I regret, however, that I've not done enough to address transsexuality itself, and perhaps help some to avoid becoming like that. But I'm thankful the Lord took me out of the pit, so to speak, and kept me from becoming like that myself.

In short, it was a return to Christianity and an already-peaked man that helped me to understand transsexuality for what it is. I'm glad I never fell into the trap of believing them to be innocent victims worthy of whatever they needed to address their dysphoria, for what's available will only ruin their quality of life.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

So I got involved in a lot of trans communities for a while because I needed to see for myself what was going on. When I say "got involved," I wasn't participating actively, but more asking bait questions and observing what I could. I've never been accepting of transgenderism, it goes against my personal beliefs that you need to work with what you're given. You don't get to cut yourself up and still be considered a normal person.

Here's what I gathered:

1. It doesn't matter if your feelings are strong or weak. If you present with any form of feeling that can be described or defined as body dysmorphia or gender dysphoria, you will be told that you are trans.
2. If you try to offer other explanations for your feelings, you will be told you are trans.
3. If you bring up invasive procedures and hormone supplements, you will be told it's safe and actually a good idea and to get started
4. If you try to say that you are unsure, you will be told you are trans
5. They will always tell you that transitioning is never a bad thing, that the experience is beautiful and rosy and relieving.

It is a cult. It doesn't matter what you say or do because if you so much as lift the curtain up, you will get grabbed by the ankles and yanked under so fast. The trans movement takes advantage of youth with severe mental health issues - typically cluster B personality traits, which seem to be prolific in society today (blame single mother households). Cluster B traits can make it very difficult for an individual to secure their ego and identity so having a rigid set of rules to follow and a club to be in probably does actually help the symptoms of isolation and loneliness. I honestly don't doubt that transitioning assists in some form or another, even if just making the transitionee feel comfortable being a huge effeminate faggot.

The entire movement is loaded with emotions and no logic. When you present any fact or any observation, it's simply met with rage and disapproval. That isn't something I can get into. You can't have a normal, measured conversation with a troon about any trans-related topic because the perspective is so fragile as to be shattered in only a sentence.

So peak trans for me is realising that 99% of trannies aren't actually trannies but mentally unwell people that have either been taken advantage of, or are too unstable to be reasonable.

 

[Cryin RN]

Something Awful peaked me, back when LPs were kinda new. I was a BIG ol' nerd and I read a few screenshot LPs, one of which featured a game written by an alleged girl game developer. This sounded good to me because I was woke. So as the LP progressed, it hit a forced marriage rape scene. And the writing in the rape scene hit me immediately as "wrong". Essentially, it depicted a young woman's internal monologue as enjoying her rape by a much older man because at least she orgasmed. It was some of the most alien, not-how-women-are writing I had ever read, and I'd read a lot of fanfiction written by actual vagina-bearers. It really, really bothered me because I could tell from those few lines that whoever wrote it was completely fucking clueless about women to the point of failing theory of mind and it was also sex creepy in a way that women aren't.

So I looked up this girl game developer. I was a sweet summer child.

At this point I was woke as hell. So reading "trans lesbian" made the wheels turn. How could an alleged lesbian have such a broken a perspective on female characters? There's no planet on which a lesbo would write a straight rape scene as being empowering and fun for the victim unless it ends with the guy's dick ripped off. Normal men who cared about their craft wouldn't write something that clueless either. But this was a special "lesbian" who started life as a straight man and clearly his mindset hadn't changed at all. He wrote "didn't matter, had sex" as a serious reaction to one of the most traumatic physical assaults a woman could go through. And for woke little me, that was unforgivable.

I got peaked from 2 lines of dialogue that were so creepy and dumb it collapsed the whole sandcastle.

That was 10 years ago. Nobody ITT will be shocked that every game he's released since is about lesbians having lesbian sex.

 

[judge claude frollo]

I never "cared" for trannies, not hate or love-- but within the last few years, for me, I keep seeing women getting erased alarmingly fast. It's genuinely horrifying. They're being replaced by troons in every space, or just grouped together with them.

Mtf Troons get praise and acceptance with full-on facial hair, huge giantoid bodies, fetish-fueled skinwalking, surgeries, and deep masculine voices.

Real women have to deal with shame and embarrassment when they have any type of body hair or just have a unique looking body. Then, they have to deal with retarded beauty standards they feel they need to meet; like plastic surgeries, makeups, photoshops.

I want this to end. Women genuinely do not deserve this. They're getting erased by 50-year old agps who want to be little girls. We're letting this fucking happen.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Ftm Troons get praise and acceptance with full-on facial hair, huge giantoid bodies, fetish-fueled skinwalking, surgeries, and deep masculine voices.

I think you mean MtF.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

So I got involved in a lot of trans communities for a while because I needed to see for myself what was going on. When I say "got involved," I wasn't participating actively, but more asking bait questions and observing what I could. I've never been accepting of transgenderism, it goes against my personal beliefs that you need to work with what you're given. You don't get to cut yourself up and still be considered a normal person.

Here's what I gathered:

1. It doesn't matter if your feelings are strong or weak. If you present with any form of feeling that can be described or defined as body dysmorphia or gender dysphoria, you will be told that you are trans.
2. If you try to offer other explanations for your feelings, you will be told you are trans.
3. If you bring up invasive procedures and hormone supplements, you will be told it's safe and actually a good idea and to get started
4. If you try to say that you are unsure, you will be told you are trans
5. They will always tell you that transitioning is never a bad thing, that the experience is beautiful and rosy and relieving.

It is a cult. It doesn't matter what you say or do because if you so much as lift the curtain up, you will get grabbed by the ankles and yanked under so fast. The trans movement takes advantage of youth with severe mental health issues - typically cluster B personality traits, which seem to be prolific in society today (blame single mother households). Cluster B traits can make it very difficult for an individual to secure their ego and identity so having a rigid set of rules to follow and a club to be in probably does actually help the symptoms of isolation and loneliness. I honestly don't doubt that transitioning assists in some form or another, even if just making the transitionee feel comfortable being a huge effeminate faggot.

The entire movement is loaded with emotions and no logic. When you present any fact or any observation, it's simply met with rage and disapproval. That isn't something I can get into. You can't have a normal, measured conversation with a troon about any trans-related topic because the perspective is so fragile as to be shattered in only a sentence.

So peak trans for me is realising that 99% of trannies aren't actually trannies but mentally unwell people that have either been taken advantage of, or are too unstable to be reasonable.

Every discord and reddit ever is the same behaviour, people hyping each other up over the stupidest decisions and erasing any possible debate or argument against it. It could be troons, drugs, cryptos, autistic politisperging, weird degenerate sex shit, etc. Discussion is non.existent, is all hyping each other up, mindlessly. any argument against it only shows up in a silly meme to be dismissed without actually adressing it. "when my father tells me i got groomed easily because i am autistic,- eyerolling waifu.jpeg", yeah dude, great, that animeme from egg/irl sure put your love one in his place.

Social media is a mistake, the current state is that everyone gets gaslighted by the algorithms to stay on a feedback loop. Everything has cult mentality now.

 

[Bush King]

I never "cared" for trannies, not hate or love-- but within the last few years, for me, I keep seeing women getting erased alarmingly fast. It's genuinely horrifying. They're being replaced by troons in every space, or just grouped together with them.

Mtf Troons get praise and acceptance with full-on facial hair, huge giantoid bodies, fetish-fueled skinwalking, surgeries, and deep masculine voices.

Real women have to deal with shame and embarrassment when they have any type of body hair or just have a unique looking body. Then, they have to deal with retarded beauty standards they feel they need to meet; like plastic surgeries, makeups, photoshops.

I want this to end. Women genuinely do not deserve this. They're getting erased by 50-year old agps who want to be little girls. We're letting this fucking happen.

Go on any "lesbian" or "women" space on Reddit and it varies between 25% to 90% of posts being troons, and the mods are all either power-mod troons or are inactive. The most ironic is "TwoXChromosomes". A sub literally named after the fact that women have a separate genetic structure to men, and the troons took it over. I'm more surprised they're able to browse with the name hanging over every post without 41%ing but then a lot have probably convinced themselves they are XX and could grow a vagina by taking enough Estrogen to calcify their muscles or that sissy hypno porn will unlock the big vagina cummies. Unless it's a specifically female porn sub the trannies take over, and they only fail in the porn subs because men are jerking off to them and don't want to see ten-foot wide shoulders on their milf sockjob adult nursing pegging videos.

That latter part makes me laugh/sort of not give a shit about women losing their spaces. Ever since I even conceptualised that certain groups of people would desire separate spaces I've been told that male only spaces need to be abolished, and now that broken men have twisted it around onto women they have no way of fighting back. Men aren't bullshitting to each other that the deformed cock on /r/vagina is actually beautiful, they downvote and send some hate mail. I find it absolutely hilarious that the one safe space for women remaining in our society is one where they have to deal with men ogling them and treating them like pieces of meat.

 

[Conqueeftador]

I guess this is the best thread as any to post for the first time. Lurked for a long time but I might still sperg a bit so forgive me. I've had quite a few peak trans moments, but the first was around 10 years ago during a home installation for the computer shop I worked at back then. I didn't normally get sent on those for safety reasons, I'm a small female and most of our customers were neckbeards who the boss didn't trust not to creep on me, but the usual onsite guy was out that day and the customer was a woman so the boss sent me. So I showed up with her new desktop but Buffalo Bill answered the door. Straight up 6'2" man in a wig with foundation on his 5 o'clock shadow. Instant discomfort, but back then I was open-minded and progressive and actually felt kind of bad for my instant revulsion. He led me to his office which was his bedroom and was covered in wild west memorabilia, and the whole house was like 85 degrees inside and reeked of human piss. He just sat on the bed behind me and watched silently while stroking a cat as I crawled around under the desk unhooking the old system. I even tried to make conversation but only got one word answers and creepy stares. I'd never been so uncomfortable in my life. Even though he didn't actually DO anything to me, it was just an overwhelming feeling of wrongness.

I also dated an AGP about 5 years ago. I didn't know at first but when he told me he was trans, I still tried to be open-minded and progressive with his bra and panty wearing. I rationalized it as "well he's not really hurting anyone". But then he brought home a pink adult onesie. As in, an infant onesie sized for a grown man. Nope, done. This wasn't a woman trapped in a man's body, this was a sick pervert hiding behind a politically correct label. And of course he told all his friends we broke up cause I was a kink-shaming transphobe.

Then there's my best friend whose unemployed husband drained their bank account to pay for bras and hormones. He held her hostage as his "lesbian wife" for years by threatening to out her as a transphobe if she ever left. Lots of verbal, emotional, financial, and even physical abuse. Now he's posting his Willem-Dafoe-in-drag selfies all over social media getting love and support from their mutual friends who don't know the real story. Meanwhile my friend gets to comfort her traumatized kids(cause of fucking course he abused the kids too) and spend a fortune on legal fees.

Then there was the longtime male friend who came out as MtF and freaked out on me when I wouldn't indulge his fetish of pegging him while he wore a teddy. Then seeing the way JKR is treated for simply stating facts. Seeing forums for women & lesbians get taken over by TIMs. Men winning woman of the year. Men in womens prisons and DV shelters. Realizing my only options for my son's education are either homeschooling or taking the risk of losing him to TRA curriculum. I could go on. Honestly, I can't understand how there are still so many people who haven't peaked. I can't imagine that any sane person actually believes TWAW and there's nothing wrong with any of this.

What peaks me the most though is that I've been in abusive relationships in the past and TRAs use the same exact narcissist tactics: love-bombing, future-faking, gaslighting, threats, stonewalling, and relentless harassment when denied what they want. I'm sick of them wedging trans shit into every aspect of society and forcing the rest of us to take part in their fetishes. It's not even about equal rights anymore, it's about bulldozing the rights of everyone else and grooming kids into a cult. At best they're mentally ill people who need real treatment, not surgery and reinforcement of their delusions. At worst, they're rapists and pedophiles exploiting woke loopholes. I still support the LGB but the T needs to go.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Might as well tell the story again: around 2011-2014 I was a very active Tumblr user, wasn't coping well with school/life in general, so the site was very much a safe haven of sorts for me & many other teenage girls going through a similarly hard time. Pronouns in the bio were just starting to become a thing and it piqued my curiosity as to why someone would put "she/her" as opposed to simply "girl" there, and my searches led me to all this info on trans and non binary. Read the definition of non binary, thought that sounds like me! So suddenly I had an answer to all my woes.

But looking further into the whole ideology I noticed way too many contradictions, and realised that it's actually pretty sexist to imply that if you're female but don't do enough feminine things, that makes you somehow not a woman. So I dropped the NB identity and decided to simply be myself, no labels needed. The tendency of the gender cult to get offended at anything and everything (as there was plenty of crossover with anti-Gamergate, and I was on the side of GG as far as not wanting the fictional media I enjoyed to get political) put me off too, as my sense of humour is inherently quite spicy and often times dark. Not to mention I was a huge weeb at the time, saw "cultural appropriation" being discussed more and more and didn't understand why claiming to be a genderfluid wolfkin was okay but being white and using an anime character name as your online handle wasn't. So, hypocrisy. Then I found the "anti-SJW" content creators of the time, and through them, mostly from the criticism of the whole infinite genders thing, found people who talked about the issue of trans identity and were openly critical of it, like Jordan Peterson and Debra Soh.

These days, while I do think the gender critical feminists have a point when it comes to these creepy guys barging into women's spaces and that in general the whole thing is in opposition to what women have fought for historically, the crazy lesbian separatist side of it is off-putting as I am heterosexual and do enjoy the company of my male friends as well.

 

[Dude Snakes]

The uncanny valley effect seeing trannies in the wild has on ones brain.

They stand out like a sore thumb to me. Trangenderism is devianacy/mental illness that is pushed by the Satanic pedo Kazarians that run the world for their master Lucifer. One of his forms is Baphmet, its an intersex goat-headed creature. When a person chooses to go trans that are praising Satan. It makes sense why trannies are so prone to suicide, they are mentally and spiritually ill. This should not be celebrated/promoted especially not for children.

 

[FatDragonDaddy]

Ya know I've met plenty of nice trans people, but holy shit are the trans people I've encountered on the internet specifically just the nastiest people. Like actually mean, there's not even an attempt to be ironic. Just treat everyone like shit for no reason

This. All of this.

I got banned from r/trans because I sided with the mom of a mtf 20-something-year-old.

For context, the mom supported them. She just freaked our when she read some articles on hormone side effects. She was legit scared it might hurt them.

All the fuckers in the comments accused the mom of being a transphobe, and that they should get away from their family.

I said flat out said they're full of shit, that the mom is scared for her kid. I told the OP they should both go talk to a doc on this, and not rely on Internet articles and Reddit posters.

I got banned because I was not supportive enough.

Best part was when I pointed out I never said the mom was right. I just said I understood her freak out and they should go see a doctor verses in this stuff.

The Mod sent me a curt message that, "they didn't have time to explain this to a Karen" and "that their decision was final."

I fucking hate the online trans community.

 

[BipolarPon]

The fact trans "women" are allowed to compete women's sports and apparently saying it's unfair makes me a Terf.

 

[God of Nothing]

The moment they started chopping the tits and dicks off children.

I couldn't care less about who gets in what bathroom, but no one touches a child. The moment that happens, all bets are off. There is no point in continuing society or being civil or pretending that exists anymore if that's what you think should constitute it. Your life is free game as is mine, in minecraft.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

The most ironic is "TwoXChromosomes". A sub literally named after the fact that women have a separate genetic structure to men, and the troons took it over. I'm more surprised they're able to browse with the name hanging over every post without 41%ing but then a lot have probably convinced themselves they are XX and could grow a vagina by taking enough Estrogen to calcify their muscles or that sissy hypno porn will unlock the big vagina cummies.

Name me a single subreddit that isn't moderated by troons. I'm pretty sure even r/Conservative or r/Libertarian might have power tripping troons, but I can't verify it I gave up on Reddit, so I forgot the password of my account and you need to be in the subreddit to see who moderates it, I'm not even bothering to give Plebbit the time of day by creating another account, fuck them. Tho I will name you a few subreddits that I used to interact with which became troon hellholes.
r/DankMemes was never good, the content was always cringe to me, but now that they drank the tranny loon kool aid, the sub has basically devolved.
r/Drama has allowed trannies to take over the moderation team, either that or they were put there by the admins, this shit isn't new. (Don't know if still holds true for rdrama.net, but I'm still MATI over it and they can eat their bussies for all I care)
Hell people jokingly say "jannies are trannies" here, but it's a real fucking thing on this hellsite. It's like a South Park episode coming true.
I'm sure even Discord doesn't have a problem that big because atleast the mods aren't put on these pedestals by the damn furfag admins.

I got banned from r/trans because I sided with the mom of a mtf 20-something-year-old.

Fuck Reddit.

 

[Wormy]

Simultaneously when I learned about Yaniv and when crablegs-hair guy who reads to kids was found to have been a chester.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Name me a single subreddit that isn't moderated by troons.

I'm fairly confident that r/tumblrinaction and r/SocialJusticeinAction are troon-free on the mod side.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I wanted to buy some more compression socks for work.

Found some fun and reasonably-priced ones, some of them striped, and of course one checks the other items by the same seller. Maybe they have different designs or a package deal.

Spoiler: sock sock sock PENIS

Bam! Adult baby onesies and silicone breastforms and fake pregnancies.



I ain't no neoliberal but I support an eBay seller selling whatever they want; this was more funny than anything. Just kind of hope some other middle-aged ladies with achy feet and an eye for a bargain get handed a surprise lesson about AGPs.

The socks are good, too.

 

[jumboseafood]

When I learned what a Autogynphile was. Followed by noticeing the rampant weebooism and the invasion female spaces. Then I learned of the push to get lesbos too accept girlcock into their beds. Now I know it's a fetish